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Reply #45 - Jan 4th, 2014 at 8:12am
 
cods wrote on Jan 4th, 2014 at 7:31am:
well herb I am buggered if I know where you find this type of news...no dont tell me..I want to believe that is a pack of lies.. even for a despot...that would have to be more than bad.. where are the so called human rights brigade??.. they may not change anything but atg least the mongrel would know the world is watching.

ye gods I feel sick..we are talking about human beings...people who are supposed to be better than an animal that tears another apart.. Angry Angry Angry


A tyrant like this sadist who has a nuclear weapons delivery system should not be allowed to continue living.

If it was up to me, I would have a nuclear bomb dropped from a great height onto the leadership of North Korea when they are all gathered together for one of those march-past ceremonies.

Lots of collateral damage as happened in Nagasaki and Hiroshima ~ but the lesser of two evils.

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Reply #46 - Jan 4th, 2014 at 8:20am
 
I'd agree with you both, however when your conscense kicks in, you think about all the innocent NK people who are starving and living in appalling conditions. Do they deserve to be killed to rid the world of a nutcase? Why not target him and his henchmen?
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Reply #47 - Jan 4th, 2014 at 10:20am
 
viewpoint wrote on Jan 4th, 2014 at 8:20am:
I'd agree with you both, however when your conscense kicks in, you think about all the innocent NK people who are starving and living in appalling conditions. Do they deserve to be killed to rid the world of a nutcase? Why not target him and his henchmen?


Because that can't be done. It would be impossible to cherry-pick just the leaders.

At a march-past ceremony the leadership is gathered together ... AND 10's of 1000's of military personnel are mustered within the radius of a Hiroshima bomb.

And then the South Koreans could enter the country and make it part of their capitalist democracy.

For the West to leave a lunatic in charge of nuclear weapons is insane.



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Reply #48 - Jan 4th, 2014 at 5:42pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 4th, 2014 at 10:20am:
viewpoint wrote on Jan 4th, 2014 at 8:20am:
I'd agree with you both, however when your conscense kicks in, you think about all the innocent NK people who are starving and living in appalling conditions. Do they deserve to be killed to rid the world of a nutcase? Why not target him and his henchmen?


Because that can't be done. It would be impossible to cherry-pick just the leaders.

At a march-past ceremony the leadership is gathered together ... AND 10's of 1000's of military personnel are mustered within the radius of a Hiroshima bomb.

And then the South Koreans could enter the country and make it part of their capitalist democracy.

For the West to leave a lunatic in charge of nuclear weapons is insane.






sorry herb but with your actions being virtually as bad as Kim jongs... I dont know what to think.. Angry

dropping a bomb on anyone is despicable..but a nuclear bomb is worse ... as you admit he has nuclear weapons..and you think dropping a bomb on that lot would solve humanities problems.. Roll Eyes

I could not agree less.

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Reply #49 - Jan 4th, 2014 at 7:13pm
 
cods wrote on Jan 4th, 2014 at 5:42pm:
sorry herb but with your actions being virtually as bad as Kim jongs... I dont know what to think.. Angry

dropping a bomb on anyone is despicable..but a nuclear bomb is worse ... as you admit he has nuclear weapons..and you think dropping a bomb on that lot would solve humanities problems.. Roll Eyes

I could not agree less.



Well, okay, we'll just sit around doing nothing while this lunatic and his army of robotic nutters get stronger and more dangerous.

If they eventually attack South Korea I hope you agree with me that no Australian soldiers should be sent over there to risk their lives fighting the North Koreans.
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Reply #50 - Jan 4th, 2014 at 7:39pm
 
I don't think I can criticise another countries policies.   Wink
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Reply #51 - Jan 4th, 2014 at 8:11pm
 
Anyone sporting a haircut like this DESERVES to be nuked.

