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Climate change: a voice from the front line (Read 4556 times)

muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Climate change: a voice from the front line Reply #30 - Nov 29^th, 2013 at 6:35am BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 28^th, 2013 at 11:31pm: How much does lee charge for tutoring? You too could have an NFI (hons) in Climatology.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18856 Gender:	Re: Climate change: a voice from the front line Reply #31 - Nov 29^th, 2013 at 10:45am Of course for a calculation based on measurement and observation must have both the measurement and the observation "True", for the calculation to be "True". Are we talking Conventional or Electron flow theory?
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Climate change: a voice from the front line Reply #32 - Nov 29^th, 2013 at 4:56pm Lol, is lee trying to have a conversation or go over everyone's head?
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Reply #33 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 9:59am

lee wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 10:45am:

Of course for a calculation based on measurement and observation must have both the measurement and the observation "True", for the calculation to be "True".

Are we talking Conventional or Electron flow theory?

To help you release your current brain knot, virtually all measurements have a calculation component. Even with measuring electrical current, the dimensions in the coils of the meter must be calculated and the properties of the conducting material must be included in that calculation.

To say that it's a calculation and not a measurement is disingenuous, perhaps not on your part, but on the part of Anthony Watts, who has the intelligence to know better. (Intelligence and dishonesty generally don't work well together.)

The deconstruction process starts by dismissing a measurement as a calculation, then by equating a calculation with a model. Very shonky indeed.

Radiative forcing is a measurement.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18856 Gender:	Re: Climate change: a voice from the front line Reply #34 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 2:24pm Which came first the chicken or the egg? Was a calculation down and then a meter built? Did we have a meter that served no purpose until we came up with the idea of measuring current flow and potential difference?
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Climate change: a voice from the front line Reply #35 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 2:26pm The idea always comes first.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18856 Gender:	Re: Climate change: a voice from the front line Reply #36 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 7:10pm And then? The calculation or the meter?
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Reply #37 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 9:20pm

lee wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 2:24pm:

Which came first the chicken or the egg? Was a calculation down and then a meter built? Did we have a meter that served no purpose until we came up with the idea of measuring current flow and potential difference?

Lol, you're circling around the uncertainty principle whilst pretending not to! Grin

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Climate change: a voice from the front line Reply #38 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 12:01pm lee wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 7:10pm: And then? The calculation or the meter? Refer to Reply 33.
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