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Nuclear prices itself out of market (Read 4878 times)
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Re: Nuclear prices itself out of market
Reply #45 - Nov 4th, 2013 at 3:55pm
 
# wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 2:31pm:
Yes, well:-

Hardly among the most credible of sources.

I listen to the best. You put faith in the rest.

You've given no reason to suppose that you know any more of the science than I do. Quite the opposite, in fact. Yet you assert that the science is "full of holes". You're keen to believe that, but lack the skills to make the assessment.


There is no denying the truth.....no matter how you try and wrap it................!!!!!!!


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The claim that “97% of scientists agree” is based on 77 anonymous scientists who responded to a an online survey. The survey started by seeking opinions from 10,257 scientists. However, the survey authors selectively whittled down the responses to just 77 scientists.  So the 97% “consensus” claim is not based on thousands of scientists or even hundreds of scientists – but 75 out of only 77 scientists. Thus, the oft repeated 97 percent “consensus’ is based on only 75 anonymous scientists.

Yet, on this basis some say we should tax and eliminate hydrocarbon use, severely restricting U.S. job creation and economic growth.
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Re: Nuclear prices itself out of market
Reply #46 - Nov 4th, 2013 at 4:37pm
 
Ajax wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 3:55pm:
# wrote on Nov 4th, 2013 at 2:31pm:
Yes, well:-

Hardly among the most credible of sources.

I listen to the best. You put faith in the rest.

You've given no reason to suppose that you know any more of the science than I do. Quite the opposite, in fact. Yet you assert that the science is "full of holes". You're keen to believe that, but lack the skills to make the assessment.


There is no denying the truth.....no matter how you try and wrap it................!!!!!!!


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The claim that “97% of scientists agree” is based on 77 anonymous scientists who responded to a an online survey. ...

Actually, there have been several papers:
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A survey of all peer-reviewed abstracts on the subject 'global climate change' published between 1993 and 2003 ...
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A survey of 3146 earth scientists ...
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... an independent study that surveys all climate scientists who have publicly signed declarations supporting or rejecting the consensus.
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The Vision Prize is an online poll of scientists about climate risk. ...

Approximately 90% of participants responded that human activity has had a primary influence over global temperatures over the past 250 years, with the other 10% answering that it has been a secondary cause, and none answering either that humans have had no influence or that temperatures have not increased.
And those are just the obvious ones.

In addition to which, can you name a single scientific organisation that disagrees with the consensus?
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Re: Nuclear prices itself out of market
Reply #47 - Nov 4th, 2013 at 5:58pm
 
Interesting enough, a number of climate scientists have recently come out in favour of nuclear:

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/11/03/world/nuclear-energy-climate-change-scientists...
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(CNN) -- Four top environmental scientists raised the stakes Sunday in their fight to reverse climate change and save the planet.

Climate and energy scientists James Hansen, Ken Caldeira, Kerry Emanuel and Tom Wigley have released an open letter calling on world leaders to support development of safer nuclear power systems.

Wait -- pro-nuclear environmentalists? Isn't that an oxymoron? Apparently, not so much anymore.

Embracing nuclear is the only way, the scientists believe, to reverse the looming threat of climate change which they blame on fossil fuels. Depending who you ask, they're either abandoning -- or leading -- traditional environmentalists who for a half-century have rejected clean-burning nuclear power as too expensive or too dangerous. Opponents cite disasters at Fukushima, Chernobyl and Three Mile island.
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