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Reply #150 - Jan 13^th, 2014 at 8:19am

John Smith wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 8:11am:

so is the pattern of teenagers and car crashes, lets ban all teenager from driving.

The ones who prove to be immature hoons are banned ...

mantra wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 6:52am:

They seem to be often used as guard dogs for criminals in movies

John Smith wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 8:11am:

they are used as guard dogs by people that want a reliable guard dog .. they are very good for that purpose.

No argument from me there, as long as the property has secure fences.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 7:08am:

This will disappoint John, of course

John Smith wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 8:11am:

Not at all, can't you read, I already told you none of my dogs would ever bark at another human being let alone try to bite them ... Cheesy

But that's what they ALL say after the neighbour's kid has had his face ripped off ...

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 7:08am:

He'll simply have to get some gladiator-type tattoos on his sword arm to compensate for the loss of 'macho' as he now walks his toy poodles around the block each morning and evening...

John Smith wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 8:11am:

YOu really are stupid aren't you ... I don't do tattoos, and there are lots of other breeds inbetween Doberman and Toy Poodle,

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 7:08am:

I am utterly opposed to the issuing of licences to private citizens for the purposes of backyard breeding and sale of dogs.

John Smith wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 8:11am:

On that we agree, although I wasn't aware that one needed a license

Oh yes.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: The savage dogs thread ... Reply #151 - Jan 13^th, 2014 at 8:40am Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 8:19am: The ones who prove to be immature hoons are banned ... Notice you've wrote The ones who prove to be , I have no problem calling an individual dog aggressive if it has been proven ... just don't tell me its the breed. [/quote]
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Reply #152 - Jan 13^th, 2014 at 10:06am

John Smith wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 8:40am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 8:19am:

The ones who prove to be immature hoons are banned ...

Notice you've wrote

The ones who prove to be

, I have no problem calling an individual dog aggressive if it has been proven ... just don't tell me its the breed.

It is the breed.

The hoons are genetic in origin.

At an early age they are prescribed Rohypnol to reduce their aggression levels.

But then they default on taking their medication and end up wrapped around a tree after trying to take a corner at 100k.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: The savage dogs thread ... Reply #153 - Jan 13^th, 2014 at 10:22am Herb, you are a bona fide idiot ......
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Reply #154 - Jan 13^th, 2014 at 10:49am

Run out of gas, have you?

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After the death of John-Paul Massey by a pit bull style dog in Liverpool the then Prime Minister Gordon Brown backed the Daily Mirror’s campaign on dangerous dogs which it demands:

‘Outlaw all vicious cross-breeds currently being used to get around the Act, which specifies particular breeds’ (Lyons 2009).

'Dangerous dogs' in the U.K. reports several stories of dog attacks on children highlighting certain breeds (UK and Spain 2010).

It is easy to understand why some countries ban breeds.

Dublin has banned 11 (O’Boyle 2010).

Switzerland has banned fifteen (Lenouvelliste 2010).

In the U.K. the American Pit bull Terrier, the Japanese Tosa, the Dogo Argentino and the Filo Brasilero are banned (Directgov 2010).

Some of the smaller, unbanned dogs are more aggressive than the bigger dogs ~ but they're not dangerous.

We're talking about dangerous breeds here ... and it's ALWAYS one of the Usual Suspects.

Capish?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: The savage dogs thread ... Reply #155 - Jan 13^th, 2014 at 10:59am Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 10:49am: Run out of gas, have you? no, but if you think teenagers who crash cars have done so because they were fed Rohypnol at an early age ... well, you are obviously to stupid to bother debating anything with.
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Reply #156 - Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:10am

John Smith wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 8:13am:

What gave you the impression that the owners aren't good dog owners? the sign, the fence or the dog? ... all things I would suggest anyone with a dog provide.

If you've owned dogs for any length of time - you learn to understand their body language and that of other dogs. Overly submissive and cowered dogs aren't usually born that way.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 10:06am:

It is the breed.

