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True Colours Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2837 Gender:	Abbott Forgets Oct 15^th, 2013 at 2:31pm Should we believe Abbott when he said today that he cannot remember whether world leaders at APEC told him not to repeal the carbon tax? Another Abbott lie?
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Reply #1 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 2:45pm

Poor old Tonies copping a bit of a bashing today

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/abbott-walking-tricky-tightrope-on-diplomacy-20...

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The other is to see him as weak, unprincipled and insincere. The first interpretation has prevailed among Australia's kind-hearted commentators. But our regional neighbours are not so generous and they will incline to the second interpretation. So Abbott's diplomacy is off to a shaky start.

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He praised Japan as a democracy, invited Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to address our Parliament and undertook to visit Tokyo before Beijing. Everything Abbott said about Japan is true, but that does not mean he is wise to say it.

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If Abbott swings Japan's way, as he clearly wants to, China will punish him. Beijing has already fired a warning shot, objecting to the statement from a US-Japan-Australia foreign ministers' meeting last week. If Abbott goes further with Tokyo, China will step up the pressure.

The free trade agreement to which Abbott has committed himself might be a casualty. A freeze on ministerial visits could follow. If Abbott is not willing to resist such pressure, he'd better start choosing his words about Japan much more carefully. Otherwise he's heading for a humiliating backdown. In Washington, Beijing and Tokyo they'll be watching to see what kind of a statesman he proves to be. Welcome to the Asian Century, Mr Abbott, where foreign policy is getting much harder.

But of course Hugh is a shirt-lifting inner city green leftard right???

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-calls-on-pr...

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Prime Minister Tony Abbott says he believes Bill Shorten will be forced to back the Coalition's plan to repeal the carbon tax, saying Labor's new leader was “nothing if not a political pragmatist”.

I'm sure Bill will give you the "Kinder & Gentler Politic" that you gave Labor as opposition leader Tone.

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Mr Abbott has previously indicated he would do whatever it takes to abolish the carbon tax – including calling a double dissolution election – but on Tuesday at a press conference at Canberra's Parliament House he retreated from this scenario.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Abbott Forgets Reply #2 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 3:09pm He was probably to busy trying to add up all of his dodgy expense claims in his head to listen to anything that was going on around him
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Enquiring mind Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104798	Re: Abbott Forgets Reply #3 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 3:58pm True Colours wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 2:31pm: Should we believe Abbott when he said today that he cannot remember whether world leaders at APEC told him not to repeal the carbon tax? Another Abbott lie? It's an easy thing to forget. Anyway, Mr Abbott has his mind on other things. There's the budget emergency, for a start.
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Abbott Forgets Reply #4 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 5:17pm we dont care what lefties think!!! your thoughts are just plain not important anymore.. and I am sure Tony doesn t give a crap either.. tough being in opposition.. b ut you will get used to it.. not sure about the SOUR GRAPES though..
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salad in Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5941	Re: Abbott Forgets Reply #5 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 6:13pm True Colours wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 2:31pm: Should we believe Abbott when he said today that he cannot remember whether world leaders at APEC told him not to repeal the carbon tax? Another Abbott lie? Maybe he was 'young and naive'. Yeah, that should do it.
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Re: Abbott Forgets
Reply #6 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 6:28pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 2:45pm:

Poor old Tonies copping a bit of a bashing today

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/abbott-walking-tricky-tightrope-on-diplomacy-20...

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The other is to see him as weak, unprincipled and insincere. The first interpretation has prevailed among Australia's kind-hearted commentators. But our regional neighbours are not so generous and they will incline to the second interpretation. So Abbott's diplomacy is off to a shaky start.

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He praised Japan as a democracy, invited Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to address our Parliament and undertook to visit Tokyo before Beijing. Everything Abbott said about Japan is true, but that does not mean he is wise to say it.

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If Abbott swings Japan's way, as he clearly wants to, China will punish him. Beijing has already fired a warning shot, objecting to the statement from a US-Japan-Australia foreign ministers' meeting last week. If Abbott goes further with Tokyo, China will step up the pressure.

The free trade agreement to which Abbott has committed himself might be a casualty. A freeze on ministerial visits could follow. If Abbott is not willing to resist such pressure, he'd better start choosing his words about Japan much more carefully. Otherwise he's heading for a humiliating backdown. In Washington, Beijing and Tokyo they'll be watching to see what kind of a statesman he proves to be. Welcome to the Asian Century, Mr Abbott, where foreign policy is getting much harder.

But of course Hugh is a shirt-lifting inner city green leftard right???

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-calls-on-pr...

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Prime Minister Tony Abbott says he believes Bill Shorten will be forced to back the Coalition's plan to repeal the carbon tax, saying Labor's new leader was “nothing if not a political pragmatist”.

I'm sure Bill will give you the "Kinder & Gentler Politic" that you gave Labor as opposition leader Tone.

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Mr Abbott has previously indicated he would do whatever it takes to abolish the carbon tax – including calling a double dissolution election – but on Tuesday at a press conference at Canberra's Parliament House he retreated from this scenario.

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Are all these quotes about Tony's recent travels where he showed of his skills as a diplomat? Weren't the conga line hailing him a roaring success?

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Abbott Forgets Reply #7 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 6:32pm Its from the very pro-labor Age. did you note how the article referred to the foreign policy of Howard and abbot and completely ignored the 6 intervening years? it was just stupid bit of liberal bashing by a well known pro-labor hack.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Abbott Forgets Reply #8 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 6:36pm longweekend58 wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 6:32pm: Its from the very pro-labor Age. did you note how the article referred to the foreign policy of Howard and abbot and completely ignored the 6 intervening years? it was just stupid bit of liberal bashing by a well known pro-labor hack. that doesn't make it any less true, dopey
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Re: Abbott Forgets
Reply #9 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 6:38pm

cods wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 5:17pm:

we dont care what lefties think!!!

your thoughts are just plain not important anymore..

and I am sure Tony doesn t give a crap either..

tough being in opposition.. b ut you will get used to it..

not sure about the SOUR GRAPES though.. Grin

ROFLMAO - so your posts for the last 6 years were completely unimportant cods? Hope you had fun wasting your time with all the SOUR GRAPES:)

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Enquiring mind Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104798	Re: Abbott Forgets Reply #10 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 6:53pm cods wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 5:17pm: we dont care what lefties think!!! your thoughts are just plain not important anymore.. and I am sure Tony doesn t give a crap either.. Exactly. Mr Abbott will govern for all Australians. The leftards can like it or lump it, dear.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156465 Gender:	Re: Abbott Forgets Reply #11 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 6:54pm Stop The Cods!
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True Blue... Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3748 Gender:	Re: Abbott Forgets Reply #12 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 7:16pm cods wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 5:17pm: we dont care what lefties think!!! your thoughts are just plain not important anymore.. and I am sure Tony doesn t give a crap either.. tough being in opposition.. b ut you will get used to it.. not sure about the SOUR GRAPES though..
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