|dev|null wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 4:24pm:


No no, the old boy's an equal-opportunity hater. The old boy hates all his neighbours.

His Lutheran prophet doesn't come into it. As a Freudian, the old boy is most secular in this regard.

Adamant wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 5:47pm:


You'd prefer they all wanted to kill you or do you already believe that?   

|dev|null wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 3:35pm:



It shows what they DO, not what they SAY.

Or do you think that's irrelevant?

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3533041/Warning-UK-Muslim-ghettoes-Nation-nation-developing-says-former-equalities-watchdog.html

Warning on 'UK Muslim ghettoes': Nation within a nation developing says former equalities watchdog

Trevor Phillips says many Muslims hold 'different values' to rest of society
He is the former head of the Equality and Human Rights Commission
It comes after major survey on Muslim attitudes on UK issues
One in three supports bigamy and more than half oppose gay marriage

British Muslims are becoming a nation within a nation, the former equalities watchdog warns today.

Trevor Phillips says many hold very different values from the rest of society and want to lead separate lives.

Most worryingly, those with separatist views are far more likely to support terrorism. The former head of the Equality and Human Rights Commission advocates the monitoring of ethnic minority populations on housing estates to stop them becoming ‘ghetto villages’.

He says schools may have to consider a 50 per cent limit on Muslim or other minority pupils to encourage social integration.

And he says disturbing survey findings point to a growing chasm between the attitudes of many British Muslims and their compatriots.

In a no-holds barred article for the Daily Mail ahead of a television documentary on Muslim attitudes in Britain, Mr Phillips also warns:

Extremist ideas have flourished while politicians claim ‘only a tiny minority hold dangerous views’;
An estimated 100,000 British Muslims admit having sympathy with suicide bombers fighting injustice;
Many believe it is divinely ordained that a woman should always obey her husband;
Large numbers ‘do not accept the values and behaviours that make Britain what it is’.

Mr Phillips’ intervention comes after he was asked to analyse the findings of a major survey on Muslim attitudes in the UK, which will form the basis of Channel 4’s documentary, What British Muslims Really Think, which airs on Wednesday night.

The documentary will portray the UK’s Muslims as a nation within a nation that has its own geography and values.

Mr Phillips warns of a ‘life-and-death struggle for the soul of British Islam’.

He insists: ‘The reason why our fellow Britons seem so far out of line with mainstream opinion is that too many live in a different Britain to the rest of us.’

A fifth have not entered the home of a non-Muslim in the past year. The poll found that 39 per cent of the 1,081 Muslim adult men and women questioned for the survey agreed that wives should always obey their husbands.

One in three supports the right of a man to have more than one wife, even though it is illegal in the UK. Twenty-three per cent support the introduction of sharia law.

Fifty-two per cent of the Muslims surveyed did not believe that homosexuality should be legal, and even more opposed gay marriage.

Almost half thought it was unacceptable for a gay or lesbian to teach their children.

And young Muslims were found to be nearly as far removed from the rest of British society as their elders.

Mr Phillips says most Muslims in this ‘nation-within-a-nation’ reject violence in defence of their faith.

But 4 per cent, equivalent to 100,000 British Muslims, had sympathy for those who used violent ends to defend Islam.

The equalities campaigner pointed to the recent killing of Glasgow newsagent Asad Shah by a fellow Muslim.

This life and death struggle: In a stark analysis, former equalities chief reveals how extremist ideals have been allowed to flourish

By Trevor Phillips

Britain is in many ways a better place than it’s ever been – more prosperous, more diverse, more liberal.

But for some of our fellow citizens, we’re heading in entirely the wrong direction. So much so that some of them would rather live under a wholly different system.

Indeed, a significant minority of Britain’s three million Muslims consider us a nation of such low morals that they would rather live more separately from their non-Muslim countrymen, preferably under sharia law.

This sobering conclusion comes from the most comprehensive survey of British Muslims ever conducted, commissioned by Channel 4.

Having been asked to examine its results, I believe it holds a grim message for all of us.

There is a life-and-death struggle for the soul of British Islam – and this is not a battle that the rest of us can afford to sit out. We need to take sides.

For the most part, Britain’s Muslims share most people’s preoccupations – jobs, homes, a future for their families. Nearly nine out of ten say they feel British.

One of the reasons they like Britain is freedom to practise their religion as they see fit.

But below the surface, the pollsters told us that a ‘chasm’ was developing between the attitudes of many British Muslims and their compatriots, driven by their adherence to their faith.

More than half of Muslims think lesbian or gay relationships should be illegal.

Almost a third of British Muslims think polygamy – currently illegal – should be permitted. Young Muslims are nearly as enthusiastic for it as older Muslims.

Two fifths (39 per cent) of Muslims say a woman should always obey her husband, compared to 5 per cent of non-Muslims.

These views are not regarded as old-fashioned – they are seen by those who hold them as divinely ordained.

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FD would you have sympathy for suicide bombing to fight injustice?

your view of injustice - obviously.