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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: ENOUGH Reply #45 - Dec 29^th, 2013 at 10:19am Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 8:47am: Time for a very large proportion of our populace to get some tough love & re-prioritize their spending. We'll remember this one when the LIBs have to cut budget spending sue to Labor wastes
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Reply #46 - Dec 29^th, 2013 at 10:40am

skippy. wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 9:37am:

Grendel wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 9:17am:

Grendel wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 9:12am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 8:50am:

Pricing carbon has sent us all to the poor house so Im sure those figures cant be true Cheesy

So true Crowbait.... I haven't been able to buy anything decent for over 3 years now... too busy saving up to pay utility bills.

There you go Skippy ya moron... that's what I actually said... get an adult to read it for you if you are still having problems.
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You dense Progs need to stop misquoting everything I say.

Yes , you said you couldn't afford anything as you were saving up for three years to pay a utility bill, did you lie??? Yes or no will do. No need for your abuse you don't want to get banned AGAIN do you? Grin

Obviously your are a moron on the intelligence scale or English is not your first language. Cheesy

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Reply #47 - Dec 29^th, 2013 at 12:42pm

Time for a very large proportion of our populace to get some tough love & re-prioritize their spending.

Watching the news report on the boxing day sales, my attention was caught by a couple of 20-somethings gleefully telling the reporter that they were there to max their cards out and would probably spend around $3000 on clothes & makeup.

My first thought was - geez girls, have a thought about next year.
My next thought was - go for it darlings, whatever you spend it on I'll probably make a few bucks from it on the stockmarket.

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Reply #48 - Dec 29^th, 2013 at 1:14pm

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 12:42pm:

Time for a very large proportion of our populace to get some tough love & re-prioritize their spending.

Watching the news report on the boxing day sales, my attention was caught by a couple of 20-somethings gleefully telling the reporter that they were there to max their cards out and would probably spend around $3000 on clothes & makeup.

My first thought was - geez girls, have a thought about next year.
My next thought was - go for it darlings, whatever you spend it on I'll probably make a few bucks from it on the stockmarket.

If most people can piss away $3000 on frivolous stuff like this, it's difficult to defend the proposition that Australians cannot afford an increase to taxes to get the budget back in balance.

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Reply #49 - Dec 29^th, 2013 at 2:24pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 8:47am:

So over this festive season I've read report Australians have spent 29.6 Billion $$$ on gifts

http://finance.ninemsn.com.au/newsbusiness/aap/8760421/australia-to-spend-29-6-b...

Another 1.9 billion $$$ on boxing day sales

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/news/boxing-day-sales-set-to-hit-an-a...

And although I cannot find a link have heard we also spent 11 billion $$$ on Christmas Food

Totaling 42.5 Billion $$$

That's $1847.82 for each of our 23 million citizens.

So in 2014 I don't want to read here or in any newspaper, hear any mealy mouthed pollie cry that Australians are struggling with the cost of living, cannot afford a few measly $$ to fund the NDIS or that the Carbon Tax is forcing the large majority to freeze in Winter, that families need the compensation to remain if the tax is repealed.

BECAUSE FRANKLY IT'S BULLSH!T Angry

It's obviously not how much Australians bring home but what they choose to spend it on.

Time for a very large proportion of our populace to get some tough love & re-prioritize their spending.

you presume the figures are true... family of 6 having spent nearlt $12,000???? not only do I not believe it, I find it near impossible. When my kids were young and I was earning triple the annual wage I spent lavishly on Christmas and yet never went anywhere near that amount so what does the average income earner spend?

this feels like an estimate based on a guess which is extrapolated from a few sotres in Toorak and the north shore.

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Reply #50 - Dec 29^th, 2013 at 2:26pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 9:39am:

... wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 9:28am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 8:47am:

So over this festive season I've read report Australians have spent 29.6 Billion $$$ on gifts

http://finance.ninemsn.com.au/newsbusiness/aap/8760421/australia-to-spend-29-6-b...

Another 1.9 billion $$$ on boxing day sales

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/news/boxing-day-sales-set-to-hit-an-a...

And although I cannot find a link have heard we also spent 11 billion $$$ on Christmas Food

Totaling 42.5 Billion $$$

That's $1847.82 for each of our 23 million citizens.

So in 2014 I don't want to read here or in any newspaper, hear any mealy mouthed pollie cry that Australians are struggling with the cost of living, cannot afford a few measly $$ to fund the NDIS or that the Carbon Tax is forcing the large majority to freeze in Winter, that families need the compensation to remain if the tax is repealed.

