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Reply #15 - Dec 7^th, 2013 at 3:34pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 3:25pm:

woody2014 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 2:24pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 2:20pm:

Ha ha thats funny, warmies don't care about sh#t like that though, its a religion to them, one devout warmie told me once that global warming is real and now because it snowed in his town last year and thats never happened before, five minutes of googling later I found lots of evidence that it has happened a number of times before even as far back as 100 years ago, had pictures and everything.
Do you think he stood corrected and thanked me for correcting his mistake and calming his unfounded fears regarding global warming ... or do you think he just got angry and called me a planet destroying deniar, what do you reckon Grin

Warmies are a weird mob to be sure Grin

the severe storms in the UK have not happened SINCE 1934 for goodness sake Grin

Those storms, blizzards etc are due to weakening of circumpolar winds, changes in jetstream all due to AGW. England’s supercold winters are an effect of AGW, not a refutation of it!

lol good for you that you have the brainwashed mind of a nat.

Look to the suns, and earths magnetic fields. Its the sun stupid.

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Reply #16 - Dec 7^th, 2013 at 3:51pm

skippy. wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 3:07pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 2:34pm:

We had a light snow in the mountains day before yesterday.. fire on again... aaaah - the joys of Summer.

But I suppose that, unlike say, a heat wave in Kingaroy or a heap of seasonal rain in Darwin... that is only a local event and has no bearing on the overall picture...

It's funny how the local events that indicate higher temperatures are always valid, but any that indicate lower are not....... might have to talk with a scientist there to see where I'm misreading this....

As for me - the hot.. really hot summer can wait for a while, thanks... I don't do hot well these days.

It always amazes me how the stupid think climate change means warming so when it floods or massive storm fronts create other weather patterns they are confused to the meaning. It also amazes me how these same dumbf,,ks think they know more than the overwhelming majority of the scientific community yet most of them hold down mundane low class low intelligent level jobs. Grin

gees has anyone told Gore and Flannery,Rodd Garnaut.that skippoo says it aint got a fing to do with Warm.. or desserts.. or Sydney being to hot to live in.. or MDB never having water in it again..and and and the Sandy Mountain River Hydro.. Cheesy

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so all that crap they have been feeding us.. icebergs melting..ha...talk to SKIPPOO:..he knows more than you lowclass mundane monkeys will ever know. Tongue

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Reply #17 - Dec 7^th, 2013 at 4:10pm

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 3:34pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 3:25pm:

woody2014 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 2:24pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 2:20pm:

Ha ha thats funny, warmies don't care about sh#t like that though, its a religion to them, one devout warmie told me once that global warming is real and now because it snowed in his town last year and thats never happened before, five minutes of googling later I found lots of evidence that it has happened a number of times before even as far back as 100 years ago, had pictures and everything.
Do you think he stood corrected and thanked me for correcting his mistake and calming his unfounded fears regarding global warming ... or do you think he just got angry and called me a planet destroying deniar, what do you reckon Grin

Warmies are a weird mob to be sure Grin

the severe storms in the UK have not happened SINCE 1934 for goodness sake Grin

Those storms, blizzards etc are due to weakening of circumpolar winds, changes in jetstream all due to AGW. England’s supercold winters are an effect of AGW, not a refutation of it!

lol good for you that you have the brainwashed mind of a nat.

Look to the suns, and earths magnetic fields. Its the sun stupid.

Very good—got a link to support that assertion other than crank sites?

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: We need a carbon tax. GW is real and now Reply #18 - Dec 7^th, 2013 at 4:56pm Yeah yeah Skip we all know how it goes... Warming, warming, cooling, dimming, cooling, warming , warming... oh the heck with it... CLIMATE CHANGE.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: We need a carbon tax. GW is real and now Reply #19 - Dec 7^th, 2013 at 4:57pm What we need is more renewable energy and less burning of fossil fuels. I'll let the politicians work out the best way of achieving this.
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Reply #20 - Dec 7^th, 2013 at 5:06pm

The fact that AGW is now considered real is a victory for truth and reason. The carbon tax was always a terrible idea that can only work in an Orwellian world. If we have a world in which a carbon tax can be upheld, we have more things to worry about than AGW. All isolating AGW has achieved is forcing the polluters to admit they don't care, rather than pretending anymore.

