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longweekend58

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The Carbon Tax Repeal Mandate
Oct 14^th, 2013 at 9:17am

The biggest mistake Labor is making now is in its refusal to join with the Coalition and to repeal the hated Carbon tax. The last election was an effective referendum on the carbon tax and if repeated polls on the tppic were unconvincing, the flogging labor received has to be.

Similar to the embarrassing 'rollback the GST' policy which Labor took to 2 elections - and were roundly defeated - the carbon tax policy is electoral dead weight. the people hate it and even more oppose the back-handed way in which it was implemented. In short, it is electoral poison. By opposing the Carbon Tax repeal, Labor is casting contempt at the clear wishes of the electorate and ensuring that in future elections they will carry this hugely unpopular albatross around their necks. It is political folly. The coalition dumped their own unwanted and un-mandated WorkChoices and are now back in government after just 6 years while Labor remains committed to a policy that will ensure its easy defeat in 2016.

The stupidity of Labor's decision is indicative of the dreadful political strategy that has plagued the ALP since 2007. It spells bad news for True Believers who see ahead the possibility of multiple terms in opposition.

The Carbon Tax continues to weave its trail of destruction. One party however stands resolutely in its path, closing its eyes to the oncoming storm.

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Re: The Carbon Tax Repeal Mandate
Reply #1 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 9:22am

Labor are not supporting a carbon tax, they are supporting a market driven carbon price.

A market driven carbon price is very good policy. By far the most effective means to reduce co2 emissions.

If Mr Abbott scraps the carbon tax by transitioning it to a ETS, the he will have Labors full support.

No carbon tax and no ETS is economic stupidity and has very little support in the public.

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Re: The Carbon Tax Repeal Mandate
Reply #2 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 9:28am

Doctor Jolly wrote on Oct 14^th, 2013 at 9:22am:

Labor are not supporting a carbon tax, they are supporting a market driven carbon price.

A market driven carbon price is very good policy. By far the most effective means to reduce co2 emissions.

If Mr Abbott scraps the carbon tax by transitioning it to a ETS, the he will have Labors full support.

No carbon tax and no ETS is economic stupidity and has very little support in the public.

huh??? did the election result totally elude you? the people DONT WANT A CARBONTAX OR ETS. the point is moot anyhow. if labor refuse to support the repeal it will only be repealed 6 months later anyhow. They are skewering themselves to no avail.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: The Carbon Tax Repeal Mandate Reply #3 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 9:47am We don't know what impossible conditions Palmer will put on anything. The man is a maverick.
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: The Carbon Tax Repeal Mandate Reply #4 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 9:53am bogarde73 wrote on Oct 14^th, 2013 at 9:47am: We don't know what impossible conditions Palmer will put on anything. The man is a maverick. he will oppose the carbon tax. to do anything else would be a massive breach of promise and if it lead to a DD would destroy his party.
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: The Carbon Tax Repeal Mandate Reply #5 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 9:59am The last thing TA needs is a DD and it would be better if the words never passed his lips or those of any coalition member.
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Re: The Carbon Tax Repeal Mandate
Reply #6 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 10:13am

bogarde73 wrote on Oct 14^th, 2013 at 9:47am:

We don't know what impossible conditions Palmer will put on anything. The man is a maverick.

he will do so much harm if he does half the things he claims he will..hopefully the harm will all be to himself and not the country.

we seem to get virtually no news on fairfax counting...why is that???... surely it should be done and dusted by now..

aussie must know something he has an IN down at party headqtrs.

piggy has been very quiet...... Cheesy

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Re: The Carbon Tax Repeal Mandate
Reply #7 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 10:14am

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 14^th, 2013 at 9:28am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Oct 14^th, 2013 at 9:22am:

Labor are not supporting a carbon tax, they are supporting a market driven carbon price.

A market driven carbon price is very good policy. By far the most effective means to reduce co2 emissions.

If Mr Abbott scraps the carbon tax by transitioning it to a ETS, the he will have Labors full support.

No carbon tax and no ETS is economic stupidity and has very little support in the public.

huh??? did the election result totally elude you? the people DONT WANT A CARBONTAX OR ETS. the point is moot anyhow. if labor refuse to support the repeal it will only be repealed 6 months later anyhow. They are skewering themselves to no avail.

All polls that specifically asked whether you wanted a market driven approach to climate change came out heavily in favour of "yes".

It impossible to believe that Australia would be the first and only every country to undo carbon emissions legislation as the world gets hotter and hotter.

Abbott's opposition to a carbon tax was opportunistic at the time. Hopefully common sense will prevail now.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: The Carbon Tax Repeal Mandate Reply #8 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 10:16am piggy wont bring on a DD... he would be the one to lose too much...people have seen the REAL PIGGY and I doubt he would get that support a second time around... and Abbotts doing a good job anyway.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156465 Gender:	Re: The Carbon Tax Repeal Mandate Reply #9 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 10:18am cods wrote on Oct 14^th, 2013 at 10:16am: and Abbotts doing a good job anyway.
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: The Carbon Tax Repeal Mandate Reply #10 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 10:23am There was a mandate for the ETS and Abbott scuttled it so any talk of mandates by Abbott are nothing more than the rantings of a con man and liar. In short...Abbott can shove his mandate up his Man Date and bring on a DD asap.
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: The Carbon Tax Repeal Mandate Reply #11 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 10:28am cods, I heard this morning that Fairfax is weeks away. There are about 40,000 votes that are being challenged.
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Re: The Carbon Tax Repeal Mandate
Reply #12 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 10:39am

Stand by for interesting times as Bill Shorten, a dog with fleas, tries to make himself look like a leader.

He is without doubt the worst possible choice. Now suddenly, he's there, El Supremo. This is the worst mistake I have ever seen Labor make, in all of the years I have been following politics. Shorten makes Rudd and Gillard look like angels in comparison.

Like I say, you lie down with dogs, you wake up with fleas...and Shorten is a dog, that is a lay down misere.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: The Carbon Tax Repeal Mandate Reply #13 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 11:03am I just love the double standard from Longstupidone and his ilk Labor wins an election promising an ETS but libs have a mandate to oppose it Libs win an election promising to scrap the carbon tax and labor supposedly has a mandate to support them? Wake up you clown!
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Re: The Carbon Tax Repeal Mandate
Reply #14 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 11:04am

red baron wrote on Oct 14^th, 2013 at 10:39am:

Stand by for interesting times as Bill Shorten, a dog with fleas, tries to make himself look like a leader.

He is without doubt the worst possible choice. Now suddenly, he's there, El Supremo. This is the worst mistake I have ever seen Labor make, in all of the years I have been following politics. Shorten makes Rudd and Gillard look like angels in comparison.

Like I say, you lie down with dogs, you wake up with fleas...and Shorten is a dog, that is a lay down misere.

Make up your mind ... previously Gillard was the worst choice, then Rudd, now Shorten ....

I bet if they put Jesus Christ as leader of the ALP you'd still fault him. Cheesy

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