Soren wrote on Nov 20^th, 2013 at 1:57pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 20^th, 2013 at 2:12pm:


Saddam - hanging was too good for him.

And looking at Iraq now, he was too good for Iraq.

When  he was overthrown, that was the actual first day of the Arab Spring.
And they buggered it up, needless to say.
Come to think of it, is there anything in the last 50-100 years that the Muslims Arab haven't turned into a complete balls up? I can't think of anything but I am sure you have numerous achievement at your fingertips, PB.

Tell me Soren, would you negotiate while someone was killing your citizens?   

What I've always found interesting is that the US upon several occasions before 11 September actually refused offers to hand over Usama bin Laden to them, from both the Afghani and Sudanese governments.

Abdulaziz Alomari

Abdulaziz Alomari was identified by the FBI as the hijacker who accompanied Mohamed Atta from the connecting flight from Portland and helped him hijack and pilot Flight 11 into the North Tower. Abdulaziz told the London-based Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper: "The name [listed by the FBI] is my name and the birth date is the same as mine, but I am not the one who bombed the World Trade Center in New York." 3   Saudi Embassy officials in Washington defended the innocence of Alomari, saying that his passport was stolen in 1996 and that he had reported the theft to the police. 4   

Saeed Alghamdi

Saeed Alghamdi, a Saudi Airlines pilot, was identified by the FBI of being a hijacker of Flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania. Alghamdi was "shocked and furious" to learn this three days after the attack, noting that his name, place of residence, date of birth, and occupation matched those described by the FBI. "You cannot imagine what it is like to be described as a terrorist - and a dead man - when you are innocent and alive," said Alghamdi, who considered legal action against the FBI. 5   

Salem Al-Hamzi

Al-Hamzi was identified by the FBI as one of the hijackers of Flight 77, thought to have crashed into the Pentagon. Al-Hamzi said: "I have never been to the United States and have not been out of Saudi Arabia in the past two years." 6   

Ahmed Al-Nami

Al-Nami was identified by the FBI as one of the hijackers of Flight 93. Al-Nami said: "I'm still alive, as you can see. I was shocked to see my name mentioned by the American Justice Department. I had never even heard of Pennsylvania where the plane I was supposed to have hijacked." 7   

Waleed Alshehri

Waleed Alshehri, a Saudi Arabian pilot, was identified by the FBI as one of the hijackers of Flight 11. Alshehri turned up in Morocco after the attack where he contacted both the Saudi and American authorities to tell them he was not involved in the attack. 8   9   

Abdulrahman al-Omari

Abdulrahman al-Omari, a Saudi Airlines pilot, was identified by the FBI as one of the hijackers of Flight 11. After learning this, he visited the US consulate in Jeddah to demand an explanation. 10   

Ameer and Adnan Bukhari

Ameer and Adnan Bukhari were named by CNN as suspected hijackers of Flight 175, the jetliner which crashed into the South Tower, in an article dated 9/13/01. In a correction, CNN stated that Ameer Bukhari died in a small plane crash in Florida, and that Adnan was still alive in Florida, having passed a polygraph test to confirm his innocence. 11   

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 20^th, 2013 at 9:21pm:

Bollocks

wally1 wrote on Nov 21^st, 2013 at 5:19am:

Soren wrote on Nov 20^th, 2013 at 8:30pm:


*Taliban made repeated offers to have Bin Laden put on trial prior to 11/9/2001
*Taliban made repeated offers to hand over Bin Laden after 11/9/2001
*Taliban offered to Hand over Bin Laden before US bombing campaign began.
*Taliban offered to hand over Bin Laden even after US bombing campaign began.
*US rejects all negotiations with Taliban - even before 11/9/2001
*Bin Laden lives free to lead al-Qaeda for nearly one more decade because of US rejection of Taliban offers.

Conclusion: Bush did not really want to get Bin Laden. Bush was Born-again Christian nutter on a crusade





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True Colours wrote on Nov 21^st, 2013 at 9:55am:



Bollocks.


You have shown only that they offered to put him on trial in Afghanistan, before a sharia court under the supervision of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference.

They never offered him to the US.  They considered asking Bin Laden to leave voluntarily. But never actually asked him.