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Reply #21 - Dec 7^th, 2013 at 6:00pm

Grendel wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

Yeah yeah Skip we all know how it goes...

Warming, warming, cooling, dimming, cooling, warming , warming... oh the heck with it... CLIMATE CHANGE. Roll Eyes

Yes, that right, Warming, Cooling, Warming, Cooling, IT'S ALL HAPPENED BEFORE, OVER & OVER, AS THE FOLLOWING CHART SHOWS.

Well, that's not quite all, because WE HUMANS have only been here in large numbers for a very limited time (around 200 years @ 1 Billion + Globally) and for us to survive WE NEED a GOLDILOCKS CLIMATE, which is NO TOO HOT & NOT TOO COLD!

Anything outside of that small Goldilocks range and we will struggle to avoid extinction!

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Reply #22 - Dec 7^th, 2013 at 6:20pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 3:25pm:

woody2014 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 2:24pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 2:20pm:

Ha ha thats funny, warmies don't care about sh#t like that though, its a religion to them, one devout warmie told me once that global warming is real and now because it snowed in his town last year and thats never happened before, five minutes of googling later I found lots of evidence that it has happened a number of times before even as far back as 100 years ago, had pictures and everything.
Do you think he stood corrected and thanked me for correcting his mistake and calming his unfounded fears regarding global warming ... or do you think he just got angry and called me a planet destroying deniar, what do you reckon Grin

Warmies are a weird mob to be sure Grin

the severe storms in the UK have not happened SINCE 1934 for goodness sake Grin

Those storms, blizzards etc are due to weakening of circumpolar winds, changes in jetstream all due to AGW. England’s supercold winters are an effect of AGW, not a refutation of it!

which is a stupid comment since UKs cold ISNT record cold just colder than the last 70 years despite the predictions of hysterics to the contrary.

you really sound rather silly and fanatical when you claim cooling, heating, drought, rain etc all as proof of the same thing.

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Reply #23 - Dec 7^th, 2013 at 6:23pm

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 5:06pm:

The fact that AGW is now considered real is a victory for truth and reason. The carbon tax was always a terrible idea that can only work in an Orwellian world. If we have a world in which a carbon tax can be upheld, we have more things to worry about than AGW. All isolating AGW has achieved is forcing the polluters to admit they don't care, rather than pretending anymore.

considered 'real' by whom??? a handful of scientists and lackey politicians? spare me. the ultimate PROOF is that of climate itself which has resolutely refused to warm over the last 17 years. extreme weather events are at the same level for the past 100 years. the poles refuse to melt and sea levels continue their rapid unbelievable rise of 10cm.

in related news, physicists are now claiming the science of matter is settled and there are FOUR elements in all the universe. oops... they got that one wrong too.

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Reply #24 - Dec 7^th, 2013 at 6:55pm

cods wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 3:51pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 3:07pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 2:34pm:

We had a light snow in the mountains day before yesterday.. fire on again... aaaah - the joys of Summer.

But I suppose that, unlike say, a heat wave in Kingaroy or a heap of seasonal rain in Darwin... that is only a local event and has no bearing on the overall picture...

It's funny how the local events that indicate higher temperatures are always valid, but any that indicate lower are not....... might have to talk with a scientist there to see where I'm misreading this....

As for me - the hot.. really hot summer can wait for a while, thanks... I don't do hot well these days.

It always amazes me how the stupid think climate change means warming so when it floods or massive storm fronts create other weather patterns they are confused to the meaning. It also amazes me how these same dumbf,,ks think they know more than the overwhelming majority of the scientific community yet most of them hold down mundane low class low intelligent level jobs. Grin

gees has anyone told Gore and Flannery,Rodd Garnaut.that skippoo says it aint got a fing to do with Warm.. or desserts.. or Sydney being to hot to live in.. or MDB never having water in it again..and and and the Sandy Mountain River Hydro.. Cheesy

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so all that crap they have been feeding us.. icebergs melting..ha...talk to SKIPPOO:..he knows more than you lowclass mundane monkeys will ever know. Tongue

Exhibit A, a "special" person with no idea of the difference between climate and weather, even though it's been explained hundreds of times.

