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Re: Will Malcolm be man enough
Reply #15 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 11:28am

John S wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 7:21am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 6:42am:

and if we didn't have Liberal govts we would never have paid for them meaning we wouldn't be able to afford anything ever again.

Tell my one government that paid for the Trans Australia Railway or the Sydney Opera house that didn't go into debt?

Don't forget that Howard didn't built any infrastructure for Public use. He built the Darwin to Alice Springs railway and sold it as soon as it was finish.

because the railway had purpose and made profit. it had economic benefit. So far the only obviously use for the NBN is faster porn and downloading TV shows.

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Reply #16 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 11:37am

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 11:28am:

John S wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 7:21am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 6:42am:

and if we didn't have Liberal govts we would never have paid for them meaning we wouldn't be able to afford anything ever again.

Tell my one government that paid for the Trans Australia Railway or the Sydney Opera house that didn't go into debt?

Don't forget that Howard didn't built any infrastructure for Public use. He built the Darwin to Alice Springs railway and sold it as soon as it was finish.

because the railway had purpose and made profit. it had economic benefit. So far the only obviously use for the NBN is faster porn and downloading TV shows.

1. “This ‘telephone’ has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication.” — Western Union internal memo, 1876.

2. “I think there is a world market for maybe five computers.” — Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943. “The world potential market for copying machines is 5,000 at most,” IBM executives to the eventual founders of Xerox, 1959.

3. “Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equipped with 18 000 vacuum tubes and weighs 30 tons, computers of the future may have only 1 000 vacuum tubes and perhaps weigh 1½ tons.” — Popular Mechanics, March 1949

4. “I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone.” — Jack Valenti, MPAA president, testimony to the House of Representatives, 1982

5. “Do not bother to sell your gas shares. The electric light has no future.” —Professor John Henry Pepper, Victorian-era celebrity scientist, sometime in the 1870s

6. “Television won’t be able to hold on to any market it captures after the first six months. People will soon get tired of staring at a plywood box every night,” Darryl Zanuck, 20th Century Fox, 1946.

7. “The problem of TV was that people had to glue their eyes to a screen, and that the average American wouldn’t have time for it.”
− The New York Times, 1939

8. “The subscription model of buying music is bankrupt. I think you could make available the Second Coming in a subscription model and it might not be successful.” Steve Jobs — Rolling Stone, Dec. 3, 2003

9. “Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value.” — Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre

10. “The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay for a message sent to no one in particular?” — Associates of David Sarnoff responding to the latter’s call for investment in the radio in 1921

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11. The NBN will only ever be used for Porn & Pirating TV shows - Longweekend58 20/12/2013

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Re: Will Malcolm be man enough
Reply #17 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 11:48am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 11:37am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 11:28am:

John S wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 7:21am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 6:42am:

and if we didn't have Liberal govts we would never have paid for them meaning we wouldn't be able to afford anything ever again.

Tell my one government that paid for the Trans Australia Railway or the Sydney Opera house that didn't go into debt?

Don't forget that Howard didn't built any infrastructure for Public use. He built the Darwin to Alice Springs railway and sold it as soon as it was finish.

because the railway had purpose and made profit. it had economic benefit. So far the only obviously use for the NBN is faster porn and downloading TV shows.

1. “This ‘telephone’ has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication.” — Western Union internal memo, 1876.

2. “I think there is a world market for maybe five computers.” — Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943. “The world potential market for copying machines is 5,000 at most,” IBM executives to the eventual founders of Xerox, 1959.

3. “Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equipped with 18 000 vacuum tubes and weighs 30 tons, computers of the future may have only 1 000 vacuum tubes and perhaps weigh 1½ tons.” — Popular Mechanics, March 1949

4. “I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone.” — Jack Valenti, MPAA president, testimony to the House of Representatives, 1982

5. “Do not bother to sell your gas shares. The electric light has no future.” —Professor John Henry Pepper, Victorian-era celebrity scientist, sometime in the 1870s

6. “Television won’t be able to hold on to any market it captures after the first six months. People will soon get tired of staring at a plywood box every night,” Darryl Zanuck, 20th Century Fox, 1946.

