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Reply #15 - Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:33pm

cods wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:07pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 5:32pm:

All those lives and all that money and now after all that to lose this war in such a cowardly way. Howard and Abbott promised they would never cut and run and what did they do?

CUT AND RUN

well it might not mean that much to someone like yourself.. but..

"Oruzgan today is a very significantly different and better place than it was a decade ago," he said.

its worth a try at least..

at least we try to make a place BETTER.. not for ourselves.. for those that live there..under extreme endurance and fear..

I hope we give the Afghan boys a really great welcome home boys..

and the boys that didnt make it..you wont be forgotten.. Cry

cods, this blubber would make every digger I know cringe. These 'boys' as you call them as if they were yours, have been there more than once........most of them have, and they have had a 'welcome home' after every rotation.

We did not go there to make it a better place. We went there because Uncle Sam did. All we did (that which will last more than a couple of years) was make 'big rocks into little rocks.' Yeas, we did indeed build a few useful bits of infrastructure, and we did indeed assist maintain the longest dirt runway in the World.............but puhlease, let's not take it much further than that.

It was us playing Coyboys and Indians, except in this case, the Indians beat us off.

We had zero military goal ~ no-one was there to seek a territorial advantage ~ we were there to poke because our big Mate also wanted to do that because two of his big buildings came to grief, and there is no credible link between Afghanistan and those events.

But, I'm glad we are out............to the extent we truly are.

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Reply #18 - Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:44pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:00pm:

True enough alevine, but I'll bet pounds to peanuts that the ADF is still there. We just will not hear about it anymore.

Why did we go there?

"To make big rocks into little rocks."

Thanks Hayseed.

I doubt it, I'd say US private armies such as Blackwater got those contracts.

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Reply #19 - Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:44pm

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:39pm:

So what did we actually do in Afghanistan?

They made it safer for it's people and planted the seeds for a better future. Schools were built and other infrastructure was built. Educational programs, medical programs, new ideas, political stability, female rights etc etc. Whoever says they did nothing has no idea. The problem will be that the good that was done will be undone by the Taliban and put back into the stone age.

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Reply #20 - Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:46pm

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:00pm:

True enough alevine, but I'll bet pounds to peanuts that the ADF is still there. We just will not hear about it anymore.

Why did we go there?

"To make big rocks into little rocks."

Thanks Hayseed.

I doubt it, I'd say US private armies such as Blackwater got those contracts.

Maybe, even some others I could mention. But, we still have SAS there.

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Reply #21 - Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:47pm

Sparky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:44pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:39pm:

So what did we actually do in Afghanistan?

They made it safer for it's people and planted the seeds for a better future. Schools were built and other infrastructure was built. Educational programs, medical programs, new ideas, political stability, female rights etc etc. Whoever says they did nothing has no idea. The problem will be that the good that was done will be undone by the Taliban and put back into the stone age.

So the answer is nothing?

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Reply #22 - Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:48pm

Sparky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:44pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:39pm:

So what did we actually do in Afghanistan?

They made it safer for it's people and planted the seeds for a better future. Schools were built and other infrastructure was built. Educational programs, medical programs, new ideas, political stability, female rights etc etc. Whoever says they did nothing has no idea. The problem will be that the good that was done will be undone by the Taliban and put back into the stone age.

Yeas exactly. And what did we achieve beyond 'tomorrow' for the locals?

You have already answered my question. Ta.

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Reply #23 - Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:57pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:48pm:

Sparky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:44pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:39pm:

So what did we actually do in Afghanistan?

They made it safer for it's people and planted the seeds for a better future. Schools were built and other infrastructure was built. Educational programs, medical programs, new ideas, political stability, female rights etc etc. Whoever says they did nothing has no idea. The problem will be that the good that was done will be undone by the Taliban and put back into the stone age.

Yeas exactly. And what did we achieve beyond 'tomorrow' for the locals?

You have already answered my question. Ta.

Some of it might stick. I supposed at least they tried. The problem there is religion. Most Afghan's won't follow anybody that isn't a Muslim. I suppose I wouldn't follow any army that came waltzing into my country, especially Christian. It's a pity because the Taliban has obviously nothing to offer but death and sadness.

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Reply #24 - Dec 16^th, 2013 at 7:07pm

Sparky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:57pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:48pm:

Sparky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:44pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:39pm:

So what did we actually do in Afghanistan?

They made it safer for it's people and planted the seeds for a better future. Schools were built and other infrastructure was built. Educational programs, medical programs, new ideas, political stability, female rights etc etc. Whoever says they did nothing has no idea. The problem will be that the good that was done will be undone by the Taliban and put back into the stone age.

