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We need a carbon tax. GW is real and now
Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:08pm
 
Global warming is real and its happening now

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John Coook and skeptical science, eat your heart out.

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Reply #1 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:18pm
 
Just to give an immediate view on how bad the skeptics are  Wink

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Reply #3 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:20pm
 
Ha ha thats funny, warmies don't care about sh#t like that though, its a religion to them, one devout warmie told me once that global warming is real and now because it snowed in his town last year and thats never happened before, five minutes of googling later I found lots of evidence that it has happened a number of times before even as far back as 100 years ago, had pictures and everything.
Do you think he stood corrected and thanked me for correcting his mistake and calming his unfounded fears regarding global warming ... or do you think he just got angry and called me a planet destroying deniar, what do you reckon  Grin
Warmies are a weird mob to be sure  Grin
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Reply #4 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:24pm
 
Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:20pm:
Ha ha thats funny, warmies don't care about sh#t like that though, its a religion to them, one devout warmie told me once that global warming is real and now because it snowed in his town last year and thats never happened before, five minutes of googling later I found lots of evidence that it has happened a number of times before even as far back as 100 years ago, had pictures and everything.
Do you think he stood corrected and thanked me for correcting his mistake and calming his unfounded fears regarding global warming ... or do you think he just got angry and called me a planet destroying deniar, what do you reckon  Grin
Warmies are a weird mob to be sure  Grin


the severe storms in the UK have not happened SINCE 1934  FFS        Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #6 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:31pm
 
skippy. wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:28pm:

Thanks for your input skip.

So the AGW isn't a church, a religion of loons, it is one big wank fest.

Interesting take there skip. Ill keep it in mind.
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Reply #7 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:34pm
 
We had a light snow in the mountains day before yesterday.. fire on again... aaaah - the joys of Summer.

But I suppose that, unlike say, a heat wave in Kingaroy or a heap of seasonal rain in Darwin... that is only a local event and has no bearing on the overall picture...

It's funny how the local events that indicate higher temperatures are always valid, but any that indicate lower are not....... might have to talk with a scientist there to see where I'm misreading  this....

As for me - the hot.. really hot summer can wait for a while, thanks... I don't do hot well these days.
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Reply #8 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:45pm
 
This discusses a short, but very effective and dramatic demo to show the effect on temperature of increased levels of carbon dioxide.




sorry greenhouse gas deniers, well that's not true …  here to burst your bubble of ignorance.

Humans can and are driving the climate through our activity.
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Reply #9 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:47pm
 
____ wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:45pm:
This discusses a short, but very effective and dramatic demo to show the effect on temperature of increased levels of carbon dioxide.




sorry greenhouse gas deniers, well that's not true …  here to burst your bubble of ignorance.

Humans can and are driving the climate through our activity.








Well thats enough to convince me, I'm joining Greenpeace now ...  ... ...
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Reply #10 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:51pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:08pm:
Global warming is real and its happening now

Wink Grin

John Coook and skeptical science, eat your heart out.


Hehehe PL.  You keep posting these. Like the guy in the video you come across really desperate to convince yourself.
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Reply #11 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:52pm
 
Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:47pm:
____ wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:45pm:
This discusses a short, but very effective and dramatic demo to show the effect on temperature of increased levels of carbon dioxide.




sorry greenhouse gas deniers, well that's not true …  here to burst your bubble of ignorance.

Humans can and are driving the climate through our activity.








Well thats enough to convince me, I'm joining Greenpeace now http://d26ya5yqg8yyvs.cloudfront.net/ImaPoser.gif  http://d26ya5yqg8yyvs.cloudfront.net/ImaPoser.gif http://d26ya5yqg8yyvs.cloudfront.net/ImaPoser.gif




Thats good considering all the bullshite threads you start for the denial of basic science.

Another angle to help to drag other denalist out of their ignorance is acidity of the oceans.

Rise in ocean acidity makes fish anxious, study finds


Ocean acidification could alter the behavior of fish and make them more anxious, a new study says.

The finding came in an experiment by researchers interested in the neurological effects of the shift in the chemistry of seawater that is happening as the ocean takes up carbon dioxide that has built up in the Earth’s atmosphere from human activity.


http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-fish-anxiety-ocean-acidifica...
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Reply #12 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:57pm
 
Living in Sydney by the end of the century will be like living in Rockhampton, subtropical Queensland, if global temperatures are allowed to rise by four degrees - the current trajectory of climate change.

