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Reply #30 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 12:44pm

In today's Sunday Times, a report that Carnegie Wave Energy is building its first commercial operation off Perth.

The report also mentions a desalination plant as a complementary adjunct. I'm not too sure about desalination, I think it is too early to tell the effects of super-saline water.

There is an update on a dive web-page

http://cdiver.net/2013/12/06/carnegie-provides-perth-project-offshore-construction-pipeline-update/

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Reply #31 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 1:49pm

the Carnegie wave energy project is very promising, but it must be noted that the system is a FIXED system that involves piping underneath the see bed

This is quite different from the normal floating platforms etc, and therefore is far more intrusive on the environment.

(the AFL head, Mike Fitzpatrick is involved at board level with this project)

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Reply #32 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 1:56pm

skippy. wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 3:07pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 2:34pm:

We had a light snow in the mountains day before yesterday.. fire on again... aaaah - the joys of Summer.

But I suppose that, unlike say, a heat wave in Kingaroy or a heap of seasonal rain in Darwin... that is only a local event and has no bearing on the overall picture...

It's funny how the local events that indicate higher temperatures are always valid, but any that indicate lower are not....... might have to talk with a scientist there to see where I'm misreading this....

As for me - the hot.. really hot summer can wait for a while, thanks... I don't do hot well these days.

It always amazes me how the stupid think climate change means warming so when it floods or massive storm fronts create other weather patterns they are confused to the meaning. It also amazes me how these same dumbf,,ks think they know more than the overwhelming majority of the scientific community yet most of them hold down mundane low class low intelligent level jobs. Grin

Climate Change means the addition of HEAT CONTENT to the climate system causing change.

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Reply #33 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 1:59pm

lee wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 12:44pm:

In today's Sunday Times, a report that Carnegie Wave Energy is building its first commercial operation off Perth.

The report also mentions a desalination plant as a complementary adjunct. I'm not too sure about desalination, I think it is too early to tell the effects of super-saline water.

There is an update on a dive web-page

http://cdiver.net/2013/12/06/carnegie-provides-perth-project-offshore-construction-pipeline-update/

Taking their sweet time on this project: GO THE CLEVER COUNTRY Huh

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Reply #34 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 2:03pm

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 5:06pm:

The fact that AGW is now considered real is a victory for truth and reason. The carbon tax was always a terrible idea that can only work in an Orwellian world. If we have a world in which a carbon tax can be upheld, we have more things to worry about than AGW. All isolating AGW has achieved is forcing the polluters to admit they don't care, rather than pretending anymore.

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Reply #36 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 3:11pm

lee wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 2:20pm:

Carnegie's first report, to the ASX, is dated January 2011. It does not seem to be an inordinately long time to go from prototype testing to large scale.

The technology has been around before 2011

Many years of research and development.

And remember, the site of the proposed wave energy plant is near a Military facility/naval base I believe.

Hence the government involvement and funding.

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: We need a carbon tax. GW is real and now Reply #37 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 3:11pm S'pose so!
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: We need a carbon tax. GW is real and now Reply #39 - Dec 9^th, 2013 at 11:12am progressiveslol wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 2:08pm: Global warming is real and its happening now Snow falling. In Australia. In summer.
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: We need a carbon tax. GW is real and now Reply #40 - Dec 9^th, 2013 at 11:28am Soren wrote on Dec 9^th, 2013 at 11:12am: progressiveslol wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 2:08pm: Global warming is real and its happening now Snow falling. In Australia. In summer. http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2013/12/06/1226776/639641-61280220-5dee-11e... Southern hemisphere is colder than Northern!
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Reply #41 - Dec 9^th, 2013 at 1:29pm

Soren wrote on Dec 9^th, 2013 at 11:12am:

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 2:08pm:

Global warming is real and its happening now

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Gee, snow falling in Australia in Summer. I bet that has never happened before. It must mean that Australia is.... cooling... or something. Next thing it will be snowing in the Simpson desert all through Summer? /sarc off

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: We need a carbon tax. GW is real and now Reply #42 - Dec 9^th, 2013 at 3:04pm My ROFLMAO moment: To The Horror Of Global Warming Alarmists, Global Cooling Is Here
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: We need a carbon tax. GW is real and now Reply #43 - Dec 9^th, 2013 at 3:20pm Soren wrote on Dec 9^th, 2013 at 3:04pm: My ROFLMAO moment: To The Horror Of Global Warming Alarmists, Global Cooling Is Here The solaris cycle is certainly weak at the moment but if that is a recognised 200 year cycle then the problem of ghgs still exists by the articles own admission...
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Reply #44 - Dec 9^th, 2013 at 8:14pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 8^th, 2013 at 1:56pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 3:07pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 2:34pm:

We had a light snow in the mountains day before yesterday.. fire on again... aaaah - the joys of Summer.

But I suppose that, unlike say, a heat wave in Kingaroy or a heap of seasonal rain in Darwin... that is only a local event and has no bearing on the overall picture...

It's funny how the local events that indicate higher temperatures are always valid, but any that indicate lower are not....... might have to talk with a scientist there to see where I'm misreading this....

As for me - the hot.. really hot summer can wait for a while, thanks... I don't do hot well these days.

It always amazes me how the stupid think climate change means warming so when it floods or massive storm fronts create other weather patterns they are confused to the meaning. It also amazes me how these same dumbf,,ks think they know more than the overwhelming majority of the scientific community yet most of them hold down mundane low class low intelligent level jobs. Grin

Climate Change means the addition of HEAT CONTENT to the climate system causing change.

Correct. Maybe Soren can hire you to give him lessons in Environmental Science.

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