Yeas exactly. And what did we achieve beyond 'tomorrow' for the locals?

You have already answered my question. Ta.

Some of it might stick. I supposed at least they tried. The problem there is religion. Most Afghan's won't follow anybody that isn't a Muslim. I suppose I wouldn't follow any army that came waltzing into my country, especially Christian. It's a pity because the Taliban has obviously nothing to offer but death and sadness.

Poor Sparky, at least she meant well..

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Reply #25 - Dec 16^th, 2013 at 7:11pm

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 7:07pm:

Sparky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:57pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:48pm:

Sparky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:44pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:39pm:

So what did we actually do in Afghanistan?

They made it safer for it's people and planted the seeds for a better future. Schools were built and other infrastructure was built. Educational programs, medical programs, new ideas, political stability, female rights etc etc. Whoever says they did nothing has no idea. The problem will be that the good that was done will be undone by the Taliban and put back into the stone age.

Yeas exactly. And what did we achieve beyond 'tomorrow' for the locals?

You have already answered my question. Ta.

Some of it might stick. I supposed at least they tried. The problem there is religion. Most Afghan's won't follow anybody that isn't a Muslim. I suppose I wouldn't follow any army that came waltzing into my country, especially Christian. It's a pity because the Taliban has obviously nothing to offer but death and sadness.

Poor Sparky, at least she meant well..

What's the prob Winston with a Y.

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Reply #27 - Dec 16^th, 2013 at 7:24pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:33pm:

cods wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:07pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 5:32pm:

All those lives and all that money and now after all that to lose this war in such a cowardly way. Howard and Abbott promised they would never cut and run and what did they do?

CUT AND RUN

well it might not mean that much to someone like yourself.. but..

"Oruzgan today is a very significantly different and better place than it was a decade ago," he said.

its worth a try at least..

at least we try to make a place BETTER.. not for ourselves.. for those that live there..under extreme endurance and fear..

I hope we give the Afghan boys a really great welcome home boys..

and the boys that didnt make it..you wont be forgotten.. Cry

cods, this blubber would make every digger I know cringe. These 'boys' as you call them as if they were yours, have been there more than once........most of them have, and they have had a 'welcome home' after every rotation.

We did not go there to make it a better place. We went there because Uncle Sam did. All we did (that which will last more than a couple of years) was make 'big rocks into little rocks.' Yeas, we did indeed build a few useful bits of infrastructure, and we did indeed assist maintain the longest dirt runway in the World.............but puhlease, let's not take it much further than that.

It was us playing Coyboys and Indians, except in this case, the Indians beat us off.

We had zero military goal ~ no-one was there to seek a territorial advantage ~ we were there to poke because our big Mate also wanted to do that because two of his big buildings came to grief, and there is no credible link between Afghanistan and those events.

But, I'm glad we are out............to the extent we truly are.

what a PIG you are.. please dont bother answering anything of mine again.. you are so rude ... a wannabee "know it all.". who in fact knows bugger all..expurt on nothing..

..glad

WE

are out.. amazing I bet you dont even know where it is.. yet you think you have been a part of it.. gross..utterly gross..

go crawl up piggies bum its where hypocrites like you belong.

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Reply #28 - Dec 16^th, 2013 at 7:35pm

Sparky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:57pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:48pm:

Sparky wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:44pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 16^th, 2013 at 6:39pm:

So what did we actually do in Afghanistan?

They made it safer for it's people and planted the seeds for a better future. Schools were built and other infrastructure was built. Educational programs, medical programs, new ideas, political stability, female rights etc etc. Whoever says they did nothing has no idea. The problem will be that the good that was done will be undone by the Taliban and put back into the stone age.

Yeas exactly. And what did we achieve beyond 'tomorrow' for the locals?

You have already answered my question. Ta.

Some of it might stick. I supposed at least they tried. The problem there is religion. Most Afghan's won't follow anybody that isn't a Muslim. I suppose I wouldn't follow any army that came waltzing into my country, especially Christian. It's a pity because the Taliban has obviously nothing to offer but death and sadness.

Never was any of our business. Accept it as fact. Afghanistan is where we and Russia before us 'practice' ground warfare in a barren land.

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Reply #29 - Dec 16^th, 2013 at 7:38pm

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what a PIG you are.. please dont bother answering anything of mine again.. you are so rude ... a wannabee "know it all.". who in fact knows bugger all..expurt on nothing..

..glad
WE
are out.. amazing I bet you dont even know where it is.. yet you think you have been a part of it.. gross..utterly gross..

go crawl up piggies bum its where hypocrites like you belong.

Yeas, cods. I have no idea. Never been there at all.

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