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Re: This is what happens to 'moderate' Muslims.
Reply #45 - Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 11:34pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 11:18pm:

They were continued on from my quotes seemlessly. Why do that unless you were misattributing them to me? Roll Eyes

For someone so quick on the trigger to roll eyes at spelling errors in others and question education levels, you need to sort your own poo first Brian.

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Re: This is what happens to 'moderate' Muslims.
Reply #46 - Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 11:39pm

freediver wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 10:44pm:

Your maths is wrong. Or you are just using the wrong numbers. Even if you take into account all the Muslims who reject Shariah law in principle, the majority still want stoning.

I stand corrected - it works out to about 52% support amongst Malaysian muslims. Just barely a majority. But it is certainly not 52% of Malaysians, comprising the entire muslim population as you originally thought.

freediver wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 10:44pm:

All I said was that you are missing the point - they want to stone adulterers to death.

No thats not all you said. If it was, then I would have no issue. I also have a problem with such high numbers supporting this. But then you had to blunder in with your arse-clown hat and hysterically claim "ooh they want to stone disobedient child brides" - oblivious to the fact that child brides don't exist in Malaysia - because they are outlawed.

freediver wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 10:44pm:

Do you have any evidence of this? It doesn't sound like Pew to me, nor does the presentation look like spin.

Did I say it was spin? I even gave you the exact question that was used. I'm merely pointing out that attitudes can change markedly by changing a few words in the question. This is just basic surveys-101. Thus I don't call people barbaric, or "little Hitler's" if they offer ill-considered support for certain barbaric practices - whether it be stoning or drone strikes.

freediver wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 10:44pm:

You still haven't figured out why people object to this whole stoning business have you?

I object to it, so I think I have a pretty good idea.

Have you worked out why some people would take offense to seeing people labelled "little Hitler's" for supporting certain capital punishments yet?

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Re: This is what happens to 'moderate' Muslims.
Reply #47 - Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 11:54pm

freediver wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2013 at 11:24pm:

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I am not afraid to ask a Muslim about anything. I have had quite animated discussions with my Muslim neighbour and fellow workers and students over the years, FD. As usual, you deliberately misconstrue my comments. How unsurprising.

I have seen you interact with Muslims on here.

Really?

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You are afraid to ask them anything even resembling a difficult question, and are eager to accept whatever deflection they offer.

I am? And on what evidence do you base that claim?

You, OTOH are unwilling to accept any explanation from any Muslim which does not reinforce your negative stereotyping of them in some way. I have yet to see you change a single attitude despite being proved wrong on so many occasions by either a Muslim or a sympathiser. Why is that, FD?

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Your Malaysia story is another demonstration of your eagerness to assume the best from Muslims but not actually ask them, to the extent that you reject the evidence off-hand when someone does go to the effort of asking.

FD, I have rejected nothing. I have rather placed it into context. That, that context shows that your misuse of statistics is wrong seems to annoy you for some reason. Ah, if only the world would behave the way you believe it should, hey? Roll Eyes

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I have. Why is it necessary again?

Gandalf has. He got it wrong. I doubt you even know what we are talking about.

Possibly, as you've moved the goalposts so often I'd be surprised if you even knew what was being discussed. Roll Eyes

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They were continued on from my quotes seemlessly. Why do that unless you were misattributing them to me?

I credited you with enough sense to figure which were your own posts.

Immaterial. Please do not do that in future.

It seems that I have upset a Moderator and are forbidden from using memes. So much for Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes