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Reply #15 - Nov 7th, 2013 at 2:10am
 
muso wrote on Nov 6th, 2013 at 9:26pm:
It would be interesting to see what James Lovelock actually said. The Daily Mirror has a knack of misquoting people.

Even at 92, he's too sharp to have said that there has been no warming since 98. I remember that he specifically talked about increasing ocean heat uptake on one of his recent interviews.

Remember that the Daily Mirror brought to you the famous headline "IPCC admits it was wrong" when they did nothing of the sort.  I think the Mirror is the original source of this paid editorial.

In economics the indicators sometimes simply aren't sensitive to the problem. I thought lovelock was saying the rate of expected change simply wasn't there in certain indicators... raising questions of course but what questions does he feel need answering first i would like to know!
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Re: Climate change alarmist warnings all hot air
Reply #16 - Nov 7th, 2013 at 6:40am
 
I've read through Lovelock's home page. I think most of it was related to his book "The Revenge of Gaia" in which he said:

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...billions of us will die and the few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in the Arctic where the climate remains tolerable” by the end of the 21st century.


Nobody else, and certainly not the IPCC would endorse such a prediction. So in that respect, he was going overboard.

The only problem is that the denialist bloggers have decided that he's throwing the baby out with the bathwater. He has said himself that he's not a climate science denier. He's just correcting some of his wilder claims.

Personally I think that the world would act on climate change before it got to that stage. They are already acting on it.  The US for example, has reduced carbon emissions to pre 1990 levels. China has enough renewable energy to power the whole of Australia twice over.   

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Reply #17 - Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:08am
 
muso wrote on Nov 6th, 2013 at 9:26pm:
It would be interesting to see what James Lovelock actually said. ...

As far as I can tell this is the source. It's from an April 2012 telephone interview Lovelock gave to MSNBC, promoting his next book.
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Reply #18 - Nov 7th, 2013 at 11:49am
 
# wrote on Nov 7th, 2013 at 10:08am:
muso wrote on Nov 6th, 2013 at 9:26pm:
It would be interesting to see what James Lovelock actually said. ...

As far as I can tell this is the source. It's from an April 2012 telephone interview Lovelock gave to MSNBC, promoting his next book.


Lovelock has a strong faith in his Gaia mechanism, a mechanism which will respond to anything humans can throw at it - after all humans are intrinsically part of the Gaia reality (in Lovelock's eyes).

What is often NOT quoted by Lovelock is his view that should humanity introduce perturbations and contaminations which are extreme and severe to the Gaia response mechanism, then humanity itself can be cleansed from the surface of this planet quite easily.

Lovelock's Gaia reality does not need humanity!
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