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Reply #45 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 9:31pm

athos wrote on Oct 14^th, 2013 at 7:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 14^th, 2013 at 6:30pm:

athos wrote on Oct 14^th, 2013 at 6:02pm:

Problem is not in malticartularism problem je in Islam.

While all others peacefully and spontaneously exchange their culture and tradition among themselves Muslims persistently and forcefully try to impose their barbaric sharia law and anti culture on everyone else undermining and rejecting even official Australian law.

So, all Muslims do this?

How many Muslims, as a proportion of the total population do think there are in Australia? Approximately 2%. Do you seriously think that 2% (and to be truthful, not all Muslims want to impose Sh'ria, so we're really look at an even smaller number) can enforce their will on the other 98%? Really? Roll Eyes

I am not talking from statistics point of view but from my and overwhelming other people's experience with muslims.

Must be different Muslims to the ones I know. My experience with them has been overwhelmingly positive. One of my best friends is a Muslim and one of my neighbours is as well. Many people I've worked with over the last 25 years have been Muslims, never a problem.

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The reality so far has confirmed that persistent political correctness can't bring solution to Muslim intolerance and aggressive behaviour toward rest of the peaceful population.

Again, you must live in a different country. I've seen no Muslim intolerance and aggressive behavior except in the media when some extremist is promoted as the latest "voice of Islam". Roll Eyes

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Australia has to start thinking about other solutions including deportation or selective migration policy that will as much as possible exclude Muslims, until it is not too late.

As HB suggested, "you paint with a very broad brush." Considering that 36% of all Australian Muslims have been born here, deporting them would pose considerable legal difficulties for the Government. Then there is the other 46% whom are citizens. Revoking citizenship, merely on suspicion is rather extreme in the minds of most reasonable people... Roll Eyes

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Reply #46 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 9:45pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 14^th, 2013 at 9:31pm:

Again, you must live in a different country. I've seen no Muslim intolerance and aggressive behavior except in the media when some extremist is promoted as the latest "voice of Islam". Roll Eyes

They certainly do dominate the airwaves. And for as you say, such a tiny population, must be because Aussies are racists (using the lefts incorrect use of the term) but you don't see such coverage of the Buddhists for example.

There are many reasons for that including the nature of Islam to be more than just a religion, but you know that already but it doesn't suit your narrative.

Maybe people are a bit cautious when they note what is happening in Europe, where normally welcoming and generous nations are expressing disquiet at Muslim demands and actions which is all out of proportion of their population percentages. Must be they are all racists as well. In Brian world the only people who are not racist, who are willing to adopt and accommodate, who make no demands for special treatment, who don't protest with signs declaring people should be beheaded, who don't preach separation and justify rape are Muslims.

They are all lovely.

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Reply #47 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:19am

And how is Islam different to Christianity or Hinduism or Judiasm or virtually any other religion, which makes it "more than a religion"?

They are all opiates of the masses, feeding their believers their fix of beliefs, morality and lifestyle suggestions. While there may be minor differences, the view that you must live your religion and it's beliefs is common across all of them.

Muslims come in for special attention because they're the ones the media fixates on and sensationalises. They can easily find some radical who'll speak out, just as you can for the other religions if you really want to but they only speak for themselves really because their is no hierarchy, no centralised authority in Islam. Something which the media and of course the Islamophobes either don't know, can't understand or don't care about. It just makes it easier for them to be bigoted towards all Muslims, now don't it? Cheesy

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Reply #49 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 11:07am

|dev|null wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:19am:

And how is Islam different to Christianity or Hinduism or Judiasm or virtually any other religion, which makes it "more than a religion"?

Islam is a political ideology that governs in places like Iran with the mad mullah's,does your technically and logically incorrect term Islamophobia also apply to critics of the ruling Islamic regime in Iran?
Perhaps we should start calling critics of the Liberal party liberalphobic. Cool

The Ahmadi muslims do not believe in political Islam or the obligation for jihad, they are persecuted for heretical reforms by mainstream Islam and cannot even call themselves muslims where they originated from in Pakistan.

The hindu are an excellent example of integration,cows are sacred to them yet we have a large beef industry and they will never ask us to change to accomodate their beliefs.

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Reply #50 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 11:18am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 9:09am:

He's a fanatic.

He speaks to empty rooms.

He does no more harm than the Christian preacher that bags Islam to his Sunday congregation.

He wants to make money and get rich through his religious propaganda.

I criticise ACA more than him for giving him air space. It's MSM propaganda, he speaks to no more than a handful of people, he has no audience, he's a nothing and a no one.

Anyone that has seen his youtube videos know he's a joke.

Ikebal Patel the President of the Australian federation of Islamic councils has made several submissions to the government to consider sharia law under the concept of legal pluralism, do you think he should read our constitution instead of re reading the same old crappy books from the dark ages?

