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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 144070 Gender:	Re: Fined for going 1km/h over the speed limit Reply #30 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:20pm ian wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:17pm: I can guarantee everyone breaks the law in some way every single day. Yes, and if they get caught they have to face the consequences.
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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16963 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Fined for going 1km/h over the speed limit Reply #31 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:21pm ian wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:17pm: I can guarantee everyone breaks the law in some way every single day. Even all them people laid up in Hospital in traction?
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Re: Fined for going 1km/h over the speed limit
Reply #32 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:22pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:10pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:07pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:06pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 8:10pm:

A Townsville man has copped a $146 fine for driving 1km/h over the speed limit.

This is a reminder of WHY it is called a "LIMIT" - and not a "SERVING SUGGESTION"

Dont be so ridiculous.

Buzz can't help it - it's Buzz's default state of mind...

Buzz is an avowed supporter of a nanny state though.
They love to tell me how to behave and what they must do.

My parents noted on a recent visit to Australia how different it is now to when they lived there

"Don't do this, don't do that"
"You can't bet in-game"
"You can't park facing traffic"
"You MUST drive at 40 kmhr..."

Australia. Nanny state.
Thanks to the champagne socialists like our man in Daylesford here.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 144070 Gender:	Re: Fined for going 1km/h over the speed limit Reply #33 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:24pm Setanta wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:21pm: ian wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:17pm: I can guarantee everyone breaks the law in some way every single day. Even all them people laid up in Hospital in traction? They shouldn't have been speeding.
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Re: Fined for going 1km/h over the speed limit
Reply #34 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:24pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:21pm:

ian wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:17pm:

I can guarantee everyone breaks the law in some way every single day.

Even all them people laid up in Hospital in traction? Cry

They shouldn't have been speeding.

Sorry to be pedant, but his claim wasn't limited to speeding. Maybe they murdered a nurse with a kick of their cast.

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Reply #35 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:30pm

What peckerhead doesn't realise is once they start getting as trivial as this there is absolutely no one around that can't be fined for something, I heard that one person got fined for not having water in their window washer tank, imagine if Peckerhead had just gone through some muddy road works and used up all his water washing his windscreen and before he could get home and fill it up again the police pulled him over and fined him for having no water in his window washing tank, you could you just imagine the twat apologising to the officer on the side of the road and thanking him for the fine couldn't you Grin

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Re: Fined for going 1km/h over the speed limit
Reply #36 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:42pm

Setanta wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:10pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:06pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 8:10pm:

A Townsville man has copped a $146 fine for driving 1km/h over the speed limit.

This is a reminder of WHY it is called a "LIMIT" - and not a "SERVING SUGGESTION"

That's why I haven't had a speeding ticket in 30 years.. I drive everywhere at 40Kmh. I makes it much safer not to go anywhere near the limit, all the road ragers out there don't agree but I know it a limit and I stay away from it.

I'VE never had one EITHER
My FATHER'S had ONE - in nearly SEVENTY years of driving
But I have a BROTHER, that is ALWAYS running a fine line of demerit points - ALWAYS one point away from licence suspension

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Reply #37 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:45pm

You can share the load around on the demerit points or have overseas licence holders take the points - Australia cannot put points on a foreign designated driver.

I have had a total of 10 points unable to be put on my license by the state of Victoria because it wasn't Australian.

You just need to play the rulebook a little.

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Re: Fined for going 1km/h over the speed limit
Reply #38 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:57pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:22pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:10pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:07pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:06pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 8:10pm:

A Townsville man has copped a $146 fine for driving 1km/h over the speed limit.

This is a reminder of WHY it is called a "LIMIT" - and not a "SERVING SUGGESTION"

Dont be so ridiculous.

Buzz can't help it - it's Buzz's default state of mind...

Buzz is an avowed supporter of a nanny state though.
They love to tell me how to behave and what they must do.

Australia. Nanny state.
Thanks to the champagne socialists like our man in Daylesford here.