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Reply #25 - Dec 7^th, 2013 at 6:58pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 6:23pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 5:06pm:

The fact that AGW is now considered real is a victory for truth and reason. The carbon tax was always a terrible idea that can only work in an Orwellian world. If we have a world in which a carbon tax can be upheld, we have more things to worry about than AGW. All isolating AGW has achieved is forcing the polluters to admit they don't care, rather than pretending anymore.

considered 'real' by whom??? a handful of scientists and lackey politicians? spare me. the ultimate PROOF is that of climate itself which has resolutely refused to warm over the last 17 years. extreme weather events are at the same level for the past 100 years. the poles refuse to melt and sea levels continue their rapid unbelievable rise of 10cm.

in related news, physicists are now claiming the science of matter is settled and there are FOUR elements in all the universe. oops... they got that one wrong too.

Like this wonderful concensus and it is right there to be missed by our very eyes, not even some pathetic environmentalist had to hide it.

Its there, reproducable and still....................

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Reply #26 - Dec 7^th, 2013 at 7:00pm

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 3:34pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 3:25pm:

woody2014 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 2:24pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 2:20pm:

Ha ha thats funny, warmies don't care about sh#t like that though, its a religion to them, one devout warmie told me once that global warming is real and now because it snowed in his town last year and thats never happened before, five minutes of googling later I found lots of evidence that it has happened a number of times before even as far back as 100 years ago, had pictures and everything.
Do you think he stood corrected and thanked me for correcting his mistake and calming his unfounded fears regarding global warming ... or do you think he just got angry and called me a planet destroying deniar, what do you reckon Grin

Warmies are a weird mob to be sure Grin

the severe storms in the UK have not happened SINCE 1934 for goodness sake Grin

Those storms, blizzards etc are due to weakening of circumpolar winds, changes in jetstream all due to AGW. England’s supercold winters are an effect of AGW, not a refutation of it!

lol good for you that you have the brainwashed mind of a nat.

Look to the suns, and earths magnetic fields. Its the sun stupid.

Yes dear, we all know you think the gulf stream is a fish pond on the eighteenth hole of your local golf course. Roll Eyes

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Reply #27 - Dec 7^th, 2013 at 7:54pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 6:23pm:

Winston Smith wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 5:06pm:

The fact that AGW is now considered real is a victory for truth and reason. The carbon tax was always a terrible idea that can only work in an Orwellian world. If we have a world in which a carbon tax can be upheld, we have more things to worry about than AGW. All isolating AGW has achieved is forcing the polluters to admit they don't care, rather than pretending anymore.

considered 'real' by whom??? a handful of scientists and lackey politicians? spare me. the ultimate PROOF is that of climate itself which has resolutely refused to warm over the last 17 years. extreme weather events are at the same level for the past 100 years. the poles refuse to melt and sea levels continue their rapid unbelievable rise of 10cm.

in related news, physicists are now claiming the science of matter is settled and there are FOUR elements in all the universe. oops... they got that one wrong too.

More relevant people than you.

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Reply #28 - Dec 7^th, 2013 at 8:29pm

muso wrote on Dec 7^th, 2013 at 4:57pm:

What we need is more renewable energy and less burning of fossil fuels. I'll let the politicians work out the best way of achieving this.

The current crop of corporatized puppet politicians are the last people you'd want to take hold of the reigns on this important issue

Genuine leaders are needed - leaders who understand what is at stake and the global time frame available for humanity to respond.

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Reply #29 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 7:40am

Yes? The previous lot were worse. There is nothing more repugnant than socialism in its worse form masquerading as environmentalism.

There is a real environmental crisis. The last thing we need is a bunch of watermelon greens (red in the centre) singing kumbaya and smoking pot while blissfully handing out our money to undeveloped countries.

That money should be used for constructive purposes within Australia, like developing a renewable energy infrastructure.

The best approach is to go green and prosper - the Eco Capitalist (Blue green) route. I don't trust socialists with that very important task.

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