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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Fined for going 1km/h over the speed limit Reply #60 - Jan 1^st, 2014 at 3:52pm The police force management should be compelled to resign over this incident. Clearly officers are being pressed to increase revenue and maybe they are getting a bonus for incriminating innocent civilians. This is corruption!
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Reply #61 - Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:13pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 12:15am:

I was thinking more the uppercrust business owners son, doing the run from the wealth he had been taught was his birthright and the only thing that mattered was money. A Bhudda like transformation, involving skids in the Dandenongs.

OOOh! Sort of Slumdog Ex-Millionaire?

Must be a deep social allegory in there... ya gotta work out the 'spine' of the idea - what does it all hang on... and then work your scenes and characters into that.. gotta have conflict and gotta have a serious change in your characters...

Don't forget Hanging at Picnic Rock Cafe With The Boyz and stuff...

Does he meet a dream girl with a yob accent and a bogan taste in clothing and men with two kids with six dads,and find true love? Then she dies of a tequila overdose or something?

Saturday Night Greaser.. the only way out of this slumhole is finding something you're good at, like poncing around on the dance floor.. just drift away on the wings of music and dance... for a few hours... What is there in the Dandenongs that fits there?

(ah-hu, ah-huk.. we got tha Sat'dee Night car drags on th' ol' highway... young man can find himself in that)...

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Reply #62 - Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:29pm

muso wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 1:09am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:11pm:

Exactly.

People just don't seem to understand what the word "limit" means.

Hey Greg - They're only 95-100% sure that a given motorist is speeding. So the science isn't settled. It's just a theory.

And that's why they get their chance to argue their case in court.

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Sparky Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1338 Gender:	Re: Fined for going 1km/h over the speed limit Reply #63 - Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:33pm One of the reasons people speed is because the roads are so badly planned. Especially in Sydney where I live. Spend 2 hours to travel 40 kms and you don't get the most patient of drivers. You'll spend when you want to get home.
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Reply #64 - Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:29pm:

muso wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 1:09am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:11pm:

Exactly.

People just don't seem to understand what the word "limit" means.

Hey Greg - They're only 95-100% sure that a given motorist is speeding. So the science isn't settled. It's just a theory.

And that's why they get their chance to argue their case in court.

Even the police realised it was nothing more than grubby grab for cash and recinded the ticket, pity you're not as rational and intellegent as they are.

Low level speeding fines are nothing more than state government cash cows to fill government coffers and nothing at all to do with road safety, only a moron would try to argue different.

No doubt you'll give it a go, but.

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Reply #65 - Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:42pm

Sparky wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:33pm:

One of the reasons people speed is because the roads are so badly planned. Especially in Sydney where I live. Spend 2 hours to travel 40 kms and you don't get the most patient of drivers. You'll spend when you want to get home.

Yep, there are lots of reasons (excuses).

It's still against the law though.

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Reply #66 - Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:43pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 3:52pm:

The police force management should be compelled to resign over this incident. Clearly officers are being pressed to increase revenue and maybe they are getting a bonus for incriminating innocent civilians.

This is corruption!

The vilest form of corruption is the way the 'courts' allow, condone, support, promote and applaud just this sort of behaviour.

Why was it again that with every successful revolution the first to the wall are politicians, judges and police and abusive public servants and rich guys?

http://www.policeprep.com.au/

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Reply #67 - Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:42pm:

Sparky wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:33pm:

One of the reasons people speed is because the roads are so badly planned. Especially in Sydney where I live. Spend 2 hours to travel 40 kms and you don't get the most patient of drivers. You'll spend when you want to get home.

Yep, there are lots of reasons (excuses).

It's still against the law though.

I always had you pegged as a system loving conservative.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 144238 Gender:	Re: Fined for going 1km/h over the speed limit Reply #68 - Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:45pm BigOl64 wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:42pm: Low level speeding fines are nothing more than state government cash cows to fill government coffers and nothing at all to do with road safety ... Agreed. So, what do you have against government coffers being topped up by lawbreakers?
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Reply #69 - Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:46pm

Sparky wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:42pm:

Sparky wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:33pm:

One of the reasons people speed is because the roads are so badly planned. Especially in Sydney where I live. Spend 2 hours to travel 40 kms and you don't get the most patient of drivers. You'll spend when you want to get home.

Yep, there are lots of reasons (excuses).

It's still against the law though.

I always had you pegged as a system loving conservative.

I always had you pegged as a criminal.

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Reply #70 - Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 8:21pm:

Has anyone been fined for not breaking the law?

i.e. not exceeding the speed limit?

I was fined for doing 56 in a 60 zone. Officer claimed that I was driving in a school zone, even though he was 150 meters beyond the school zone where he pulled me over. His deposition was damning enough -- strong words for a speeding fine -- to warrant a cancellation of the fine. He didn't produce evidence of myself being caught speeding, he didn't show me the radar gun (minor point), he showed photographs of where he took the radar reading from (clearly showing the 60 sign in the distance), etc. I contacted the police station to confirm whether the police can take measurements for speeding outside the speed zone. They weren't interested in concerning themselves giving an answer.

The judge just took note of my admission to being the driver of the vehicle who received the fine -- found me guilty based on that. Increased my fine by $100, and made me pay added court costs. Just about doubled my fine for doing the speed limit.

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Reply #71 - Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:50pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 8:21pm:

Has anyone been fined for not breaking the law?

i.e. not exceeding the speed limit?

I was fined for doing 56 in a 60 zone. Officer claimed that I was driving in a school zone ...

In that case, you were fined for doing 56 in a 40 zone.

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Reply #72 - Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:45pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:42pm:

Low level speeding fines are nothing more than state government cash cows to fill government coffers and nothing at all to do with road safety ...

Agreed.

So, what do you have against government coffers being topped up by lawbreakers?

Only you would justify a government making laws for the sole purpose of stinging motorist to line their own pockets.

If they fined stupidity, you would be broke in a week.

BTW Im more than happy to break these stupid laws, the QLD government doesn't bother to provide enough tax collectors to bother us too much. Grin

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Reply #73 - Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:53pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:45pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:42pm:

Low level speeding fines are nothing more than state government cash cows to fill government coffers and nothing at all to do with road safety ...

Agreed.

So, what do you have against government coffers being topped up by lawbreakers?

Only you would justify a government making laws for the sole purpose of stinging motorist to line their own pockets.

Stinging motorists who break the law.

Why do you have such an affinity with criminals?

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Reply #74 - Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:53pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:45pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 4:42pm:

Low level speeding fines are nothing more than state government cash cows to fill government coffers and nothing at all to do with road safety ...

Agreed.

So, what do you have against government coffers being topped up by lawbreakers?

Only you would justify a government making laws for the sole purpose of stinging motorist to line their own pockets.

Stinging motorists who break the law.

Why do you have such an affinity with criminals?

Make enough laws and soon enough everyone will be a criminal. See, inttellegent people know the difference between just laws and unjust laws, you don't, but the rest of us do. This is why you thing everyong who does 1 k over the limit is a 'criminal'.

Just never pegged you for a goverment yes boy, but there you go.

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