namnugenot wrote on Jan 3
rd, 2014 at 11:47am:
# wrote on Dec 30
th, 2013 at 12:15pm:
namnugenot wrote on Dec 30
th, 2013 at 10:11am:
# wrote on Dec 30
th, 2013 at 9:59am:
namnugenot wrote on Dec 30
th, 2013 at 9:41am:
The science is in...nuclear is safe...the top climate scientists agree
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In what proportion?
It seems to me that, among the best qualified, there's more substantial disagreement on nuclear than there is on Anthropogenic Global Warming.
For mine, nuclear is less a solution than a different set of problems.
Not quite sure of the the exact scientific basis and parameters of "It seems to me" and "for mine"...
So you're confused. At least you're consistent.
I take it you have no clue about the proportion of Climate scientists who advocate nuclear. What's the point of a datum if you're ignorant of its significance?
You're a dishonest fraud. Not confused at all just wanting you to define the scientific basis of ":It seems to me" and "for mine" as these are terms that oddly enough don't come up in scientific papers. You might like to answer a question yourself. Blah, Blah, Blah...."97% of the World's Climate Scientists support AGW". You have a funny idea of what constitutes the world and the validity of selectively sent (so not random) volunteer surveys. What proportion came from the USA and Canada?
Surveys can be used to support just about any conclusion (if one does enough of them, pre-load the questions and select favourable demographics etc)
In the USA for example a petition was circulating that had 37,000 signatures of scientists who disputed the science of AGW and climate change.
Sounds impressive?
Not really.
There are at least 7 million US civilians with degrees in science, and a big proportion of these are employed by fossil fuel industry and many of its spin off industries such as the vehicle sector etc.
That survey turned out to be an internal petition within the fossil fuel industry so 37,000 signatures isn't that meaningful. It would be like asking scientists within the environmental movement whether forests should be cleared for mining etc.
Surveys can be carried out using fundamental scientific, psychological and statistical principles incorporating random samples of meaningful size.
The other approach to take is to look at the official position of the major scientific organisations, societies, associations and Universities, research organisations etc.
You will find that in today's world there isn't one major scientific organisation that refutes the science that underpins AGW and climate change.
And most importantly ALL the fossil fuel related corporations have recognised the linked between human induced rising CO2 levels and global warming.
I suggest that you dig up the joint public declaration made by the major global fossil fuel corporations in the early 2000s (roughly 2003). Not only did they publically recognise the dangers of AGW but they recommended urgent action on a global level to mitigate the effects of climate change.
(And of course these corporate giants already knew from their own internal technical departments and research, that AGW was a serious issue. Through various pressure points, which included their own shareholders, they were compelled to make a joint public statement.)