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The Australian federation of Islamic councils wants muslims to be able to marry,divorce and conduct financial transactions under the principals of sharia law.

It argues that all Australians would benefit if Islamic laws were adopted as mainstream legislation

Sharia guarantees women's rights that are not recognised in mainstream courts ,he said.
www.abc.net.au/news/2011-05-17/muslim-group-wants-sharia-law-in-australia/271709...

The president of the AFIC has made numerous submissions to Parliament asking for sharia law to be accepted, do you consider him to be a fanatic?

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Reply #51 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 1:40pm

Well the fact is that they treat women as a factories for mass production of children. That's how they multiply so quickly like rabbits and take over territories.
While in europe among non muslims birth rate is from -2 to 1% among muslims is 9%.
That's how they are conquering Europe.
Someone recently said: "Today Kosovo tomorrow Auburn and Bankstown", "Today Europe, tomorrow Australia".
It's said to watch suicidal policy of the west.

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Do we need to be always politically correct.
In the world of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6412 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants Reply #52 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 1:45pm Who else asked to be abolished official Australian law except Muslims who wants to introduce Iranian sharia law in Australia. Did Indians asked for caste system to be introduced in Australia?
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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6412 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants Reply #53 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 1:56pm Boy bullied by muslim students for eating salami lunch.
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Reply #55 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 2:58pm

Old Codger wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:26am:

HB,

911 perhaps?

and countless other atrocities against "innocent civilians".

Every time I turn on teh TV I see peace loving muslims killing anyone they can get their hands on.

Everytime I turn it on, I see more news about peace loving Americans and their allies killing anyone they can get their hands on.

Amazing how the death of 3,000 people in New York is more important than the deaths of a million people in Iraq and Afghanistan. Cheesy

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Reply #56 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 3:05pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 11:07am:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 10:19am:

And how is Islam different to Christianity or Hinduism or Judiasm or virtually any other religion, which makes it "more than a religion"?

Islam is a political ideology that governs in places like Iran with the mad mullah's,does your technically and logically incorrect term Islamophobia also apply to critics of the ruling Islamic regime in Iran?

Nope. It is technically and logically correct to call the bigotry that you and your mates continually display towards only Muslims, Islamophobia. Doesn't matter how disconnected they are from what the fundamentalists say or do, they're all guilty in your opinion. It is an irrational fear of anything to do with Islam and it's adherents.

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Perhaps we should start calling critics of the Liberal party liberalphobic. Cool

Nope. You should just call them sensible, rational voters. Cheesy

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The Ahmadi muslims do not believe in political Islam or the obligation for jihad, they are persecuted for heretical reforms by mainstream Islam and cannot even call themselves muslims where they originated from in Pakistan.

I think you'll find they are persecuted because they hold heretical religious beliefs, not because they aren't interested in Islamism. Rather like the Cathars were in Europe by the Catholic Church. Cheesy

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The hindu are an excellent example of integration,cows are sacred to them yet we have a large beef industry and they will never ask us to change to accomodate their beliefs.

So, you don't have any problem with Hindu beliefs like Suttee or Thuggee? What about arranged marriages? Honour Killings? What about the unbreakable Hindu caste beliefs? The hatred many of them hold for the Sikhs? Seems you're rather selective there. Could it because they make good curries you like them? Cheesy

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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

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Reply #57 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 3:06pm

The parties who are the guilty ones in this whole scenario are our own politicians who have kept the immigration gates open for yet further thousands of these colonialist immigrant pilgrims for Middle Eastern Islam.

These Muslims are only repeating what has been said by generations of their forebears stretching back 1400 years.

It's not their fault that the traitors who we elect to protect our cultural heritage lets them invade our homeland suburbs by the tens of thousands each year.

Only a percentage of the Muslim community wants to see the deconstruction of our Western society through the development and expansion of Islam's influence in all of our major institutions.

But with our own politicians it's 100% of them who are actively sponsoring the continuing influx of Muslims into our national homeland and into the very fabric of our society.

Where are the video clips of those who are the true villains in this scenario?

Whitlam, Grassby, Hawke, Keating, Howard, Rudd, Gillard, Abbott ...

These are Australia's true political criminals.

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Reply #58 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 3:10pm

athos wrote on Oct 15^th, 2013 at 1:45pm:

Who else asked to be abolished official Australian law except Muslims who wants to introduce Iranian sharia law in Australia.
Did Indians asked for caste system to be introduced in Australia?

How many Muslims have asked for this? One? Ten? A hundred? A thousand, all of them? Get back to us with some facts, not sensationalist tabloid TV rubbish. Cheesy

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Old Codger Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 547 Melbourne. Gender:	Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants Reply #59 - Oct 15^th, 2013 at 3:15pm "Amazing how the death of 3,000 people in New York is more important than the deaths of a million people in Iraq and Afghanistan." The million dead is bulls1t propaganda! Grossly inflated by muslims killing muslims, which do not count in my book! OC
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