BECAUSE FRANKLY IT'S BULLSH!T Angry

It's obviously not how much Australians bring home but what they choose to spend it on.

Time for a very large proportion of our populace to get some tough love & re-prioritize their spending.

Not everyone can afford a ps4 and 60 inch TV for christmas. Those that can drag these averages up.

You don't see me crying poor either.

Oh & not that it's any of your business but the 60 inch telly took me 2 years to save for.

about 10 years ago I paid $5000 for a big screen TV which the nearest equivalent now can be had for $600... and its hi-def.

all it all... don't invest in tech

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #51 - Dec 29^th, 2013 at 2:29pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 10:07am:

... wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 9:43am:

Not crying poor, but you're assuming everyone is in the same boat as you.

Not at all

In fact I'm here more often than not arguing for those at the bottom to be given a fair go.

However most of our liberal posters seem to think a family on 200K need assistance with Private health, Child care etc.

As I said to LW a couple of days ago 80K for a single & 150K for a couple should be the cut off point for ALL government assistance.

That way we ALL end up paying less tax & the tax that we do pay will be used the way it was intended

... wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 9:41am:

Also, how the bugger do they calculate 11 billion on "christmas food".

Like I said I heard it on an AM interview & cannot find references.

How they calculate it would be to look at the food spend in say Aug then the food spend in Dec Minus Aug from Dec

well that's my layman's idea.

I don't have a problem with that as long as the largesse for everyone else is severely curtailed as well. cut welfare dramatically, period. then cut income taxes etc in response and watch the economy take a rise as spending increases on the back of extra income.

I raised 4 kids on the back of next to no govt welfare and they didn't suffer.

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Reply #52 - Dec 29^th, 2013 at 2:31pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 2:29pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 10:07am:

... wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 9:43am:

Not crying poor, but you're assuming everyone is in the same boat as you.

Not at all

In fact I'm here more often than not arguing for those at the bottom to be given a fair go.

However most of our liberal posters seem to think a family on 200K need assistance with Private health, Child care etc.

As I said to LW a couple of days ago 80K for a single & 150K for a couple should be the cut off point for ALL government assistance.

That way we ALL end up paying less tax & the tax that we do pay will be used the way it was intended

... wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 9:41am:

Also, how the bugger do they calculate 11 billion on "christmas food".

Like I said I heard it on an AM interview & cannot find references.

How they calculate it would be to look at the food spend in say Aug then the food spend in Dec Minus Aug from Dec

well that's my layman's idea.

I don't have a problem with that as long as the largesse for everyone else is severely curtailed as well. cut welfare dramatically, period. then cut income taxes etc in response and watch the economy take a rise as spending increases on the back of extra income.

I raised 4 kids on the back of next to no govt welfare and they didn't suffer.

There's a difference between wealthfare and welfare. Remove all wealth fare. Then start to cut taxes from bottom up when circumstances allow it.

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Reply #53 - Dec 29^th, 2013 at 2:59pm

Grendel wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 10:40am:

skippy. wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 9:37am:

Grendel wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 9:17am:

Grendel wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 9:12am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 8:50am:

Pricing carbon has sent us all to the poor house so Im sure those figures cant be true Cheesy

So true Crowbait.... I haven't been able to buy anything decent for over 3 years now... too busy saving up to pay utility bills.

There you go Skippy ya moron... that's what I actually said... get an adult to read it for you if you are still having problems.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gcA0ZuKGkI8/S0iXdwgPDLI/AAAAAAAAFdw/CYJYbsVycq4/s400/h...
You dense Progs need to stop misquoting everything I say.

Yes , you said you couldn't afford anything as you were saving up for three years to pay a utility bill, did you lie??? Yes or no will do. No need for your abuse you don't want to get banned AGAIN do you? Grin

Obviously your are a moron on the intelligence scale or English is not your first language. Cheesy

LOL boofys usual tactic, resort to abuse when found out to be a liar. Grin

it must suck to be such a failure that you continually resort to lies.

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Reply #54 - Dec 29^th, 2013 at 7:08pm

skippy. wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 2:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 10:40am:

skippy. wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 9:37am:

Grendel wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 9:17am:

Grendel wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 9:12am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 8:50am:

Pricing carbon has sent us all to the poor house so Im sure those figures cant be true Cheesy

So true Crowbait.... I haven't been able to buy anything decent for over 3 years now... too busy saving up to pay utility bills.

There you go Skippy ya moron... that's what I actually said... get an adult to read it for you if you are still having problems.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gcA0ZuKGkI8/S0iXdwgPDLI/AAAAAAAAFdw/CYJYbsVycq4/s400/h...
You dense Progs need to stop misquoting everything I say.

