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Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #60 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:03pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:54pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:51pm:

what's this 'our system' white man???

An Afrikaner pom who spent a few minutes of his life in Australia when he was born and claims: "OUR COUNTRY".

Please do me a favour. Until you return to LIVE here (which i sincerely hope you don't) - please don't refer to Australia as "OUR COUNTRY".

My friend it is my country.
I was born in Australia and i have lived and paid into the country on and off since then.

Now don't make this personal. I have given why i think non Australian born people shouldn't be allowed a vote on this issue without any personal slant.
If i weren't born in Australia i should not get a vote either.

you have chosen not to live here and use 'australian' for convenience.

I have more faith in the people that came here, and stayed here BY CHOICE!

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Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #61 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:04pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:54pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:51pm:

what's this 'our system' white man???

An Afrikaner pom who spent a few minutes of his life in Australia when he was born and claims: "OUR COUNTRY".

Please do me a favour. Until you return to LIVE here (which i sincerely hope you don't) - please don't refer to Australia as "OUR COUNTRY".

My friend it is my country.
I was born in Australia and i have lived and paid into the country on and off since then.

Now don't make this personal. I have given why i think non Australian born people shouldn't be allowed a vote on this issue without any personal slant.
If i weren't born in Australia i should not get a vote either.

Phucked if I can understand why an Australian Citizen no matter where or when they were born should not have the same say on the matter as every other Australian Citizen no matter where or when they were born.

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Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #62 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:04pm

viewpoint wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:02pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:55pm:

viewpoint wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:51pm:

I strongly suspect the Queen would welcome the chance to forget about this place and the wankers who whinge on about a republic. Australia's loss, remove the Crown off everything, remove the flag and replace it with whatever you like, but make sure you ask the men and women who serve, and the men and women who have served. Chisel out all reference to the Crown on the memorials to the brave men and women who have given their lives under that flag.

Go for it Australia.........loose what connection you have to a place of great significance. Remove it from your history books, remove it from your history lessons........

Her Majesty will be devastated....... Roll Eyes

Oh yes, ya need to forget the Ashes as well, maybe Indonesia and China can replace that tournament with something else?

what a wanker - who wants to change history books..... get a life!!!!

That's something you and the other whiners should think about. Concentrate on improving life here instead of pandering to your own sense of inadequacy, and trying to change something which has worked for a long time.

WANKER - who wants to change history books?

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Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #63 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:05pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:01pm:

I hate to tell you but Australia isnt Asian.

Also aligning with a continent reknown for brutal human rights oppression and sickening laws on treatment of humans and animals in appalling conditions is not exactly something i wish Australia to do.

I hope youre proud of the disgusting meek attitude towards China displayed by our leaders in this "Asian" century?

Every country has it's human rights violations and I would love nothing more than for my leaders to take a stand against human rights violations.

They can begin by standing up for west Papuans against the Indonesians. Then they can by all means go up against China's record. But in doing so id hope they also disassociate themselves immediately from the crown.

Unfortunately none of that will happen given in actual fact because of people with your "money means everything" mindset.

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Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #64 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:06pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:04pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:54pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:51pm:

what's this 'our system' white man???

An Afrikaner pom who spent a few minutes of his life in Australia when he was born and claims: "OUR COUNTRY".

Please do me a favour. Until you return to LIVE here (which i sincerely hope you don't) - please don't refer to Australia as "OUR COUNTRY".

My friend it is my country.
I was born in Australia and i have lived and paid into the country on and off since then.

Now don't make this personal. I have given why i think non Australian born people shouldn't be allowed a vote on this issue without any personal slant.
If i weren't born in Australia i should not get a vote either.

Phucked if I can understand why an Australian Citizen no matter where or when they were born should not have the same say on the matter as every other Australian Citizen no matter where or when they were born.

Andre just likes to class people, another great "tradition" of the crown. It makes him feel a little better. It's okay, let him have his fun.

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Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #65 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:06pm

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:54pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:51pm:

what's this 'our system' white man???

An Afrikaner pom who spent a few minutes of his life in Australia when he was born and claims: "OUR COUNTRY".

