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Reply #15 - Dec 30th, 2013 at 10:26pm
 
You take sick leave when you are sick.
That's it.
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Reply #16 - Dec 30th, 2013 at 10:44pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 30th, 2013 at 10:26pm:
You take sick leave when you are sick.
That's it.


Not so simple.  When I transferred from uniformed defence to civilian defence I was given a pro-rata entitlement of 15 days a year.  Uniformed defence doesn't have a sick leave provision, if you are sick you have time off to get better, but on transfer they give you 5 days less than 20 days which was the public service entitlement.

The rules changed partway through in that they could not be taken as cash (for half of my entitlement) and that a doctors certificate was only required on more than three days absences.

Lot of long weekends in that last few years and I got the remainder as cash in hand and a tidy sum it was.

I expect grief from all quarters for doing so, but I don't give a poo, I would have been a mug to give away such an entitlement, and I aint no mug. 

Most people will work to improve their own situation.  As a general rule and in all situations, self interest will always win out.

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Reply #17 - Dec 30th, 2013 at 11:17pm
 
It should be that simple.

In the last 5 years working, I have taken off 2 days total.

In the United States the rules we have are that if you aren't well then you can stay at home but you are expected to be available and work from there.

The rule I worked to in Australia was that if members of my team were out for a 2nd day then we needed a doctors note.
The key though is to recruit right.

If someone in their past had a sick leave history or gap periods I never hired them.
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Reply #18 - Dec 31st, 2013 at 1:23am
 
Peter Freedman wrote on Dec 30th, 2013 at 8:03pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 30th, 2013 at 6:32pm:
You time and again prove why vermin like you are the enemy of our prosperity.  You know NOTHING about work or the concept of effort and reward.

IN my world you would be denied all welfare until you worked


What a charmer Longy is....


Too true. I wonder why he’s called "Long Weekend". I always thought it was a reference to sickies.

A weekend spent with Longy would be rather long, I guess. It would help if you were anaethetised first.
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Reply #19 - Dec 31st, 2013 at 5:57am
 
Public service 'pawns in Coalition industrial relations game'

    STEFANIE BALOGH
    The Australian
    December 31, 2013


Acting opposition employment and workplace relations spokesman Doug Cameron said sick leave was a workplace entitlement.

LABOR has accused the Coalition of treating public servants as pawns in a "wider industrial relations game" after the government warned federal public service chiefs to crack down on sick leave.      Sad

Eric Abetz, the Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service, has told the heads of agencies and departments to take "steps to reduce sick rates".

Acting opposition employment and workplace relations spokesman Doug Cameron yesterday said sick leave was a workplace entitlement and Senator Abetz's comments showed that he remained an "unreconstructed WorkChoices warrior".

"When the government is in trouble, as they are so early in their term of government, the first thing they are doing is attacking workers," he said.   Sad    

The latest State of Service report revealed the rate of unscheduled time off in the Australian public service, which includes sick, carer's and compensation leave, grew half a day last financial year compared with the previous 12 months.

The increase brought the average rate of unscheduled leave to 11.6 days per employee across the 167,000 workforce. Sick leave rates also increased, from 8.5 days to 8.6 days.

"I have found the public servants I deal with hard working, committed people," Senator Cameron said.

"There is huge pressure on the public service and to simply treat them as some pawn in a wider industrial relations game is unacceptable and just demonstrates WorkChoices is lingering under the radar at the moment with the government."      Shocked      Sad

The Abbott government went to the election with a policy to reduce the public service headcount by 12,000 over two years through natural attrition. The highest average number of sick days last financial year were at ComSuper, with 13 days; Human Services (11.8); and the Australian Research Council (11.6).
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Reply #20 - Dec 31st, 2013 at 6:03am
 
Imcrook, you should take sick days when you are genuinely sick.
That is the purpose of them.

And if you are away from work for a period of longer than few days it should be supported by a doctor certificate.

As employers we should only be paying sick leave to people who are genuinely sick.

I rarely took it.
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Reply #21 - Dec 31st, 2013 at 6:14am
 
"There is huge pressure on the public service and to simply treat them as some pawn in a wider industrial relations game is unacceptable and just demonstrates WorkChoices is lingering under the radar at the moment with the government."   We have been down that road before, not again please.   Shocked   Shocked   Shocked     
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Reply #22 - Dec 31st, 2013 at 6:50am
 
You'll always find that in places with big unions like the public service and the car manufacturing industry the absentee days are double to triple that of any other industry...

They do half to a third the work and get paid twice as much as what they are worth ...

Oh diddums... the stress.. better take a week off...  Cry

Fricken pussies need to get a job in the real world.. they wouldn't last a week...  Angry
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Reply #23 - Dec 31st, 2013 at 6:58am
 
Acting opposition employment and workplace relations spokesman Doug Cameron said sick leave was a workplace entitlement.      Wink
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Reply #24 - Dec 31st, 2013 at 7:04am
 
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Acting opposition employment and workplace relations spokesman Doug Cameron said sick leave was a workplace entitlement.      Wink


Its there for when you are sick... not for when U feel like a long weekend because you're a laze c#%!...

No matter... when your manufacturing industry shuts down to move overseas where people work hard because you're an over paid lazy turd who doesn't like turning up to work ... ill simply wave that industry goodbye ...

Especially if my taxes are subsidising it...

As for the public service ...,you'd want to thank your lucky stars I'm not PM
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Reply #25 - Dec 31st, 2013 at 7:11am
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 30th, 2013 at 9:26pm:
Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 30th, 2013 at 9:22pm:
Dnarever wrote on Dec 30th, 2013 at 9:19pm:
I just had 15 days off - that brings my average with this employer to two days per year.




Spend some time in the sanitorium did you? 


Shoulder re build - I was meant to have 6 weeks off but talked the Dr into 3 weeks.



ouch... shoulders HURT like nothing else.  I had two frozen shoulders years ago and it was not fun and yours would have been worse.  feeling better now?
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Reply #26 - Dec 31st, 2013 at 7:16am
 
True Blue... wrote on Dec 31st, 2013 at 7:04am:
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Acting opposition employment and workplace relations spokesman Doug Cameron said sick leave was a workplace entitlement.      Wink


Its there for when you are sick... not for when U feel like a long weekend because you're a laze c#%!...

No matter... when your manufacturing industry shuts down to move overseas where people work hard because you're an over paid lazy turd who doesn't like turning up to work ... ill simply wave that industry goodbye ...

Especially if my taxes are subsidising it...

As for the public service ...,you'd want to thank your lucky stars I'm not PM


might be worth noting that Labor was already in the process of getting rid of 20,000 PS staff and not a hint of a complaint from the resident dole bludger.
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