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Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude
Reply #15 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 10:51am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 10:49am:
I'll take that as a comment sparky
I just find it funny that you are always defending a religion that is involved in mostly all problems around the world at the moment.
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Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude
Reply #16 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 12:02pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 10:43am:
freediver wrote on Jan 12th, 2014 at 10:08am:
The fact is, Muhammed specifically permitted wife beating and never lay[sic] down any limitations on how far you can go


This is false, and you should know it to be so.



It was Allah the most merciful of those who show mercy who made wife beating halal.

www.quran.com/4/34
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Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude
Reply #17 - Jan 13th, 2014 at 12:02pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 10:43am:
freediver wrote on Jan 12th, 2014 at 10:08am:
The fact is, Muhammed specifically permitted wife beating and never lay[sic] down any limitations on how far you can go


This is false, and you should know it to be so.

The limitations have been discussed and you have even mocked those limitations. So please don't go claiming no such limitations exist.


You'll have to remind me.
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Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude
Reply #18 - Jan 26th, 2014 at 2:10am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 13th, 2014 at 10:43am:
freediver wrote on Jan 12th, 2014 at 10:08am:
The fact is, Muhammed specifically permitted wife beating and never lay[sic] down any limitations on how far you can go


This is false, and you should know it to be so.

The limitations have been discussed and you have even mocked those limitations. So please don't go claiming no such limitations exist.


I have yet to run across a male follower of Muhammad who can find his way to argue against anything other than the extent of the physical punishment of a wife beating.

The fact is that the physical pain of the beating is rendered moot, compared to the psychological impact of the slavery - the "masters and maids" relationship - that is imposed between Muslim men and their wives.
http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1465wmv&ak=null

Like when Muslim men are unable to see any inequity between a Muslim husband being able to divorce his wife by text message in Malaysia for example.....
https://www.google.com/#q=malaysia+divorce+text+message
.....and what women know that they may well face, for expressing a desire to divorce their husbands, even in New York:
https://www.google.com/#q=mo+hassan+beheads+wife+divorce

Like when Muhammad's male followers can't see anything wrong with a 53 year old man violating a 9-year old child. But then of course they can't, because their own "messenger" did.

Narrated 'aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).  (Book #62, Hadith #64)

Not only his sex slave, but doubling as his washerwoman too!

Sahih Bukhari volume 1, book 4, number 231: Narrated Sulaiman bin Aasar: I asked 'Aisha about the clothes soiled with semen. She replied, "i used to wash it off the clothes of Allah's apostle and he would go for the prayer while water spots were still visible. "

Like when Muslim men can't understand why their wife may not be in the mood sometimes:

Sahih Muslim, Book 8: Number 3368: Abu Huraira (Allah he pleased with him) reported Allah's Messenger (may, peace be upon him) as saying: When a man invites his wife to his bed and she does not come, and he (the husband) spends the night being angry with her, the angels curse her until morning.

Like when Muslim men assign stupidity to women as an inherent trait:

Tabari I:280 "Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of the world menstruate and are stupid."

Like when Muslim men cannot see any inequity in a woman's testimony only being worth half that of a man's in court:

Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."

Like when Muslim men can't see anything wrong with female genital mutilation:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/women_in_islam.htm#female_genital_mutilation

Just as was prophesied in scripture:

Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. 38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not...

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_and_women.htm

As an aside, ironically, Mo Hassan who beheaded his wife in New York for filing for a divorce (and described doing so as having brought him great relief) was the founder of "Bridges TV", that he set up to offer a whitewashed dissimulated version of Islam to gullible Americans, to dupe the ignorant that insist on self-imposed abject ignorance to Islam, into being advocates - dhimmi dupes for Islam in the U.S. - as they've already accomplished in so many of the brainwashed anti-Zionist numbskulls on college campuses.
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Re: 1400 Years of Islamic Slavery and Dhimmitude
Reply #19 - Feb 21st, 2014 at 12:38am
 
Came across this today:

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Slavery#Historical

"A comparison of the Islamic slave trade to the American slave trade reveals some interesting contrasts. While two out of every three slaves shipped across the Atlantic were men, the proportions were reversed in the Islamic slave trade. Two women for every man were enslaved by the Muslims.

While the mortality rate for slaves being transported across the Atlantic was as high as 10%, the percentage of slaves dying in transit in the Trans Sahara and East African slave trade was between 80 and 90%!

While almost all the slaves shipped across the Atlantic were for agricultural work, most of the slaves destined for the Muslim Middle East were for sexual exploitation as concubines, in harems, and for military service.

While many children were born to slaves in the Americas, and millions of their descendants are citizens in Brazil and the USA to this day, very few descendants of the slaves that ended up in the Middle East survive.

While most slaves who went to the Americas could marry and have families, most of the male slaves destined for the Middle East were castrated, and most of the children born to the women were killed at birth.

It is estimated that possibly as many as 11 million Africans were transported across the Atlantic (95% of which went to South and Central America, mainly to Portuguese, Spanish and French possessions. Only 5% of the slaves went to the United States).

However, at least 28 million Africans were enslaved in the Muslim Middle East. As at least 80% of those captured by Muslim slave traders were calculated to have died before reaching the slave markets, it is believed that the death toll from the 14 centuries of Muslim slave raids into Africa could have been over 112 million. When added to the number of those sold in the slave markets, the total number of African victims of the Trans Saharan and East African slave trade could be significantly higher than 140 million people."
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