Please do me a favour. Until you return to LIVE here (which i sincerely hope you don't) - please don't refer to Australia as "OUR COUNTRY".

My friend it is my country.
I was born in Australia and i have lived and paid into the country on and off since then.

Now don't make this personal. I have given why i think non Australian born people shouldn't be allowed a vote on this issue without any personal slant.
If i weren't born in Australia i should not get a vote either.

you have chosen not to live here and use 'australian' for convenience.

I have more faith in the people that came here, and stayed here BY CHOICE!

I have CHOSEN to accept a role in Europe that helps my career path.

Now again, see my point about why non Australian born folk should not get a vote and stop making issues personal because for me they arent.

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Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #66 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:08pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:05pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:01pm:

I hate to tell you but Australia isnt Asian.

Also aligning with a continent reknown for brutal human rights oppression and sickening laws on treatment of humans and animals in appalling conditions is not exactly something i wish Australia to do.

I hope youre proud of the disgusting meek attitude towards China displayed by our leaders in this "Asian" century?

Every country has it's human rights violations and I would love nothing more than for my leaders to take a stand against human rights violations.

They can begin by standing up for west Papuans against the Indonesians. Then they can by all means go up against China's record. But in doing so id hope they also disassociate themselves immediately from the crown.

Unfortunately none of that will happen given in actual fact because of people with your "money means everything" mindset.

afterall, look how long it took sth africa to change their ways.

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Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #67 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:09pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:04pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:54pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:51pm:

what's this 'our system' white man???

An Afrikaner pom who spent a few minutes of his life in Australia when he was born and claims: "OUR COUNTRY".

Please do me a favour. Until you return to LIVE here (which i sincerely hope you don't) - please don't refer to Australia as "OUR COUNTRY".

My friend it is my country.
I was born in Australia and i have lived and paid into the country on and off since then.

Now don't make this personal. I have given why i think non Australian born people shouldn't be allowed a vote on this issue without any personal slant.
If i weren't born in Australia i should not get a vote either.

Phucked if I can understand why an Australian Citizen no matter where or when they were born should not have the same say on the matter as every other Australian Citizen no matter where or when they were born.

I have explained why.
How can someone who has just arrived with no attachment to our country or its traditions be expected to appreciate and defend them.

They wont.

An Australian from Vietnam or Italy is not going to be as loyal to the Queen as those of us born in Australia with families and heritage back over decades.
Its obvious.

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Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #68 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:10pm

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:08pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:05pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:01pm:

I hate to tell you but Australia isnt Asian.

Also aligning with a continent reknown for brutal human rights oppression and sickening laws on treatment of humans and animals in appalling conditions is not exactly something i wish Australia to do.

I hope youre proud of the disgusting meek attitude towards China displayed by our leaders in this "Asian" century?

Every country has it's human rights violations and I would love nothing more than for my leaders to take a stand against human rights violations.

They can begin by standing up for west Papuans against the Indonesians. Then they can by all means go up against China's record. But in doing so id hope they also disassociate themselves immediately from the crown.

Unfortunately none of that will happen given in actual fact because of people with your "money means everything" mindset.

afterall, look how long it took sth africa to change their ways.

South Africa was more dangerous after apartheid than during actually.

But thats another topic.

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Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #69 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:10pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:06pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:54pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:51pm:

what's this 'our system' white man???

An Afrikaner pom who spent a few minutes of his life in Australia when he was born and claims: "OUR COUNTRY".

Please do me a favour. Until you return to LIVE here (which i sincerely hope you don't) - please don't refer to Australia as "OUR COUNTRY".

My friend it is my country.
I was born in Australia and i have lived and paid into the country on and off since then.

Now don't make this personal. I have given why i think non Australian born people shouldn't be allowed a vote on this issue without any personal slant.
If i weren't born in Australia i should not get a vote either.

you have chosen not to live here and use 'australian' for convenience.

I have more faith in the people that came here, and stayed here BY CHOICE!

I have CHOSEN to accept a role in Europe that helps my career path.

Now again, see my point about why non Australian born folk should not get a vote and stop making issues personal because for me they arent.

Andrei YOU make every point PERSONAL... roflmao

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Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #70 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:10pm

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:08pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:05pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:01pm:

I hate to tell you but Australia isnt Asian.