7. “The problem of TV was that people had to glue their eyes to a screen, and that the average American wouldn’t have time for it.”
− The New York Times, 1939

8. “The subscription model of buying music is bankrupt. I think you could make available the Second Coming in a subscription model and it might not be successful.” Steve Jobs — Rolling Stone, Dec. 3, 2003

9. “Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value.” — Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre

10. “The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay for a message sent to no one in particular?” — Associates of David Sarnoff responding to the latter’s call for investment in the radio in 1921

And now we can add

11. The NBN will only ever be used for Porn & Pirating TV shows - Longweekend58 20/12/2013

the difference is that all the above were NEW technologies and while they sound amusing and embarrassing today what you don't read about is the 1000 other such comments which were... true.

The NBN is not new technology at all and is simply an incremental change to an existing one. Not dissimilar to rebuilding the nations roads and building lane freeways everywhere - including down every suburban street.

but if you are so clever than you too can go to the experience of all these other countries and states etc with a FTTH network in place and tell me of all the amazing industries that have sprung up overnight and all the amazing new technologies that have been developed that cant run on ADSL. You might come up with the amazing revelation that DEloitte came up with that we will be able to do... online shopping. Spare us from the stupidity of such people!

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Re: Will Malcolm be man enough
Reply #18 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 12:12pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 11:48am:

the difference is that all the above were NEW technologies

One could argue the mobile phone is just an extension of the telephone, the VCR an extension of the 32mm camera.

But hey I don't care, just like EVERYTHING else your against this, not for any real reason but just because Tony is.

If Murdoch turned around tomorrow & saw a $$$ opportunity in the NBN, Tony would build it within his 1st term & hang the cost.
And of course you'd be here telling us what an essential piece of infrastructure this was for the nation & how Labor would never have the vision or guts to do it.

BORING

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Reply #19 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 12:17pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 11:48am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 11:37am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 11:28am:

John S wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 7:21am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 6:42am:

and if we didn't have Liberal govts we would never have paid for them meaning we wouldn't be able to afford anything ever again.

Tell my one government that paid for the Trans Australia Railway or the Sydney Opera house that didn't go into debt?

Don't forget that Howard didn't built any infrastructure for Public use. He built the Darwin to Alice Springs railway and sold it as soon as it was finish.

because the railway had purpose and made profit. it had economic benefit. So far the only obviously use for the NBN is faster porn and downloading TV shows.

1. “This ‘telephone’ has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication.” — Western Union internal memo, 1876.

2. “I think there is a world market for maybe five computers.” — Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943. “The world potential market for copying machines is 5,000 at most,” IBM executives to the eventual founders of Xerox, 1959.

3. “Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equipped with 18 000 vacuum tubes and weighs 30 tons, computers of the future may have only 1 000 vacuum tubes and perhaps weigh 1½ tons.” — Popular Mechanics, March 1949

4. “I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone.” — Jack Valenti, MPAA president, testimony to the House of Representatives, 1982

5. “Do not bother to sell your gas shares. The electric light has no future.” —Professor John Henry Pepper, Victorian-era celebrity scientist, sometime in the 1870s

6. “Television won’t be able to hold on to any market it captures after the first six months. People will soon get tired of staring at a plywood box every night,” Darryl Zanuck, 20th Century Fox, 1946.

7. “The problem of TV was that people had to glue their eyes to a screen, and that the average American wouldn’t have time for it.”
− The New York Times, 1939

8. “The subscription model of buying music is bankrupt. I think you could make available the Second Coming in a subscription model and it might not be successful.” Steve Jobs — Rolling Stone, Dec. 3, 2003

9. “Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value.” — Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre

10. “The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay for a message sent to no one in particular?” — Associates of David Sarnoff responding to the latter’s call for investment in the radio in 1921

And now we can add

11. The NBN will only ever be used for Porn & Pirating TV shows - Longweekend58 20/12/2013

the difference is that all the above were NEW technologies and while they sound amusing and embarrassing today what you don't read about is the 1000 other such comments which were... true.