Having our LAW ENFORCEMENT authorities stopping people from
KILLING themselves
- or more importantly
KILLING OTHER AUSTRALIANS
- is hardly a question of being a "nanny state"

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Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Fined for going 1km/h over the speed limit Reply #39 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:58pm Fining a guy for travelling 1 km/hr over the speed limit is stopping people killing themselves is it? Yeah sure, of course it is Buzz.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 77137 Gender:	Re: Fined for going 1km/h over the speed limit Reply #40 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:07pm Mere revenue raising .... if he caught him with a radar you might have an argument, but to get him for 1km over based on what the cops speedo was saying? ridiculous ... the cop should be reprimanded for wasting everyones time.
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Re: Fined for going 1km/h over the speed limit
Reply #41 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:11pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:06pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 8:10pm:

A Townsville man has copped a $146 fine for driving 1km/h over the speed limit.

This is a reminder of WHY it is called a "LIMIT" - and not a "SERVING SUGGESTION"

Exactly.

People just don't seem to understand what the word "limit" means.

Yes they do. It all comes down to Central Limit Theorem.

First of all, it is the responsibility of all drivers to calibrate their speedometers.
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However from 1 July 2006, newly introduced models of a vehicle available on the market must comply with ADR 18/03. Also, from 1 July 2007 any newly manufactured vehicle (excluding mopeds) must comply with this rule.

This new rule requires that the speedo must not indicate a speed less than the vehicle’s true speed or a speed greater than the vehicle’s true speed by an amount more than 10 percent plus 4 km/h. Significantly, this change means that speedos must always read 'safe', meaning that the vehicle's true speed must not be higher than the speed indicated by the speedo.

That is, at a true vehicle speed of 100km/h the speedo must read between 100km/h and 114km/h. An alternative way to look at it is; at an indicated speed of 100km/h, the vehicle's true speed must be between 87.3 km/h and 100km/h.

Significantly, this change means that speedos must always read ‘safe’, meaning that they are not permitted to read lower than the actual speed of the vehicle.

This of course assumes that your seat is adjustd properly to allow a properly adjusted speedometer for parallax and that you have recalibrated the speedo if you have changed the type of tyres on your vehicle.

Interestingly enough, I find that my car overestimates the speed, which is why I rely on the GPS. The GPS shows the reading to the nearest 1 km/hr (which means that the standard error is +/- 2 km/hr. For a properly calibrated analog speedometer with the original tyres fitted (no wear), seat adjusted correctly etc, the standard error is typically double that.
http://www.racq.com.au/motoring/cars/car_advice/car_fact_sheets/speedo_accuracy

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Reply #42 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:20pm:

ian wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:17pm:

I can guarantee everyone breaks the law in some way every single day.

Yes, and if they get caught they have to face the consequences.

You would be the first to start bleating if you got fined for every minor transgression you made. No one is a perfect driver, the fact is that speed is an easy revenue raiser, fining motorists for other offences which are committed constantly isn't. And fining someone for driving on a freeway going a few k's over the limit doesn't make one iota of difference to the road toll or road safety in general. If it really was about road safety the radars would be random, suburban streets, etc., not placed where they pick up the greatest amount of motorists in the shortest time. and this idiot copper wasting everyones time for what he says is 1 k over the limit should be out doing his job where it really counts.

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Re: Fined for going 1km/h over the speed limit
Reply #43 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:33pm

ian wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:20pm:

ian wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:17pm:

I can guarantee everyone breaks the law in some way every single day.

Yes, and if they get caught they have to face the consequences.

You would be the first to start bleating if you got fined for every minor transgression you made. No one is a perfect driver, the fact is that speed is an easy revenue raiser, fining motorists for other offences which are committed constantly isn't. And fining someone for driving on a freeway going a few k's over the limit doesn't make one iota of difference to the road toll or road safety in general. If it really was about road safety the radars would be random, suburban streets, etc., not placed where they pick up the greatest amount of motorists in the shortest time. and this idiot copper wasting everyones time for what he says is 1 k over the limit should be out doing his job where it really counts.

Yep

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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: Fined for going 1km/h over the speed limit Reply #44 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:39pm Meanwhile Peckerhead is recuperating in intensive care after getting yet another belting while defending his idiocy on Ozpolitics ...
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