Melbourne's climate will be akin to Griffith in regional NSW and Canberra will feel like outback Cobar.

Alice Springs will mirror modern-day Sudan, while Darwin will be like no other city on earth in 2013. The Top End would be virtually uninhabitable, with more than 300 days a year of 35-plus degree heat.

The downside to warmer winters on the eastern seaboard in 2100 is the prospect of "anarchy" in our region prompted by the dislocation of 250 million people from the Asia-Pacific, climate refugees who will need to be resettled in part in Australia.

The "profound" shift in living conditions as a result of climate change is raised in Four Degrees of Global Warming: Australia in a hot world, a compilation of climate science literature to be launched in Melbourne on Wednesday.

The book explores the dire changes that are likely to accompany four degrees of warming on 1990 levels, including Australia becoming reliant on food imports as a result of a 90 per cent decline in agricultural production in the Murray-Darling food bowl.

Other consequences include:

250,000 coastal properties inundated by rising sea levels at a total cost of $63 billion
17,200 heat-related deaths a year - up from 5800 today
Snow will disappear from all but the highest alpine peaks
250 million people in the Asia-Pacific will be displaced.
The mass exodus from low-lying Bangladesh and coastal cities of China, Indonesia and India poses perhaps the biggest challenge for Australia, which could face a wave of climate refugees on a scale that would dwarf the current asylum seeker crisis.

In a chapter written by Professor Ross Garnaut, the prospect of "anarchy" and the breakdown of nation states is raised.

"Warming of 4 degrees celsius and more would precipitate such large change in global politics as to force the reshaping of national boundaries," Garnaut writes. "It may lead to a small number of more effective states combating anarchy by absorbing others.

"The survival of states with anything like the current boundaries and roles would be one of the less likely eventualities."

Professor Garnaut believes there is "still a chance that global mitigation efforts will hold global warming to two degrees" as long as countries are willing to turn up to the Paris climate change conference in 2015, prepared to commit to deep emissions cuts post-2020.

The book's main author, Peter Christoff, an Associate Professor at Melbourne University said Australia would need to swap its five per cent emissions reduction target to 38 per cent within 10 years to keep warming under two degrees.

"It's inappropriate for us to wait for a global agreement. Delaying is going to be more costly and less efficient. There's no point in delay," he told Fairfax Media.

"We have about a decade."

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/stifling-heat-anarchy-refu...

This is the path climate denialists like Abbott want for Oz.

Abbott isn't only an economic illiterate, he is a science illiterate as well. One thing people can say about him, he is consistent in his ignorance.
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Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:34pm:
We had a light snow in the mountains day before yesterday.. fire on again... aaaah - the joys of Summer.

But I suppose that, unlike say, a heat wave in Kingaroy or a heap of seasonal rain in Darwin... that is only a local event and has no bearing on the overall picture...

It's funny how the local events that indicate higher temperatures are always valid, but any that indicate lower are not....... might have to talk with a scientist there to see where I'm misreading  this....

As for me - the hot.. really hot summer can wait for a while, thanks... I don't do hot well these days.

It always amazes me how the stupid think climate change means warming so when it floods or massive storm fronts create other weather patterns they are confused to the meaning. It also amazes me how these same dumbf,,ks think they know more than the overwhelming majority of the scientific community yet most of them hold down mundane low class low intelligent level jobs. Grin
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Reply #14 - Dec 7th, 2013 at 3:25pm
 
woody2014 wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:24pm:
Innocent bystander wrote on Dec 7th, 2013 at 2:20pm:
Ha ha thats funny, warmies don't care about sh#t like that though, its a religion to them, one devout warmie told me once that global warming is real and now because it snowed in his town last year and thats never happened before, five minutes of googling later I found lots of evidence that it has happened a number of times before even as far back as 100 years ago, had pictures and everything.
Do you think he stood corrected and thanked me for correcting his mistake and calming his unfounded fears regarding global warming ... or do you think he just got angry and called me a planet destroying deniar, what do you reckon  Grin
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the severe storms in the UK have not happened SINCE 1934  for goodness sake        Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Those storms, blizzards etc are due to weakening of circumpolar winds, changes in jetstream all due to AGW. England’s supercold winters are an effect of AGW, not a refutation of it!
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