The NBN is not new technology at all and is simply an incremental change to an existing one. Not dissimilar to rebuilding the nations roads and building lane freeways everywhere - including down every suburban street.

but if you are so clever than you too can go to the experience of all these other countries and states etc with a FTTH network in place and tell me of all the amazing industries that have sprung up overnight and all the amazing new technologies that have been developed that cant run on ADSL. You might come up with the amazing revelation that DEloitte came up with that we will be able to do... online shopping. Spare us from the stupidity of such people!

So going from single lane roads to multi-lane express ways was just an 'incremental' change?

Going from copper line technology to fibre is just incremental change?

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Re: Will Malcolm be man enough
Reply #20 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 1:53pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 12:12pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 11:48am:

the difference is that all the above were NEW technologies

One could argue the mobile phone is just an extension of the telephone, the VCR an extension of the 32mm camera.

But hey I don't care, just like EVERYTHING else your against this, not for any real reason but just because Tony is.

If Murdoch turned around tomorrow & saw a $$$ opportunity in the NBN, Tony would build it within his 1st term & hang the cost.
And of course you'd be here telling us what an essential piece of infrastructure this was for the nation & how Labor would never have the vision or guts to do it.

BORING

crap on your idiotic Murdoch and abbott conspiracy theories. it makes you look like sound like and act like a wanker. You should know by now that I hold positions based largely on my own personal preferences and beliefs. I oppose the NBN because it is a largely an uber-expensive exercise in providing very little of substance. And unlike you, I can articulate a position for my belief. Your's amounts to little more than trotting out the Murdoch excuse which is nothing more than a conspiracy-theory that is so implausible as to question your intelligence. Your integrity is already gone.

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Reply #21 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 1:54pm

Cliff48 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 11:48am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 11:37am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 11:28am:

John S wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 7:21am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 6:42am:

and if we didn't have Liberal govts we would never have paid for them meaning we wouldn't be able to afford anything ever again.

Tell my one government that paid for the Trans Australia Railway or the Sydney Opera house that didn't go into debt?

Don't forget that Howard didn't built any infrastructure for Public use. He built the Darwin to Alice Springs railway and sold it as soon as it was finish.

because the railway had purpose and made profit. it had economic benefit. So far the only obviously use for the NBN is faster porn and downloading TV shows.

1. “This ‘telephone’ has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication.” — Western Union internal memo, 1876.

2. “I think there is a world market for maybe five computers.” — Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943. “The world potential market for copying machines is 5,000 at most,” IBM executives to the eventual founders of Xerox, 1959.

3. “Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equipped with 18 000 vacuum tubes and weighs 30 tons, computers of the future may have only 1 000 vacuum tubes and perhaps weigh 1½ tons.” — Popular Mechanics, March 1949

4. “I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone.” — Jack Valenti, MPAA president, testimony to the House of Representatives, 1982

5. “Do not bother to sell your gas shares. The electric light has no future.” —Professor John Henry Pepper, Victorian-era celebrity scientist, sometime in the 1870s

6. “Television won’t be able to hold on to any market it captures after the first six months. People will soon get tired of staring at a plywood box every night,” Darryl Zanuck, 20th Century Fox, 1946.

7. “The problem of TV was that people had to glue their eyes to a screen, and that the average American wouldn’t have time for it.”
− The New York Times, 1939

8. “The subscription model of buying music is bankrupt. I think you could make available the Second Coming in a subscription model and it might not be successful.” Steve Jobs — Rolling Stone, Dec. 3, 2003

9. “Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value.” — Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre

10. “The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay for a message sent to no one in particular?” — Associates of David Sarnoff responding to the latter’s call for investment in the radio in 1921

And now we can add

11. The NBN will only ever be used for Porn & Pirating TV shows - Longweekend58 20/12/2013

the difference is that all the above were NEW technologies and while they sound amusing and embarrassing today what you don't read about is the 1000 other such comments which were... true.

