Australian Politics Forum - 122% Wind Power?

muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: 122% Wind Power? Reply #15 - Nov 17^th, 2013 at 7:29pm lee wrote on Nov 17^th, 2013 at 7:14pm: Couldn't see anything there on neodymium. I may have missed it; but I don't think so. CHina seems to have a pollution problem that Western countries regulated out years ago. Just because there is some local pollution doesn't mean that it's inevitable.
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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 19320 Gender:	Re: 122% Wind Power? Reply #16 - Nov 17^th, 2013 at 8:26pm And China is the source of most manufacturing. It still doesn't make it Green.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: 122% Wind Power? Reply #17 - Nov 17^th, 2013 at 8:29pm It makes it much less of a problem. Local environmental harm is less serious than regional, which is less serious than global.
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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 19320 Gender:	Re: 122% Wind Power? Reply #18 - Nov 17^th, 2013 at 9:37pm Seems like NIMBYism
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: 122% Wind Power? Reply #19 - Nov 17^th, 2013 at 9:52pm lee wrote on Nov 17^th, 2013 at 9:37pm: Seems like NIMBYism Reverse Nimbyism. The Chinese Manufacturers are grots. No other countries make that kind of mess and get off with it. Sooner or later they will put in pollution control. They probably have already in some cases.
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Reply #20 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 2:28am

# wrote on Nov 17^th, 2013 at 6:49pm:

If anyone is genuinely interested, Barnard on Wind pretty effectively addresses common objections to wind power;

You know that when they start out with "Much of the disinformation is spread by astroturf organizations funded by mid-sized, undiversified, fossil fuel companies and their billionaire owners." you can pretty well discount any further information as just the rantings of a paranoid conspiracy theory freak Grin

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Reply #21 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 7:14am

Innocent bystander wrote on Nov 18^th, 2013 at 2:28am:

# wrote on Nov 17^th, 2013 at 6:49pm:

If anyone is genuinely interested, Barnard on Wind pretty effectively addresses common objections to wind power;

You know that when they start out with "Much of the disinformation is spread by astroturf organizations funded by mid-sized, undiversified, fossil fuel companies and their billionaire owners." you can pretty well discount any further information as just the rantings of a paranoid conspiracy theory freak Grin

Correction, hash and the ragtag eco socialists here would immediately stop reading if their sources didn't start with exactly this type of paranoid conspiracy theory lead.

It makes them feel that god is on their side, and he'll be sending a storm or a flood, some locusts, or some other form of pestilence to the front door of any non believer as soon as practicable (or as soon as the tax payer funded grants can be accessed) Grin

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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: 122% Wind Power? Reply #22 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 11:07am Global warming make people go cwazy
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Chimp_Logic Gold Member Offline πολιτικός Posts: 4826 Mawson Base Gender:	Re: 122% Wind Power? Reply #23 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 11:15am
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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 19320 Gender:	Re: 122% Wind Power? Reply #24 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 12:26pm Apparently Australia is at fault for selling coal to the Chinese, and it's our fault that the Chinese manufacture items that we want but no longer manufacture. But it's the fault of the Chinese for manufacturing neodymium magnets that the world wants.
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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: 122% Wind Power? Reply #25 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 2:33pm lee wrote on Nov 18^th, 2013 at 12:26pm: ... it's the fault of the Chinese for manufacturing neodymium magnets ... OK, so your obsession is with neodymium. I should probably ask which wingnut blog you got that from, but I'm really not interested. Rare earths: wind power industry NOT a major user
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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 19320 Gender:	Re: 122% Wind Power? Reply #26 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 4:53pm It's called research. And that you are not interested is a sign of the times.
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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: 122% Wind Power? Reply #27 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 7:11pm lee wrote on Nov 18^th, 2013 at 4:53pm: It's called research. And that you are not interested is a sign of the times. OK, which blog?
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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6490 Gender:	Re: 122% Wind Power? Reply #28 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 7:25pm Wow all the brilliant minds on this site should get together and develop a decent power storage system. That would solve a lot of the problems with renewables.
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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: 122% Wind Power? Reply #29 - Nov 18^th, 2013 at 7:46pm miketrees wrote on Nov 18^th, 2013 at 7:25pm: Wow all the brilliant minds on this site should get together and develop a decent power storage system. ... The world is way ahead of you.
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