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Reply #105 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 2:41pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 2:38pm:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:10pm:

Lets face it..only traitors to this country would defend being subservient to a foreign monarchy while saluting a flag with the UK flag flying in the corner.
The English flag doesn't have the union jack anywhere on it so why does the Australian flag pay homage to our invaders and oppressors?
You are either an Australian Republican and a patriot or a sniveling british monarchist and a traitor..there is no in between.

There is an in between. There's people like me who support our constitutional monarchy because it pisses of "progressives".

Wow how absolutely lame. So your opinions are based on whether it pusses off someone else? Very lame. What happened to the well educated misty persona? Sad

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Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #106 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 2:44pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 2:41pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 2:38pm:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:10pm:

Lets face it..only traitors to this country would defend being subservient to a foreign monarchy while saluting a flag with the UK flag flying in the corner.
The English flag doesn't have the union jack anywhere on it so why does the Australian flag pay homage to our invaders and oppressors?
You are either an Australian Republican and a patriot or a sniveling british monarchist and a traitor..there is no in between.

There is an in between. There's people like me who support our constitutional monarchy because it pisses of "progressives".

Wow how absolutely lame. So your opinions are based on whether it pusses off someone else? Very lame. What happened to the well educated misty persona? Sad

If it annoys so many "progressives" there must be something good about it. It's almost an iron law.

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Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #107 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 2:46pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 2:44pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 2:41pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 2:38pm:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 12:10pm:

Lets face it..only traitors to this country would defend being subservient to a foreign monarchy while saluting a flag with the UK flag flying in the corner.
The English flag doesn't have the union jack anywhere on it so why does the Australian flag pay homage to our invaders and oppressors?
You are either an Australian Republican and a patriot or a sniveling british monarchist and a traitor..there is no in between.

There is an in between. There's people like me who support our constitutional monarchy because it pisses of "progressives".

Wow how absolutely lame. So your opinions are based on whether it pusses off someone else? Very lame. What happened to the well educated misty persona? Sad

If it annoys so many "progressives" there must be something good about it. It's almost an iron law.

Nuclear bombs annoy progressives. You want to see them exploded?

Chemical weapons annoy progressives. Let's release them?

Price rises annoy progressives, rise rise rise?

Wages decreases annoy progressives, decrease them?

It's better to have your own valid opinion, rather than parrot something so stupid. You were better than that mist.

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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic? Reply #108 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 2:49pm And I would've thought that a scholar of history, as you have tried to portray yourself as, would side with me when it comes to the old aristocracies.
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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10300 Gender:	Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic? Reply #109 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 2:49pm Most people find those things annoying. It's when the "progressives" exclusively whinge about something.
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Reply #110 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 2:54pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 2:49pm:

Most people find those things annoying. It's when the "progressives" exclusively whinge about something.

It seems progressives are the only ones who whinge about those things. Conservatives tend to not care unless it happens within the physical line of sight. Only then it becomes bad or an important issue.

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Reply #111 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 3:11pm

Peter Cosgrove has been cited as a future GG for a decade or more.

John Howard has stated that he does NOT want the job.

As far as Australia becoming a Republic is concerned, we got to vote on that, way back in a Referendum, that failed. I actually voted YES to becoming a Republic, but I think that IF we do become a Republic, we Aussies want to vote for our President, not have the position filled by some pollie. We either have a President or a Prime Minister ... NOT both. What would be the point? Howard's idea was dead wrong and the reason he did that was because he doesn't want Australia to ditch the Monarchy. I think the Monarchy is a Pom thing and we don't need it here. Wink

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156383 Gender:	Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic? Reply #112 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 3:22pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 2:41pm: What happened to the well educated misty persona? I haven't seen that one. Does he come here often?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156383 Gender:	Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic? Reply #113 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 3:27pm Neferti wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 3:11pm: ... we Aussies want to vote for our President ... Why not just replace the Queen and the GG with a President (or any other name you want to call them), appointed by parliament. We've never voted for our monarch or GG.
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Reply #114 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 3:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

Neferti wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 3:11pm:

... we Aussies want to vote for our President ...