The NBN is not new technology at all and is simply an incremental change to an existing one. Not dissimilar to rebuilding the nations roads and building lane freeways everywhere - including down every suburban street.

but if you are so clever than you too can go to the experience of all these other countries and states etc with a FTTH network in place and tell me of all the amazing industries that have sprung up overnight and all the amazing new technologies that have been developed that cant run on ADSL. You might come up with the amazing revelation that DEloitte came up with that we will be able to do... online shopping. Spare us from the stupidity of such people!

So going from single lane roads to multi-lane express ways was just an 'incremental' change?

Going from copper line technology to fibre is just incremental change?

yes. it is simply another form of cable. better sure, but still a cable that has to be laid and repaired. Incremental.

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Reply #22 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 2:02pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 1:53pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 12:12pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 11:48am:

the difference is that all the above were NEW technologies

One could argue the mobile phone is just an extension of the telephone, the VCR an extension of the 32mm camera.

But hey I don't care, just like EVERYTHING else your against this, not for any real reason but just because Tony is.

If Murdoch turned around tomorrow & saw a $$$ opportunity in the NBN, Tony would build it within his 1st term & hang the cost.
And of course you'd be here telling us what an essential piece of infrastructure this was for the nation & how Labor would never have the vision or guts to do it.

BORING

crap on your idiotic Murdoch and abbott conspiracy theories. it makes you look like sound like and act like a wanker. You should know by now that I hold positions based largely on my own personal preferences and beliefs. I oppose the NBN because it is a largely an uber-expensive exercise in providing very little of substance. And unlike you, I can articulate a position for my belief. Your's amounts to little more than trotting out the Murdoch excuse which is nothing more than a conspiracy-theory that is so implausible as to question your intelligence. Your integrity is already gone.

Mate, take a look

I'm a Ninja cat, in front of a rainbow on a Unicorn with a golden D eagle breathing phucking fire.

I don't need integrity or intelligence.

I'm a BOSS

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Reply #23 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 2:08pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 2:02pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 1:53pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 12:12pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 11:48am:

the difference is that all the above were NEW technologies

One could argue the mobile phone is just an extension of the telephone, the VCR an extension of the 32mm camera.

But hey I don't care, just like EVERYTHING else your against this, not for any real reason but just because Tony is.

If Murdoch turned around tomorrow & saw a $$$ opportunity in the NBN, Tony would build it within his 1st term & hang the cost.
And of course you'd be here telling us what an essential piece of infrastructure this was for the nation & how Labor would never have the vision or guts to do it.

BORING

crap on your idiotic Murdoch and abbott conspiracy theories. it makes you look like sound like and act like a wanker. You should know by now that I hold positions based largely on my own personal preferences and beliefs. I oppose the NBN because it is a largely an uber-expensive exercise in providing very little of substance. And unlike you, I can articulate a position for my belief. Your's amounts to little more than trotting out the Murdoch excuse which is nothing more than a conspiracy-theory that is so implausible as to question your intelligence. Your integrity is already gone.

Mate, take a look

I'm a Ninja cat, in front of a rainbow on a Unicorn with a golden D eagle breathing phucking fire.

I don't need integrity or intelligence.

I'm a BOSS

then you nailed it.

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Reply #25 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 2:54pm

Cost-benefits analysis of the Sydney Opera House? Forget about it. Hardly anyone in Sydney uses the place.

But that building put Sydney - and Australia - on the world map. It helped to transform the way Australians saw themselves back in the 1970s and was part of a cultural revolution.

It's impossible to think of such projects today. Back then, ordinary Australians believed the Opera House was a necessity. The Daily Telegraph rained front page bullets on the waste of funds, but Australians still wanted it, and it survived.