I'm sure even cods agrees with me.  Cool

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Reply #52 - Jan 4th, 2014 at 8:53pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 4th, 2014 at 7:13pm:
cods wrote on Jan 4th, 2014 at 5:42pm:
sorry herb but with your actions being virtually as bad as Kim jongs... I dont know what to think.. Angry

dropping a bomb on anyone is despicable..but a nuclear bomb is worse ... as you admit he has nuclear weapons..and you think dropping a bomb on that lot would solve humanities problems.. Roll Eyes

I could not agree less.



Well, okay, we'll just sit around doing nothing while this lunatic and his army of robotic nutters get stronger and more dangerous.

If they eventually attack South Korea I hope you agree with me that no Australian soldiers should be sent over there to risk their lives fighting the North Koreans.


We would need a better reason than just human rights attrocities for the Coalition of the Willing to attack North Korea. Perhaps if oil or gas was secretly  discovered there or the Texas Oilmen or Sheikhs needed a pipeline to run across the country - then there would be justification to drop bombs, capture Kim Jong junior and hang him.
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Reply #53 - Jan 4th, 2014 at 9:11pm
 
cods wrote on Jan 4th, 2014 at 7:31am:
ye gods I feel sick..we are talking about human beings...people who are supposed to be better than an animal that tears another apart


also the most vicious, murderous and bloody species that ever existed.  Wink Wink

why do people where blinkers when they talk about human beings?
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Reply #54 - Jan 5th, 2014 at 7:24am
 
mantra wrote on Jan 4th, 2014 at 8:53pm:
We would need a better reason than just human rights attrocities for the Coalition of the Willing to attack North Korea. Perhaps if oil or gas was secretly  discovered there or the Texas Oilmen or Sheikhs needed a pipeline to run across the country - then there would be justification to drop bombs, capture Kim Jong junior and hang him.


If the Coalition of the Willing was going to spend gazillions on removing a dictatorship that regularly rewarded the families of suicide bombers a fixed $25,000 ... And then remove any al-Qaeda training camps within its borders ... why on earth wouldn't the Americans be thinking in terms of recouping their expenses through profits from Iraqi oil?

But if it's a 'fact' that America 'stole' the Iraqi oil business all for itself, then why is it that China has a bigger investment in Iraqi oil than even the US ~ and this by agreement with the US-installed democratic government of Iraq that has been free to sideline the US as secondary to China?

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BAGHDAD — Since the American-led invasion of 2003, Iraq has become one of the world’s top oil producers, and China is now its biggest customer.

China already buys nearly half the oil that Iraq produces, nearly 1.5 million barrels a day, and is angling for an even bigger share, bidding for a stake now owned by Exxon Mobil in one of Iraq’s largest oil fields.

“The Chinese are the biggest beneficiary of this post-Saddam oil boom in Iraq,” said Denise Natali, a Middle East expert at the National Defense University in Washington. “They need energy, and they want to get into the market.”

Before the invasion, Iraq’s oil industry was sputtering, largely walled off from world markets by international sanctions against the government of Saddam Hussein, so his overthrow always carried the promise of renewed access to the country’s immense reserves. Chinese state-owned companies seized the opportunity, pouring more than $2 billion a year and hundreds of workers into Iraq, and just as important, showing a willingness to play by the new Iraqi government’s rules and to accept lower profits to win contracts.


Would an 'evil' USA allow for such free market activities in Iraq if its intention had always been to dominate and rule Iraq like a replacement dictatorship? Of course not.


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Reply #55 - Jan 5th, 2014 at 8:19am
 
"Paging Mantra to the desk please ... "

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"You can run but you can't hide .... "

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Reply #56 - Jan 5th, 2014 at 8:25am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 4th, 2014 at 7:13pm:
cods wrote on Jan 4th, 2014 at 5:42pm:
sorry herb but with your actions being virtually as bad as Kim jongs... I dont know what to think.. Angry

dropping a bomb on anyone is despicable..but a nuclear bomb is worse ... as you admit he has nuclear weapons..and you think dropping a bomb on that lot would solve humanities problems.. Roll Eyes

I could not agree less.



Well, okay, we'll just sit around doing nothing while this lunatic and his army of robotic nutters get stronger and more dangerous.