Why not just replace the Queen and the GG with a President (or any other name you want to call them), appointed by parliament.

We've never voted for our monarch or GG.

Because becoming a REPUBLIC is just not changing the names and titles in Australia's Constitution.

We don't actually vote for the Prime Minister, either, remember?

We do NOT need a Prime Minister and a President ... i.e. calling the GG a President, won't work. If we ever become a Republic, the entire system has to change.

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Reply #115 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 3:34pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 2:35pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 2:30pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:47pm:

.......and in breaking news.....the inside oil is that Cosgrove is to be the next GG. I reckon that is a career error, but it is his to make. The bloke likes a drink, became as fat as a bloated pig......and now.......he is on a lose weight regimen.

http://www.newsmaker.com.au/releaseFile/view/id/18589/thumb/800x800/cache/Genera...

Actually he is a decent bloke and like previous military personnel in this post, he will in all likelihood do an exceptional job.

But your purile and vile opinion has been allowed to be expressed because of people like him giving you that priveledge.

I am begining to hate this country and its people a little more each time listen to the peices of sh1t in it express their heart felt opions. Angry

Santa not come to see you, Mate?

Just sick of deadsh1ts who feel the absolute need to express their deadsh1t opinions on subjects they know less than fck all about.

But it is your priveledge to do so, thanks to those like Cosgrove who served to protect your right to express your opinion.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156383 Gender:	Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic? Reply #116 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 3:37pm Neferti wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 3:34pm: We do NOT need a Prime Minister and a President ... i.e. calling the GG a President, won't work. If we ever become a Republic, the entire system has to change. Of course it will work. I'd like to hear why you think it wouldn't though
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Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #117 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 3:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 3:27pm:

Neferti wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 3:11pm:

... we Aussies want to vote for our President ...

Why not just replace the Queen and the GG with a President (or any other name you want to call them), appointed by parliament.

We've never voted for our monarch or GG.

How does throwing away a stable sysrtem of government for an unknown system of government, benefit us, exactly.

And please don'ta say it is just a name change, because only a total moron would believe that, but then again if that is your argument, I suppose that is all you have.

If there is no benefit, what is the point.

And having a whiney bunch of p1ss ant socialist feel better aboput themselves in not a benefit.

I couldn't get the ARM to give me one solid benefit for the country, I doubt you bunch of einsteins are going to have much to contribute; you haven't so far from what I have read. Grin

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Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #118 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 3:40pm

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 3:34pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 2:35pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 2:30pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 1:47pm:

.......and in breaking news.....the inside oil is that Cosgrove is to be the next GG. I reckon that is a career error, but it is his to make. The bloke likes a drink, became as fat as a bloated pig......and now.......he is on a lose weight regimen.

http://www.newsmaker.com.au/releaseFile/view/id/18589/thumb/800x800/cache/Genera...

Actually he is a decent bloke and like previous military personnel in this post, he will in all likelihood do an exceptional job.

But your purile and vile opinion has been allowed to be expressed because of people like him giving you that priveledge.

I am begining to hate this country and its people a little more each time listen to the peices of sh1t in it express their heart felt opions. Angry

Santa not come to see you, Mate?

Just sick of deadsh1ts who feel the absolute need to express their deadsh1t opinions on subjects they know less than fck all about.

But it is your priveledge to do so, thanks to those like Cosgrove who served to protect your right to express your opinion.

Aussie obviously has no respect for men who went to War. Cosgrove would be a good GG. Other military persons have done the job previously. The position needs someone with decorum and the ability to have a stiff upper lip while shaking hands with all sorts and still looking like you are enjoying it. It is NOT a fashion post. Wink

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Re: New GG - but what is the cost of a Republic?
Reply #119 - Dec 26^th, 2013 at 3:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 3:37pm:

Neferti wrote on Dec 26^th, 2013 at 3:34pm:

We do NOT need a Prime Minister and a President ... i.e. calling the GG a President, won't work. If we ever become a Republic, the entire system has to change.

Of course it will work.

I'd like to hear why you think it wouldn't though Undecided

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