Now, it's one of the most impressive modern buildings in the world. For most, the opera House is useless, but as a shell - as a work of art in itself - it's impossible to imagine Sydney (and Australia) without it. It sings of self confidence, ingenuity, workmanship, and beauty for its own sake.

And I doubt we'll see any projects like it in our lifetime.

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Reply #26 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 3:06pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 2:54pm:

Cost-benefits analysis of the Sydney Opera House? Forget about it. Hardly anyone in Sydney uses the place.

But that building put Sydney - and Australia - on the world map. It helped to transform the way Australians saw themselves back in the 1970s and was part of a cultural revolution.

It's impossible to think of such projects today. Back then, ordinary Australians believed the Opera House was a necessity. The Daily Telegraph rained front page bullets on the waste of funds, but Australians still wanted it, and it survived.

Now, it's one of the most impressive modern buildings in the world. For most, the opera House is useless, but as a shell - as a work of art in itself - it's impossible to imagine Sydney (and Australia) without it. It sings of self confidence, ingenuity, workmanship, and beauty for its own sake.

And I doubt we'll see any projects like it in our lifetime.

Of course we won't
We won't even have the NDIS by 2017, to much money for poor people(as 99% of disabled are).

No Australian tax $$ are much better spent supplying retirees with 3 million in Super with tax breaks is a much smarter move for the Economy & Nation.

Just don't ask anyone to explain why Wink

Now thats out of the way

Lets have some more awesomeness

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Reply #27 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 4:43pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 2:54pm:

Cost-benefits analysis of the Sydney Opera House? Forget about it. Hardly anyone in Sydney uses the place.

But that building put Sydney - and Australia - on the world map. It helped to transform the way Australians saw themselves back in the 1970s and was part of a cultural revolution.

It's impossible to think of such projects today. Back then, ordinary Australians believed the Opera House was a necessity. The Daily Telegraph rained front page bullets on the waste of funds, but Australians still wanted it, and it survived.

Now, it's one of the most impressive modern buildings in the world. For most, the opera House is useless, but as a shell - as a work of art in itself - it's impossible to imagine Sydney (and Australia) without it. It sings of self confidence, ingenuity, workmanship, and beauty for its own sake.

And I doubt we'll see any projects like it in our lifetime.

we built a landmark - not a usable building. it went way, way, way over budget, was behind by a decade and is close to useless as an actual opera house.

why do you think that is such a success?? there is already a call for $100M for repairs to... a useless building. The opera house is actually a perfect example of how to waste money and get nothing in return for it as well.

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Reply #28 - Dec 20^th, 2013 at 4:45pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 3:06pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Dec 20^th, 2013 at 2:54pm:

Cost-benefits analysis of the Sydney Opera House? Forget about it. Hardly anyone in Sydney uses the place.

But that building put Sydney - and Australia - on the world map. It helped to transform the way Australians saw themselves back in the 1970s and was part of a cultural revolution.

It's impossible to think of such projects today. Back then, ordinary Australians believed the Opera House was a necessity. The Daily Telegraph rained front page bullets on the waste of funds, but Australians still wanted it, and it survived.

Now, it's one of the most impressive modern buildings in the world. For most, the opera House is useless, but as a shell - as a work of art in itself - it's impossible to imagine Sydney (and Australia) without it. It sings of self confidence, ingenuity, workmanship, and beauty for its own sake.

And I doubt we'll see any projects like it in our lifetime.

Of course we won't
We won't even have the NDIS by 2017, to much money for poor people(as 99% of disabled are).

No Australian tax $$ are much better spent supplying retirees with 3 million in Super with tax breaks is a much smarter move for the Economy & Nation.

Just don't ask anyone to explain why Wink

Now thats out of the way

Lets have some more awesomeness

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Ive never really understood the philosophy that some has - and you repeat - which is that if you can afford it then you should be penalised and if you are poor you should be rewarded. Supporting the poor is not the same as penalising the rich but alas, most fail to see the distinction. Probably because penalising the rich is usually the primary goal anyhow.

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