Also aligning with a continent reknown for brutal human rights oppression and sickening laws on treatment of humans and animals in appalling conditions is not exactly something i wish Australia to do.

I hope youre proud of the disgusting meek attitude towards China displayed by our leaders in this "Asian" century?

Every country has it's human rights violations and I would love nothing more than for my leaders to take a stand against human rights violations.

They can begin by standing up for west Papuans against the Indonesians. Then they can by all means go up against China's record. But in doing so id hope they also disassociate themselves immediately from the crown.

Unfortunately none of that will happen given in actual fact because of people with your "money means everything" mindset.

afterall, look how long it took sth africa to change their ways.

And i wonder which way Andrei would've argued during the apartheid years.

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Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #71 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:12pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:10pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:08pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:05pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:01pm:

I hate to tell you but Australia isnt Asian.

Also aligning with a continent reknown for brutal human rights oppression and sickening laws on treatment of humans and animals in appalling conditions is not exactly something i wish Australia to do.

I hope youre proud of the disgusting meek attitude towards China displayed by our leaders in this "Asian" century?

Every country has it's human rights violations and I would love nothing more than for my leaders to take a stand against human rights violations.

They can begin by standing up for west Papuans against the Indonesians. Then they can by all means go up against China's record. But in doing so id hope they also disassociate themselves immediately from the crown.

Unfortunately none of that will happen given in actual fact because of people with your "money means everything" mindset.

afterall, look how long it took sth africa to change their ways.

South Africa was more dangerous after apartheid than during actually.

But thats another topic.

I am sure it was .... years of oppression and racism dont disappear overnight .... but thats another topic

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Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #72 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:12pm

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:10pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:06pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:54pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:51pm:

what's this 'our system' white man???

An Afrikaner pom who spent a few minutes of his life in Australia when he was born and claims: "OUR COUNTRY".

Please do me a favour. Until you return to LIVE here (which i sincerely hope you don't) - please don't refer to Australia as "OUR COUNTRY".

My friend it is my country.
I was born in Australia and i have lived and paid into the country on and off since then.

Now don't make this personal. I have given why i think non Australian born people shouldn't be allowed a vote on this issue without any personal slant.
If i weren't born in Australia i should not get a vote either.

you have chosen not to live here and use 'australian' for convenience.

I have more faith in the people that came here, and stayed here BY CHOICE!

I have CHOSEN to accept a role in Europe that helps my career path.

Now again, see my point about why non Australian born folk should not get a vote and stop making issues personal because for me they arent.

Andrei YOU make every point PERSONAL... roflmao

Well this one isnt so how about you address it without personal comment on where i might live....

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Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #73 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:13pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:04pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:54pm:

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:51pm:

what's this 'our system' white man???

An Afrikaner pom who spent a few minutes of his life in Australia when he was born and claims: "OUR COUNTRY".

Please do me a favour. Until you return to LIVE here (which i sincerely hope you don't) - please don't refer to Australia as "OUR COUNTRY".

My friend it is my country.
I was born in Australia and i have lived and paid into the country on and off since then.

Now don't make this personal. I have given why i think non Australian born people shouldn't be allowed a vote on this issue without any personal slant.
If i weren't born in Australia i should not get a vote either.

Phucked if I can understand why an Australian Citizen no matter where or when they were born should not have the same say on the matter as every other Australian Citizen no matter where or when they were born.

I have explained why.
How can someone who has just arrived with no attachment to our country or its traditions be expected to appreciate and defend them.

They wont.

An Australian from Vietnam or Italy is not going to be as loyal to the Queen as those of us born in Australia with families and heritage back over decades.
Its obvious.

Loyal to the queen Grin

. Says it all really.

Why should one be "loyal to the queen".

And your point is completely whacked. Having lived my entire life bar 5 years here, and having gone to school here, and having worked here, I can intrinsically say I have a much better understanding of Australia than you. For one, i don't drink Starbucks when I'm in Melbourne.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic? Reply #74 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:16pm To become an Australian citizen, did you have to get a certificate? Your answer to that (which i dont need) should tell you how much tradition and heritage you have to the country.
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