Yes , you said you couldn't afford anything as you were saving up for three years to pay a utility bill, did you lie??? Yes or no will do. No need for your abuse you don't want to get banned AGAIN do you? Grin

Obviously your are a moron on the intelligence scale or English is not your first language. Cheesy

LOL boofys usual tactic, resort to abuse when found out to be a liar. Grin

it must suck to be such a failure that you continually resort to lies.

Abuse?
This from one of the most abusive foulest mouths I've known on the Net
Come on Skippy just stop telling all those lies anyone who can read knows now you are a liar or an idiot or both...
I never said what you claimed again and again what I said... just do us all a favour and admit it for once and then we won't need to keep correcting you. Roll Eyes

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Reply #55 - Dec 29^th, 2013 at 7:55pm

Grendel wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 7:08pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 2:59pm:

Grendel wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 10:40am:

skippy. wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 9:37am:

Grendel wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 9:17am:

Grendel wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 9:12am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 8:50am:

Pricing carbon has sent us all to the poor house so Im sure those figures cant be true Cheesy

So true Crowbait.... I haven't been able to buy anything decent for over 3 years now... too busy saving up to pay utility bills.

There you go Skippy ya moron... that's what I actually said... get an adult to read it for you if you are still having problems.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gcA0ZuKGkI8/S0iXdwgPDLI/AAAAAAAAFdw/CYJYbsVycq4/s400/h...
You dense Progs need to stop misquoting everything I say.

Yes , you said you couldn't afford anything as you were saving up for three years to pay a utility bill, did you lie??? Yes or no will do. No need for your abuse you don't want to get banned AGAIN do you? Grin

Obviously your are a moron on the intelligence scale or English is not your first language. Cheesy

LOL boofys usual tactic, resort to abuse when found out to be a liar. Grin

it must suck to be such a failure that you continually resort to lies.

Abuse?
This from one of the most abusive foulest mouths I've known on the Net
Come on Skippy just stop telling all those lies anyone who can read knows now you are a liar or an idiot or both...
I never said what you claimed again and again what I said... just do us all a favour and admit it for once and then we won't need to keep correcting you. Roll Eyes

Yes you said you couldn't buy other items as you needed to save for three years to pay a utility bill, it's all there for everyone to read. You're a liar of course but we all knew that already. That's why we all laugh at you and them laugh more when you resort to abuse and get banned, as you do over and over. Grin

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Reply #56 - Dec 29^th, 2013 at 8:20pm

If Skippy has it wrong, exactly what did Grendel mean to tell us by this.

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I haven't been able to buy anything decent for over 3 years now... too busy saving up to pay utility bills.

Is his real intent nothing more politically petty than to bag the ALP for his having to scrimp......to save to pay for gas/water/electricy even though he wants us to believe he was an IT/www guru for 30 years, and there would be none of them who would have to do said scrimping.

??

Huh

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Datalife Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2405 Gender:	Re: ENOUGH Reply #57 - Dec 29^th, 2013 at 8:32pm Aussie wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 8:20pm: ...even though he wants us to believe he was an IT/www guru for 30 years, and there would be none of them who would have to do said scrimping. ?? Bit like blokes who reckon they were successful solicitors and now drive a taxi?
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Reply #58 - Dec 29^th, 2013 at 8:34pm

Datalife wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 8:32pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 8:20pm:

...even though he wants us to believe he was an IT/www guru for 30 years, and there would be none of them who would have to do said scrimping.

??

Huh

Bit like blokes who reckon they were successful solicitors and now drive a taxi?

Yeah, but in my case ~ retired ~ I own the plates. Wanna buy one?

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Reply #59 - Dec 29^th, 2013 at 9:35pm

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Grendel wrote on Dec 28^th, 2013 at 8:50am:

Pricing carbon has sent us all to the poor house so Im sure those figures cant be true Cheesy

So true Crowbait.... I haven't been able to buy anything decent for over 3 years now... too busy saving up to pay utility bills.

That's right Skippy....
I haven't been able to buy anything decent for 3 years because after saving up to pay all my utility bills there is nothing left over for something decent.... not what you've been saying right Scribbler..? Cheesy

You said It took me 3 years to save up to pay a utility bill. NOT THE SAME THING AT ALL YA LYING MORON!
For goodness sake... I do get sick of correcting your idiocy and lies. Roll Eyes

Oh and Aussie you idiot... I was replying to Crowbait, get an adult to explain what it means if necessary... obviously it will be Roll Eyes

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