Australian Politics Forum - New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?

Cliff48

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics />

Posts: 2109
Canberra
Gender: male

Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #30 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:11am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 10:53am:

My favourite argument is from those who want to change the flag because it suggests Britain is the Master of Australia.

Who here thinks Hawaii is owned by Britain?

Start another topic Andrei, this thread is about Australia becoming a republic (and the cost). Changing the flag is an entirely different topic that has nothing to do with whether Australia becomes a republic (or the cost).

(I would have thought a Mod should know better).

Back to top

IP Logged

sir prince duke alevine

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 23619
Gender: male

Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #31 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:17am

So what you're trying to say then maqqa is that for anyone with half a brain the change will result in perhaps a half day worth of confusion.... And then it's the same.

Ok. Thanks for that. I understand how for some in your predicament, changing from android to Apple is like going from living in North Korea to South Korea. For the rest of us, there's a reason they have stopped providing instruction manuals with phones.

. And I agree, it's exactly how the transition will go from some old bag with some jewellery , who truly offers no benefit and simply lives off the tit of the taxpayer, as head of state. The perfect welfare bludger.

Back to top

Disclaimer for Mothra per POST so it is forever acknowledged: Saying 'Islam' or 'Muslims' doesn't mean ALL muslims. This does not target individual muslims who's opinion I am not aware of.

IP Logged

greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156299 Gender:	Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic? Reply #32 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:35am Maqqa wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 8:41am: My question is - if Australia was to become a Republic - what is the cost of changing everything over? Relatively little. It is going to happen. Get used to it. The sun will still shine the next day. Crisis over.
Back to top	GOP = Guardians Of Paedophiles IP Logged

adelcrow

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 20133
everywhere
Gender: male

Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #33 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:10pm

Lets face it..only traitors to this country would defend being subservient to a foreign monarchy while saluting a flag with the UK flag flying in the corner.
The English flag doesn't have the union jack anywhere on it so why does the Australian flag pay homage to our invaders and oppressors?
You are either an Australian Republican and a patriot or a sniveling british monarchist and a traitor..there is no in between.

Back to top

Go the Bunnies

IP Logged

adelcrow

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 20133
everywhere
Gender: male

Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #34 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:11pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 9:39am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 8:55am:

The cost of servitude compared to the price of freedom..

Im a Republican and a proud Australian patriot through and through

Born in England.....

Yep..and Im an Australian..Ive got a piece of paper to prove it Tongue

Back to top

Go the Bunnies

IP Logged

adelcrow

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 20133
everywhere
Gender: male

Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #35 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:13pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:10am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 8:46am:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 8:41am:

General Peter Cosgrove is tipped to be the next GG

My question is - if Australia was to become a Republic - what is the cost of changing everything over?

It's like changing from Android to Apple

It all depends...do u want to stay subservient to a foreign power or do you want to be a part of a totally independent country?
Ask the Americans if the war of independence was worth the cost.

We are subservient to no one. We determine our own destiny. Britain does not rule us.

While you salute a flag with a foreign flag woven into it and ask a foreign monarchy to sign off on our countries decisions you are subservient to another nation.

Back to top

Go the Bunnies

IP Logged

woody2014

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 2044
NTH EAST VIC
Gender: male

Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #36 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:18pm

adelcrow wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:13pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:10am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 8:46am:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 8:41am:

General Peter Cosgrove is tipped to be the next GG

My question is - if Australia was to become a Republic - what is the cost of changing everything over?

It's like changing from Android to Apple

It all depends...do u want to stay subservient to a foreign power or do you want to be a part of a totally independent country?
Ask the Americans if the war of independence was worth the cost.

We are subservient to no one. We determine our own destiny. Britain does not rule us.

While you salute a flag with a foreign flag woven into it and ask a foreign monarchy to sign off on our countries decisions you are subservient to another nation.

smacking C R A P P YOU MORON
Angry

Back to top

THE DUMB LEFTIES ON THIS BOARD DONT KNOW IF THERE WINDING THEIR ARSE OR SCRATCHING THEIR WATCH

IP Logged

Andrei.Hicks

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 23818
Carlsbad, CA
Gender: male

Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #37 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:19pm

adelcrow wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:11pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 9:39am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 8:55am:

The cost of servitude compared to the price of freedom..

Im a Republican and a proud Australian patriot through and through

Born in England.....

Yep..and Im an Australian..Ive got a piece of paper to prove it Tongue

So you're a sell out and a blow-in as well.

Back to top

Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination - Oscar Wilde

IP Logged

Andrei.Hicks

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 23818
Carlsbad, CA
Gender: male

Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #38 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:29pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:17am:

So what you're trying to say then maqqa is that for anyone with half a brain the change will result in perhaps a half day worth of confusion.... And then it's the same.

Ok. Thanks for that. I understand how for some in your predicament, changing from android to Apple is like going from living in North Korea to South Korea. For the rest of us, there's a reason they have stopped providing instruction manuals with phones.

. And I agree, it's exactly how the transition will go from some old bag with some jewellery , who truly offers no benefit and simply lives off the tit of the taxpayer, as head of state. The perfect welfare bludger.

