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Reply #60 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:02pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:57pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:52pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:39pm:

Any evidence of blasphemy prosecutions in Germany or Greece peccahead?

Some more evidence for you:

"While blasphemy cases are fairly rare in Germany, one prosecution occurred in 2006 against a man who had distributed rolls of toilet paper that had the words “Koran, the Holy Koran” stamped on them to German mosques and television stations."

http://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/essays/national-laws-on-blasphemy-germany

Too easy.

What was the punishment peccahead?

No idea, and completely irrelevant.

It's not irrelevant peccahead,

Oh, it is.

You asked:

"Any evidence of blasphemy prosecutions in Germany ... ?"

The answer is 'Yes', and I've shown it to you.

I gave you exactly what you asked for.

Anything else, is irrelevant.

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Re: Atheists face death in 13 Islamic countries.
Reply #61 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:05pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:57pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:52pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:39pm:

Any evidence of blasphemy prosecutions in Germany or Greece peccahead?

Some more evidence for you:

"While blasphemy cases are fairly rare in Germany, one prosecution occurred in 2006 against a man who had distributed rolls of toilet paper that had the words “Koran, the Holy Koran” stamped on them to German mosques and television stations."

http://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/essays/national-laws-on-blasphemy-germany

Too easy.

What was the punishment peccahead?

No idea, and completely irrelevant.

You asked:

Can you even comprehend what I asked peccahead?

You asked:

"Any evidence of blasphemy prosecutions in Germany ... ?"

It's there, for everyone to see.

The answer is 'Yes', and I've shown the evidence to you.

I gave you exactly what you asked for, yet you are unwilling to accept the facts.

That's your problem, not mine.

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Re: Atheists face death in 13 Islamic countries.
Reply #62 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:10pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:39pm:

Any evidence of blasphemy prosecutions in Germany ... ?

Plenty.

However, you're not willing to accept it.

"Since 1969, there have only been 10 people convicted of breaking this law".

http://www.dw.com/en/germany-debates-blasphemy-law/a-16253537

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Re: Atheists face death in 13 Islamic countries.
Reply #63 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:42pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:14pm:

... wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 12:40pm:

That Islamic countries treat atheists badly is no surprise .... no one ever said they were the most liberal of peoples ... what surprised me most in the OP, and what most of the Islamaphobes on here have ignored, is the number of western countries that still prosecute atheists.

Disgraceful

I dont believe your "surprise" since the number of western countries that "still prosecute atheists" is 0. I bet you want to challenge that, so go ahead, provide details of these prosecutions, but bear in mind i've already read the wiki page.

When you cant make a point without having to lie, it calls into question all kinds of things, your trustworthiness and convictions on a personal level, but further, it demonstrates that your ideology cannot be supported by the truth, and thus, belongs in the trash.

Ok, prosecute was the wrong word to use , that's no excuse for you being a dickhead but I guess you were born that way

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The situation was severe in Austria, Denmark, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Malta and Poland where blasphemy laws allow for jail sentences up to three years on charges of offending a religion or believers.

How many Islamic countries have the death penalty for blasphemy?

I don't give a crap ... I don't travel to Islamic countries, I travel to Europe. Now why are you pretending it's not a problem as long as people aren't being killed for it?

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Reply #65 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:45pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:14pm:

... wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 12:40pm:

That Islamic countries treat atheists badly is no surprise .... no one ever said they were the most liberal of peoples ... what surprised me most in the OP, and what most of the Islamaphobes on here have ignored, is the number of western countries that still prosecute atheists.

Disgraceful

I dont believe your "surprise" since the number of western countries that "still prosecute atheists" is 0. I bet you want to challenge that, so go ahead, provide details of these prosecutions, but bear in mind i've already read the wiki page.

When you cant make a point without having to lie, it calls into question all kinds of things, your trustworthiness and convictions on a personal level, but further, it demonstrates that your ideology cannot be supported by the truth, and thus, belongs in the trash.

Ok, prosecute was the wrong word to use , that's no excuse for you being a dickhead but I guess you were born that way

from the OP

The situation was severe in Austria, Denmark, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Malta and Poland where blasphemy laws allow for jail sentences up to three years on charges of offending a religion or believers.

How many Islamic countries have the death penalty for blasphemy?

I don't give a crap ... I don't travel to Islamic countries, I travel to Europe. Now why are you pretending it's not a problem as long as people aren't being killed for it?

Simple: it doesn't involve Islam, or Muslims.

You know that, I know that, and the Islamophobes in here all know that.

Blasphemy laws are only bad if they exist in Muslim countries.

In all other countries, they're just a bit of fun.

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Re: Atheists face death in 13 Islamic countries.
Reply #67 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:45pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

It's not irrelevant peccahead, how does a suspended sentence compare to beheading or hanging for blasphemy?

who said they compared?

Not me.

don't you love how they try to twist and turn it into something else every time they get nailed. Grin

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Re: Atheists face death in 13 Islamic countries.
Reply #68 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:54pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:45pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

It's not irrelevant peccahead, how does a suspended sentence compare to beheading or hanging for blasphemy?

who said they compared?