If they eventually attack South Korea I hope you agree with me that no Australian soldiers should be sent over there to risk their lives fighting the North Koreans.




not disputing your intentions just your means herb thats all... one crime does not make up for another crime..and to drop bombs is not right.. is it??...

I said I felt sick reading that link and I still do it shocks me to the core..but what can we do about such barbarianism?? if he gets nuked someone worse will take his place..

I have noticed a softening of CHina is recent times.. they are now allowing two children per family..and there seems to be more wealth amongst them..so who knows maybe Nth Korea will see the light as well..in the mean time nothing will bring back these people they are gone and I trust to god no one else faces that kind of torture..

I still ask what have the UN said?   anything anything at all...... Roll Eyes
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Reply #57 - Jan 5th, 2014 at 8:27am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 5th, 2014 at 8:19am:
"Paging Mantra to the desk please ... "

"Paging Lady Mantra ... "

"You can run but you can't hide .... "

"Lady Mantra ... Paging Lady Mantra ... "

Cool




the left equate everything to oil.. dontcha know that...of course ask them to go without OIL>. and see what happens..

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin ;

it will be Abbott fault.
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Reply #58 - Jan 5th, 2014 at 10:12am
 
cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2014 at 8:25am:
not disputing your intentions just your means herb thats all... one crime does not make up for another crime..and to drop bombs is not right.. is it??...


Were all those Australian soldiers who went off to war with guns in order to commit the 'crime' of murder against other human beans just as guilty as Hitler's soldiers or the Nipponese army?

The only reason you're not speaking Japanese today and working as slave-labour for Mitsubishi is because the Good Guys killed enough of the Bad Guys to make them quit.

cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2014 at 8:25am:
I said I felt sick reading that link and I still do it shocks me to the core..but what can we do about such barbarianism??


... umm ... drop a bomb on them?  Roll Eyes  Tongue

cods wrote on Jan 5th, 2014 at 8:25am:
... in the mean time nothing will bring back these people they are gone and I trust to god no one else faces that kind of torture..


The real horror is the realisation that with a huge number of just ordinary everyday people like ourselves every kind of excess would soon be practiced if there was no law to answer to.



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Reply #59 - Jan 5th, 2014 at 10:30am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 5th, 2014 at 7:24am:
If the Coalition of the Willing was going to spend gazillions on removing a dictatorship that regularly rewarded the families of suicide bombers a fixed $25,000 ... And then remove any al-Qaeda training camps within its borders ... why on earth wouldn't the Americans be thinking in terms of recouping their expenses through profits from Iraqi oil?


Yes the poor citizens of the US are in debt to the tune of $trillions for the cost of the Iraqi and Afghanistan wars, but that's irrelevant because the big boys in town - Haliburton, the arms manufacturers and the oil companies made billions in profits and continue to do so.

At the time we invaded Iraq - Saddam was signing up to the petroeuro, which would have seen the US dollar lose its status as the world's premier reserve currency. This alone would have severely restricted trading and seen the oil giants' profits decline considerably.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 5th, 2014 at 7:24am:
But if it's a 'fact' that America 'stole' the Iraqi oil business all for itself, then why is it that China has a bigger investment in Iraqi oil than even the US ~ and this by agreement with the US-installed democratic government of Iraq that has been free to sideline the US as secondary to China?


China is the largest holder of US government debt - so it's quite obvious that China would demand a large slice of the pie.

How do the Iraqi's benefit from their oil being controlled by the US and China? Certainly not in their current shocking standard of living. Iraq was once an advanced and cultured nation, but it's been bombed into submission and poverty.

Just remember the US were mates with Saddam at one time.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 5th, 2014 at 8:19am:
"Paging Mantra to the desk please ... "

"Paging Lady Mantra ... "

"You can run but you can't hide .... "

"Lady Mantra ... Paging Lady Mantra ... "

Cool


I haven't run away. I could argue the politics of the Iraqi war until the cows come home, but typing is difficult because Ruffy is lying over my wrists and on my keyboard.
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