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Reply #90 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 4:41pm

muso wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 12:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 12:18pm:

muso wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 9:37am:

Weather is a short term phenomenon. Climate is long term, measuring change over at least 30 years.

And who gets to determine what's "short term" and "long term"? Humans.

Well it's actually aardvarks. Roll Eyes

Who other than humans would define a term?

Exactly. Now you're starting to see.

30 years out of 4.5 billion years is not "long term", by any stretch of the imagination. Agreed?

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Reply #91 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 5:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 4:41pm:

muso wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 12:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 12:18pm:

muso wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 9:37am:

Weather is a short term phenomenon. Climate is long term, measuring change over at least 30 years.

And who gets to determine what's "short term" and "long term"? Humans.

Well it's actually aardvarks. Roll Eyes

Who other than humans would define a term?

Exactly. Now you're starting to see.

30 years out of 4.5 billion years is not "long term", by any stretch of the imagination. Agreed?

Rates of change and clouds say what???

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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: More global warming hilarity LOL Reply #92 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 5:58pm Even the climate change loons must cringe at having death rides a donkey in their corner
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: More global warming hilarity LOL Reply #93 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 6:04pm Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 5:58pm: Even the climate change loons must cringe at having death rides a donkey in their corner Innocent don't like clouds
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Reply #94 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 7:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 4:41pm:

muso wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 12:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 12:18pm:

muso wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 9:37am:

Weather is a short term phenomenon. Climate is long term, measuring change over at least 30 years.

And who gets to determine what's "short term" and "long term"? Humans.

Well it's actually aardvarks. Roll Eyes

Who other than humans would define a term?

Exactly. Now you're starting to see.

30 years out of 4.5 billion years is not "long term", by any stretch of the imagination. Agreed?

The plot is over here,greggory. If you look hard enough, you'll find it.

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Reply #95 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 7:47pm

muso wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 1:00pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 11:56am:

muso wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 9:37am:

Soren, this may come as a surprise to you, but it's not unusual for ships to get caught in sea ice.

Please feel free to correct my perception of your argument, but from where I stand, it's not much of an argument at all.

It might be hot as hell right now, but there might be something in that Kool aid that you're drinking that severely affects your judgement. All you seem to have is an amazing collection of strawmen and totally wrong assumptions.

Not at all.

You couldn't make this up: Antarctic climate scientist, with all the models, science, equipment, data and technology and expertise at his disposal - gets stuck in the ice. Hilarious and a massive credibility killer.

Pray tell me how a climate model that shows a temperature increase of 0.4 degrees per decade could possibly help in out in such a circumstance?

It's a little bit like using this map to navigate the London Underground.
http://www.3dmodelfree.com/imguploads/Image/1106/model/2012/10/12271.jpg

Har har har. He's got a map that covers the whole world but gets lost in the London Underground.

If one is a supposed expert on the London underground (Antarctic climate) and takes a school globe as a guide when re-tracing someone's route (Mawson's) in the London underground (Antarctica) after a hundred years and he gets lost (trapped in ice) - it just hows how idiotic and unknowing said 'expert' is.

Hilarious.

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Reply #96 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 7:50pm

muso wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 7:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 4:41pm:

muso wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 12:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 12:18pm:

muso wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 9:37am:

Weather is a short term phenomenon. Climate is long term, measuring change over at least 30 years.

And who gets to determine what's "short term" and "long term"? Humans.

Well it's actually aardvarks. Roll Eyes

Who other than humans would define a term?

Exactly. Now you're starting to see.

30 years out of 4.5 billion years is not "long term", by any stretch of the imagination. Agreed?

The plot is over here,greggory. If you look hard enough, you'll find it.

Avoiding the question, as usual.

30 years out of 4.5 billion years is not "long term", by any stretch of the imagination. Agreed?

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: More global warming hilarity LOL Reply #97 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 8:35pm Clouds say what?????
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: More global warming hilarity LOL Reply #98 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 8:37pm Comparing the Earth in the Cainozoic with the Earth during the Paleozoic era is hardly relevent. It was like an entirely different planet. As I implied, you have seriously lost the plot.
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Reply #99 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 8:37pm

muso wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 8:37pm:

Comparing the Earth in the Holocene with the Earth during the Cambrian is hardly relevent. It was like an entirely different planet.

As I implied, you have seriously lost the plot.

Avoiding the question, as usual.

30 years out of 4.5 billion years is not "long term", by any stretch of the imagination. Agreed?

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: More global warming hilarity LOL Reply #100 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 8:43pm It's all about the common use of the term "long term" in any given context. Google "long term benefits". Are you saying that if I exercise, it will take 4.5 billion years to see any long term benefits?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156214 Gender:	Re: More global warming hilarity LOL Reply #101 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 8:45pm muso wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 8:43pm: It's all about the common use of the term "long term" in any given context. The context here is planet earth. 4.5 billion years old. 30 years out of 4.5 billion years is not "long term", by any stretch of the imagination. Agreed?
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Reply #102 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 8:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 8:45pm:

muso wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 8:43pm:

It's all about the common use of the term "long term" in any given context.

The context here is planet earth.

4.5 billion years old.

30 years out of 4.5 billion years is not "long term", by any stretch of the imagination. Agreed?

Clouds say what?????

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Reply #103 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 8:54pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 8:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 8:45pm:

muso wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 8:43pm:

It's all about the common use of the term "long term" in any given context.

The context here is planet earth.

4.5 billion years old.

30 years out of 4.5 billion years is not "long term", by any stretch of the imagination. Agreed?

Clouds say what?????

Clouds don't talk (lay off the drugs).

30 years out of 4.5 billion years is not "long term", by any stretch of the imagination. Agreed?

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Reply #104 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 9:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 8:45pm:

muso wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 8:43pm:

It's all about the common use of the term "long term" in any given context.

The context here is planet earth.

4.5 billion years old.

30 years out of 4.5 billion years is not "long term", by any stretch of the imagination. Agreed?

If that's your context, then it's a totally irrelevent context. The changing climate of Australia for example doesn't have a 4.5 billion year context.

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