Not me.

don't you love how they try to twist and turn it into something else every time they get nailed. Grin

I do.

It's so amusing to watch.

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Re: Atheists face death in 13 Islamic countries.
Reply #69 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:45pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 2:42pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:14pm:

... wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 1:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 12:40pm:

That Islamic countries treat atheists badly is no surprise .... no one ever said they were the most liberal of peoples ... what surprised me most in the OP, and what most of the Islamaphobes on here have ignored, is the number of western countries that still prosecute atheists.

Disgraceful

I dont believe your "surprise" since the number of western countries that "still prosecute atheists" is 0. I bet you want to challenge that, so go ahead, provide details of these prosecutions, but bear in mind i've already read the wiki page.

When you cant make a point without having to lie, it calls into question all kinds of things, your trustworthiness and convictions on a personal level, but further, it demonstrates that your ideology cannot be supported by the truth, and thus, belongs in the trash.

Ok, prosecute was the wrong word to use , that's no excuse for you being a dickhead but I guess you were born that way

from the OP

The situation was severe in Austria, Denmark, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Malta and Poland where blasphemy laws allow for jail sentences up to three years on charges of offending a religion or believers.

How many Islamic countries have the death penalty for blasphemy?

I don't give a crap ... I don't travel to Islamic countries, I travel to Europe. Now why are you pretending it's not a problem as long as people aren't being killed for it?

Simple: it doesn't involve Islam, or Muslims.

You know that, I know that, and the Islamophobes in here all know that.

Blasphemy laws are only bad if they exist in Muslim countries.

In all other countries, they're just a bit of fun.

Ahh but they do.

Which religion did the german front bottom blaspheme again
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Reply #70 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 6:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 12:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 12:40pm:

... what surprised me most in the OP, and what most of the Islamaphobes on here have ignored, is the number of western countries that still prosecute atheists.

The last I heard, six have prison sentences for blasphemy.

Iceland, New Zealand, Denmark, Germany, Poland, and Greece.

The Islamophobes won't be interested in that, though.

I'm interested, but I'll say upfront that my bullshit detector is ringing loudly.

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Reply #71 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 6:31pm

freediver wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 6:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 12:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 12:40pm:

... what surprised me most in the OP, and what most of the Islamaphobes on here have ignored, is the number of western countries that still prosecute atheists.

The last I heard, six have prison sentences for blasphemy.

Iceland, New Zealand, Denmark, Germany, Poland, and Greece.

The Islamophobes won't be interested in that, though.

I'm interested, but I'll say upfront that my bullshit detector is ringing loudly.

You might need to change the batteries.

"... western countries are rated “Severe” because they can jail people for breaking laws prohibiting ‘blasphemy’ and other free speech on religion.

"Those countries are Iceland (a sentence of jail for up to 3 months), Denmark (up to 4 months), New Zealand (up to a year), Poland (up to two years), Germany (up to three years) and Greece (up to three years). Jail time could be handed to someone who simply “blasphemes God” in the case of Greece, or “insults the content of other’s religious faith” in the case of Germany."

http://iheu.org/you-can-be-put-death-atheism-13-countries-around-world/

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Reply #72 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 7:05pm

freediver wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 6:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 12:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 12:40pm:

... what surprised me most in the OP, and what most of the Islamaphobes on here have ignored, is the number of western countries that still prosecute atheists.

The last I heard, six have prison sentences for blasphemy.

Iceland, New Zealand, Denmark, Germany, Poland, and Greece.

The Islamophobes won't be interested in that, though.

I'm interested, but I'll say upfront that my bullshit detector is ringing loudly.

We could go through each country, one by one.

"In June 2015, the New Zealand parliament, in a retrograde step, and with no justification, created a new crime of denigration of religion with punishments greater than those that previously applied for blasphemous libel under the Crimes Act 1961. In what was a shocking turn of events, people in New Zealand can now face up to two years in prison ... "

http://blasphemy.nz/

(Note: Iceland repealed its blasphemy law on 2nd July 2015.)

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Reply #73 - Jan 11^th, 2016 at 7:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 7:05pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 6:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 12:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2016 at 12:40pm:

... what surprised me most in the OP, and what most of the Islamaphobes on here have ignored, is the number of western countries that still prosecute atheists.

The last I heard, six have prison sentences for blasphemy.

Iceland, New Zealand, Denmark, Germany, Poland, and Greece.

The Islamophobes won't be interested in that, though.

I'm interested, but I'll say upfront that my bullshit detector is ringing loudly.

We could go through each country, one by one.

"In June 2015, the New Zealand parliament, in a retrograde step, and with no justification, created a new crime of denigration of religion with punishments greater than those that previously applied for blasphemous libel under the Crimes Act 1961. In what was a shocking turn of events, people in New Zealand can now face up to two years in prison ... "

http://blasphemy.nz/

(Note: Iceland repealed its blasphemy law on 2nd July 2015.)

Thanks Greggy,

wow - George Carlin would have been in trouble if he went to NZ:

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