The hoons are genetic in origin.

At an early age they are prescribed Rohypnol to reduce their aggression levels.

But then they default on taking their medication and end up wrapped around a tree after trying to take a corner at 100k.

I think it's the aggressive/violent video games that kids have been addicted to for the last 20 years which reduces their instinct for caution. If they can race a car at high speed in a game, then why not in reality?

The US trains their marines on video games which comes as no surprise.

This one seems to be a current favourite for Sydney's thugs.

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Reply #157 - Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:21am

Some timely relief from Lady Mantra!

But you're right.

Violent video games played at an age before moral conscience has developed and crystallised must account for the 'king-hit' lunatics and the others.

It's probably the same with dogs.

Early exposure to violent video games .... Cool

Lady Mantra ~ John's not talking to me any more in this thread. I knew I'd get lucky some time.

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Reply #158 - Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:23am

mantra wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:10am:

If you've owned dogs for any length of time - you learn to understand their body language and that of other dogs. Overly submissive and cowered dogs aren't usually born that way.

or maybe the dog keeps getting attacked or yelled at by passers by? You or Herb don't have enough information to make that call one way or the other.

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Datalife Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2405 Gender:	Re: The savage dogs thread ... Reply #159 - Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:28am A friend of mine saw her dog catch and kill a cat. I tell you she never looked at her dog in the same way again after seeing it nature red in tooth and claw as it were. A glimpse of a very different dog to that who sits beside the food bowl with a goofy grin on its face waiting for its meal delivered from a tin.
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Reply #160 - Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:46am

I have an Italian neighbour at the back of my property whose wife finds it totally impossible to treat their dog with anything other than shouted warnings and directions in a harsh and scolding voice.

Not once have I heard her talk in a friendly and affectionate way to the animal.

Being so bereft of any civilised pretensions or moral conscience, she takes the opportunity to use the dog to extricate herself from feeling she is the last in the pecking order.

Good help any Negro house servants in her Gone With The Wind southern cotton plantation.

People so often show themselves to be utter bastards whenever the opportunity presents itself.

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Reply #161 - Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:49am

Datalife wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:28am:

A friend of mine saw her dog catch and kill a cat. I tell you she never looked at her dog in the same way again after seeing it nature red in tooth and claw as it were.

A glimpse of a very different dog to that who sits beside the food bowl with a goofy grin on its face waiting for its meal delivered from a tin.

she should reward that dog .....

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Reply #162 - Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:52am

John Smith wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:49am:

Datalife wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:28am:

A friend of mine saw her dog catch and kill a cat. I tell you she never looked at her dog in the same way again after seeing it nature red in tooth and claw as it were.

A glimpse of a very different dog to that who sits beside the food bowl with a goofy grin on its face waiting for its meal delivered from a tin.

she should reward that dog .....

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Herb, you are a bona fide idiot ......

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Reply #163 - Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:53am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:52am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:49am:

Datalife wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:28am:

A friend of mine saw her dog catch and kill a cat. I tell you she never looked at her dog in the same way again after seeing it nature red in tooth and claw as it were.

A glimpse of a very different dog to that who sits beside the food bowl with a goofy grin on its face waiting for its meal delivered from a tin.

she should reward that dog .....

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Herb, you are a bona fide idiot ......

i knew you'd like that Herb .... Grin

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Reply #164 - Jan 13^th, 2014 at 12:52pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:23am:

mantra wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:10am:

If you've owned dogs for any length of time - you learn to understand their body language and that of other dogs. Overly submissive and cowered dogs aren't usually born that way.

or maybe the dog keeps getting attacked or yelled at by passers by? You or Herb don't have enough information to make that call one way or the other.

It's a logical assumption, but true - you would need conclusive evidence that cowered dogs have all been brutalised by humans. Few people admit to beating their animals though.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

It's probably the same with dogs.

Early exposure to violent video games .... Cool

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