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Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants
Reply #105 - Oct 18^th, 2013 at 7:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2013 at 12:58am:

freediver wrote on Oct 17^th, 2013 at 6:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 11:40pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 9:01pm:

So we must bend over backwards to be more tolerant of Islamic intolerance to prove to Brian that we are not as intolerant as the intolerance we criticise? And we can start this by insisting we have no right to criticise (unless we are a Muslim from the same country) but Muslims have the right to do whatever they want, including chopping people's heads of?

You don't have to, FD. What you have to understand and refuse to is that not all Muslims support intolerance. They are undeserving of your opprobrium, FD and that has been explained to you many, many times but you continue with your condemnation through guilt by association. Even worse, you keep perpetuating the same falsehoods about their religion and it's leader and no matter how often you're shown that your views aren't sensible or correct, you just keep returning to them in an endless diatribe against Muslims and Islam. Now, that is the essence of bigotry, Freediver. Roll Eyes

Except that every time a Muslim (or one of the apologists) tries to demonstrate that I am not correct, they end up reinforcing what I say.

Yeah, sure, whatever. You keep up your delusion, FD if it keeps you happy. I've tried but it is obvious you're not interested in alternatives. Roll Eyes

Alternatives to what? The truth? Whenever I manage to get a direct criticism out of you, it is about one of the following:

1) My motives.
2) Where it will (in your opinion) lead if I express my opinion.
3) Not all Muslims are terrorists / support Islam / whatever.

You have not once even attempted to argue a point of fact. It is just an endless stream of whiny excuses for why I should not speak out in defense of freedom, democracy, human rights etc.

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Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants
Reply #106 - Oct 18^th, 2013 at 10:04pm

freediver wrote on Oct 18^th, 2013 at 7:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2013 at 12:58am:

freediver wrote on Oct 17^th, 2013 at 6:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 11:40pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 9:01pm:

So we must bend over backwards to be more tolerant of Islamic intolerance to prove to Brian that we are not as intolerant as the intolerance we criticise? And we can start this by insisting we have no right to criticise (unless we are a Muslim from the same country) but Muslims have the right to do whatever they want, including chopping people's heads of?

You don't have to, FD. What you have to understand and refuse to is that not all Muslims support intolerance. They are undeserving of your opprobrium, FD and that has been explained to you many, many times but you continue with your condemnation through guilt by association. Even worse, you keep perpetuating the same falsehoods about their religion and it's leader and no matter how often you're shown that your views aren't sensible or correct, you just keep returning to them in an endless diatribe against Muslims and Islam. Now, that is the essence of bigotry, Freediver. Roll Eyes

Except that every time a Muslim (or one of the apologists) tries to demonstrate that I am not correct, they end up reinforcing what I say.

Yeah, sure, whatever. You keep up your delusion, FD if it keeps you happy. I've tried but it is obvious you're not interested in alternatives. Roll Eyes

Alternatives to what?

Obviously to your deluded beliefs. FD, no matter how many times you're told something different, you still stick to your narrow-minded views on Muslims and Islam. That is, by definition, bigotry.

Your attitudes disgusts me. They are unAustralian.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50548 At my desk.	Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants Reply #107 - Oct 19^th, 2013 at 8:57am Are you suggesting that your spineless waffle has failed to change my opinion of Islam? Does this indicate some kind of personality defect? Or that I have made factual errors in my statements about Islam?
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Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants
Reply #108 - Oct 19^th, 2013 at 11:48pm

freediver wrote on Oct 19^th, 2013 at 8:57am:

Are you suggesting that your spineless waffle has failed to change my opinion of Islam?

Your continued characterisation of my position as "spineless waffle" merely indicates you failure to even grasp it, FD.

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Does this indicate some kind of personality defect?

On my part? No. On your part, yes.

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Or that I have made factual errors in my statements about Islam?

Yes, many times and you have been corrected many times but you appear unable to understand or accept such correction, FD. That is because you're a bigot. That you seem unable to grasp that merely shows how deep your bigotry against Islam and Muslim runs. Roll Eyes

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Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants
Reply #109 - Oct 19^th, 2013 at 11:53pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18^th, 2013 at 10:04pm:

Obviously to your deluded beliefs. FD, no matter how many times you're told something different, you still stick to your narrow-minded views on Muslims and Islam. That is, by definition, bigotry.

Your attitudes disgusts me. They are unAustralian.

Actually that is just your opinion and it only works if in fact FD has narrow-minded views and according to what criteria.
That is, by definition, just your opinion. Which if incorrect is narrow minded in itself.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants Reply #110 - Oct 20^th, 2013 at 12:11am I think you have had enough for the night, Barney.
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Lucas The Innkeeper Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 162 Gender:	Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants Reply #111 - Oct 20^th, 2013 at 12:17am
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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 44325	Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants Reply #112 - Oct 20^th, 2013 at 1:45am ian wrote on Oct 20^th, 2013 at 12:11am: I think you have had enough for the night, Barney. I concur. He makes no sense.
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Lucas The Innkeeper Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 162 Gender:	Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants Reply #113 - Oct 20^th, 2013 at 1:52am Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20^th, 2013 at 1:45am: ian wrote on Oct 20^th, 2013 at 12:11am: I think you have had enough for the night, Barney. I concur. He makes no sense. No surprises there.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 44325	Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants Reply #114 - Oct 20^th, 2013 at 1:56am Lucas The Innkeeper wrote on Oct 20^th, 2013 at 1:52am: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20^th, 2013 at 1:45am: ian wrote on Oct 20^th, 2013 at 12:11am: I think you have had enough for the night, Barney. I concur. He makes no sense. No surprises there. It appears we have another troll.
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Lucas The Innkeeper Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 162 Gender:	Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants Reply #115 - Oct 20^th, 2013 at 1:58am Ah the old if i get insulted for posting garbage I'll call them a troll chestnut using the royal we. Grow up.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 44325	Re: Islam in Australia and what it wants Reply #116 - Oct 20^th, 2013 at 11:28am Lucas The Innkeeper wrote on Oct 20^th, 2013 at 1:58am: Ah the old if i get insulted for posting garbage I'll call them a troll chestnut using the royal we. Grow up. No, I'm calling you a troll 'cause you're posting gobbledegook. And tired old gobbledegook, too. Nothing fresh in your Islamophobia.
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