So thats a second one on this thread from another country who wants a different model forAustralia.

Its understandable to some extent given they have no buy in to tradition or history of their new country but a tad boisterous or rude to turn up and demand the system changed?!

Back to top

Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination - Oscar Wilde

IP Logged

Cliff48

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics />

Posts: 2109
Canberra
Gender: male

Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #39 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:29pm

adelcrow wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:13pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:10am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 8:46am:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 8:41am:

General Peter Cosgrove is tipped to be the next GG

My question is - if Australia was to become a Republic - what is the cost of changing everything over?

It's like changing from Android to Apple

It all depends...do u want to stay subservient to a foreign power or do you want to be a part of a totally independent country?
Ask the Americans if the war of independence was worth the cost.

We are subservient to no one. We determine our own destiny. Britain does not rule us.

While you salute a flag with a foreign flag woven into it and ask a foreign monarchy to sign off on our countries decisions you are subservient to another nation.

I disagree Adel,

Many of the monarchists want to hold on to our heritage of our historical connection to the UK. I can understand that and its why I have no problem with the union jack being part of our flag. It is part of our history and nothing will change that.

However, while our heritage wont change, what has changed is the make up of the current demographic.

I am pleased, proud and embrace the multiculturalism we have achieved in Australia. Australia will need to eventually establish its identity in the world. It needs to be a place that all the people from around the world that have made Australia home feel welcome ... not just the $20 tourists we got from the UK 50 years ago.

Back to top

IP Logged

Cliff48

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics />

Posts: 2109
Canberra
Gender: male

Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #40 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:34pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:29pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:17am:

So what you're trying to say then maqqa is that for anyone with half a brain the change will result in perhaps a half day worth of confusion.... And then it's the same.

Ok. Thanks for that. I understand how for some in your predicament, changing from android to Apple is like going from living in North Korea to South Korea. For the rest of us, there's a reason they have stopped providing instruction manuals with phones.

. And I agree, it's exactly how the transition will go from some old bag with some jewellery , who truly offers no benefit and simply lives off the tit of the taxpayer, as head of state. The perfect welfare bludger.

So thats a second one on this thread from another country who wants a different model forAustralia.

Its understandable to some extent given they have no buy in to tradition or history of their new country but a tad boisterous or rude to turn up and demand the system changed?!

You disagree with political debate Andrei - you dont allow difference of opinion?

Back to top

IP Logged

Andrei.Hicks

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 23818
Carlsbad, CA
Gender: male

Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #41 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:40pm

No i dont have a problem with debate.

However on the subject of changing tradition and our system i dont believe people born in another country should get a say.

Thats my view on this subject.

People from countries not linked to our tradition and Commonwealth etc will have little appreciation of it because they have no Australian heritage in the first place.

Hence i am not surprised to see non-Australian born people on here not in favour of the Monarchy.

It isnt a surprise to see Victoria - with such a large non-traditional Aussie background population - most in favour of a Republic last time whereas WA and QLD was so against.

Back to top

Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination - Oscar Wilde

IP Logged

sir prince duke alevine

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 23619
Gender: male

Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #42 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:45pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:29pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 11:17am:

So what you're trying to say then maqqa is that for anyone with half a brain the change will result in perhaps a half day worth of confusion.... And then it's the same.

Ok. Thanks for that. I understand how for some in your predicament, changing from android to Apple is like going from living in North Korea to South Korea. For the rest of us, there's a reason they have stopped providing instruction manuals with phones.

. And I agree, it's exactly how the transition will go from some old bag with some jewellery , who truly offers no benefit and simply lives off the tit of the taxpayer, as head of state. The perfect welfare bludger.

So thats a second one on this thread from another country who wants a different model forAustralia.

Its understandable to some extent given they have no buy in to tradition or history of their new country but a tad boisterous or rude to turn up and demand the system changed?!

It's hardly tradition? Tradition would see all the wealth centered completely around the crown and the incestual lords. If you want tradition go back to that model. But a democratic monarchy, what an absolute waste of time. "Let's celebrate the people responsible for torture, hardship and death of millions for the sake of tradition". What a great use of public funds.

Back to top

Disclaimer for Mothra per POST so it is forever acknowledged: Saying 'Islam' or 'Muslims' doesn't mean ALL muslims. This does not target individual muslims who's opinion I am not aware of.

IP Logged

Andrei.Hicks

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 23818
Carlsbad, CA
Gender: male

Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #43 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:48pm

Its not anything personal against posters here or whatever but has always been my view on this.

Why for example would an Australian citizen born in say Vietnam have a loyalty to our system.

You need to have buy in and tradition to understand it and appreciate it.

So - much like you have to be born in the United States to be President, i think you should have to be born in Australia to vote in a referendum on a Republic change.

Just my take on it.

Back to top

Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination - Oscar Wilde

IP Logged

Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 62379 Here Gender:	Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic? Reply #44 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:49pm viewpoint wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 8:56am: Maybe Australia becoming a Republic would be more akin to an Android becoming a Hemorrhoid..... You are actually funny when I agree with you but more often have more in common with the Haemorrhoid.
Back to top	IP Logged