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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 11000 Australia Gender:	Say no to a drink container tax Oct 18^th, 2013 at 9:53pm These smacking greenies really give me the pips. Now they want a drink container tax....????? We are being taxed enough and its enough.....????? Drink container tax http://www.heraldsun.com.au/money/money-matters/warning-over-hip-pocket-cost-of-... Say no to drink container tax http://www.nodrinkcontainertax.org.au/
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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6490 Gender:	Re: Say no to a drink container tax Reply #1 - Oct 18^th, 2013 at 10:14pm We dont have the deposit on drink containers here in WA and it shows. When I become Grand Pohbar and ruler of everything i will be paying people to clean up roadside rubbish and then I will be charging the manufactures of those products for the cleanup.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 142507 Gender:	Re: Say no to a drink container tax Reply #2 - Oct 19^th, 2013 at 7:42am Sounds good to me. It works well in SA.
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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 11000 Australia Gender:	Re: Say no to a drink container tax Reply #3 - Oct 19^th, 2013 at 9:28am greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2013 at 7:42am: Sounds good to me. It works well in SA. Hey Greg What price did this tax start in SA and how much has it increased since its inception. What i'm against is the punishment of the majority because we have a few (minority) that don't follow the rules.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 76426 Gender:	Re: Say no to a drink container tax Reply #4 - Oct 19^th, 2013 at 9:31am It's a good idea .... those with the money usually don't bother collecting the bottles, creating an additional source of income for the poor that end up scavenging for old bottles. They have extra help, the streets are cleaner
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Reply #5 - Oct 19^th, 2013 at 10:39am

Ajax wrote on Oct 19^th, 2013 at 9:28am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19^th, 2013 at 7:42am:

Sounds good to me.

It works well in SA.

Hey Greg

What price did this tax start in SA and how much has it increased since its inception.

What i'm against is the punishment of the majority because we have a few (minority) that don't follow the rules.

Not sure, probably started at 2 or 5 cents. I think it's 10 cents now (?)

It's a refund system anyway, so you get it back if you return the container.

Maybe AGW will melt all the bottles and cans on the side of the road, and we won't need the "tax" anyway Wink

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6490 Gender:	Re: Say no to a drink container tax Reply #6 - Oct 19^th, 2013 at 10:47am I would make the refund $1 per bottle. The only people who would be worried are the ones who throw their rubbish away, consider it a fine
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 142507 Gender:	Re: Say no to a drink container tax Reply #7 - Oct 19^th, 2013 at 10:49am miketrees wrote on Oct 19^th, 2013 at 10:47am: I would make the refund $1 per bottle. The only people who would be worried are the ones who throw their rubbish away, consider it a fine Yep. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest. 50c, $1 ... no big deal.
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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Say no to a drink container tax Reply #8 - Oct 19^th, 2013 at 10:50am People these days are filthy pigs, especially young people. I agree with miketrees, $1 a bottle. We also need to increase littering fines and start demanding that they are strictly enforced. People in this country should be disgusted with their littering habits.
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Reply #9 - Oct 19^th, 2013 at 11:33am

ian wrote on Oct 19^th, 2013 at 10:50am:

People these days are filthy pigs, especially young people. I agree with miketrees, $1 a bottle. We also need to increase littering fines and start demanding that they are strictly enforced. People in this country should be disgusted with their littering habits.

+1

I'm sick of pigs dumping rubbish on street verges whenever they feel like it too.

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Reply #10 - Oct 19^th, 2013 at 12:33pm

According to the "say no to tax" website though there is less rubbish being dumped...

I think big (like really significantly big) industry fines for those who produce packaging this is harmful is a more realistic, sustainable and measurable solution. Tax won't change much, well except put more money in Government coffers to pay for weddings, bike rides, footy finals etc etc.... With no measurable change to pollution.

Just putting a plastic bottle in the bin does not reduce the environmental impact.

The various individual companies can try all they like to pass the cost of their fines onto consumers, but, for the main part, the products consumed are not necesseties of life, therefore, it won't really matter how expensive they get, people will simply stop buying the products. Ironically, if the corporate interests that produce environmentally damaging packaging for the stuff they want to sell simply changed their packaging to something friendlier to the environment then no problems really. Even if lazy arseholes drop their packaging, it won't look great, but at least it will not be potentially toxic, damaging or harmful.

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