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Reply #45 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 10:35am
 
Ajax wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 9:54am:
muso wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 12:11am:
What Rhetoric?  Blatent lies, half truths and downright simplifications, such as you'll find on Anthony Watt's site, the Heartland Institute, Craig Idso's family site, and the kind of waffle that Monckton comes up with. These are some examples of rhetoric with no scientific basis whatsoever.

It's quite seductive, because the message is simple, albeit deceiving. Much easier than wading through highly technical material.   

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Hey muso the highlighted bit that's what the IPCC is full of.

Lucky for you true believers there are sceptics that actually question the validity of what the IPCC says....???

Otherwise you guys would be preaching a science that is only found in the IPCC computer circulation models and NOT IN THE REAL WORLD.

for example if it wasn't for sceptics you would still believe,

There is a hot spot in the tropopause,

All glaciers would melt by 2035,

There was no medieval warm period,

There was no mini ice age,

Co2 and temperature correlate,

0.3 ph ocean acidification will kill all life on Earth,

A carbon tax ETS will save us all from human CO2 emissions,

Polar bears would become extinct,

We have never before had this much CO2 in our atmosphere,

Man is totally responsible for the last 60 years of warming, even though we're coming out of a mini ice age and for the last 30 odds years our sun was very active.

We would have 0.2 degrees celcius per decade of unequivocal warming,

In the old days when politics didn't meddle with science the failing of the above points would have been enough to throw the AGW hypothesis in the rubbish bin where it belongs.



Ha ha good one, don't forget also that they believe storms floods and droughts only began in 1979 and prior to that every day was perfect  Grin
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Reply #46 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 1:38pm
 
Jeepers, from the OP it kind of struck me that discussing food chains might have been an idea with some merit. Kind of a natural progression from the information provided. I must learn to lower my expectations I guess. Why would information in the OP actually inform the debate?

I have this idea that food chains can and often are pretty delicate things, i.e. depending on the niche a food group takes up in a food chain can depend on it's eradication (for whatever reason) being a critical event or otherwise adapted to. Meh, maybe just a dud idea and not something our species needs to worry about too much.
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Reply #47 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 3:19pm
 
It is estimated that 99% of all species ever to grace the Earth are now extinct, so yes they are all on a knife edge, humans aren't though, to a certain extent they have outsmarted the system, no other species can f#ck with humans, the only way they can be gotten rid of is by their own hand or some catastrophic disaster like a meteorite or super volcano, something as piss weak as co2 just isn't going to do the job I'm afraid.  Wink
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Reply #48 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 3:30pm
 
Phemanderac wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 1:38pm:
Jeepers, from the OP it kind of struck me that discussing food chains might have been an idea with some merit. Kind of a natural progression from the information provided. I must learn to lower my expectations I guess. Why would information in the OP actually inform the debate?

I have this idea that food chains can and often are pretty delicate things, i.e. depending on the niche a food group takes up in a food chain can depend on it's eradication (for whatever reason) being a critical event or otherwise adapted to. Meh, maybe just a dud idea and not something our species needs to worry about too much.


Do you think too much ice can affect the food chain...????

Why don't you check out what's actually been going on in the Antarctic with respect to ice/snow and how much it has increased lately.................?????
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Reply #49 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 3:32pm
 
Innocent bystander wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 10:35am:
Ha ha good one, don't forget also that they believe storms floods and droughts only began in 1979 and prior to that every day was perfect  Grin


LMFAO that's a good one, I'll remember it...cheers.
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Reply #50 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 3:36pm
 
Ajax wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 3:30pm:
Why don't you check out what's actually been going on in the Antarctic with respect to ice/snow and how much it has increased lately.................?????




Global warming hysterics already have that covered, more snow and ice in Antarctica is a sure sign of global warming apparently, just as surely as less snow and ice in Antarctica would have been a sign of global warming  Grin
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Reply #51 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 3:40pm
 
Innocent bystander wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 3:36pm:
Ajax wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 3:30pm:
Why don't you check out what's actually been going on in the Antarctic with respect to ice/snow and how much it has increased lately.................?????


Global warming hysterics already have that covered, more snow and ice in Antarctica is a sure sign of global warming apparently, just as surely as less snow and ice in Antarctica would have been a sign of global warming  Grin


ROFL.....ROFL......LOL.....thanks for the good laugh...!!
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Reply #52 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 3:41pm
 
Ajax wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 3:32pm:
Innocent bystander wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 10:35am:
Ha ha good one, don't forget also that they believe storms floods and droughts only began in 1979 and prior to that every day was perfect  Grin


LMFAO that's a good one, I'll remember it...cheers.




Its so true though, I was talking to an hysterical climate change nut on another board that claimed it had never snowed in his town before and the recent snowfall was surely a sign that the climate was out of control and humans were to blame, after five minutes of googling I came up with dozens of photos of previous snowfalls in his town, some dating back to 1919, do you think he thanked me for bringing this to his attention though?, no definately not, all he did was scream DENIAR  Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #53 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 3:45pm
 
Innocent bystander wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 3:41pm:
Ajax wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 3:32pm:
Innocent bystander wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 10:35am:
Ha ha good one, don't forget also that they believe storms floods and droughts only began in 1979 and prior to that every day was perfect  Grin


LMFAO that's a good one, I'll remember it...cheers.




Its so true though, I was talking to an hysterical climate change nut on another board that claimed it had never snowed in his town before and the recent snowfall was surely a sign that the climate was out of control and humans were to blame, after five minutes of googling I came up with dozens of photos of previous snowfalls in his town, some dating back to 1919, do you think he thanked me for bringing this to his attention though?, no definately not, all he did was scream DENIAR  Grin Grin Grin


LOL...your damned if you do and damned if you don't..!!

Just cant win with this mob............!!!

We have to find a cure.....LOL.... and fast..!!
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Reply #54 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 3:50pm
 
Ajax wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 3:45pm:
We have to find a cure.....LOL.... and fast..!!



Well evidence doesn't seem to work ... what the hell else can we do?, psychotherapy maybe?  Grin
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Reply #55 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 4:18pm
 
Innocent bystander wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 3:41pm:
Ajax wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 3:32pm:
Innocent bystander wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 10:35am:
Ha ha good one, don't forget also that they believe storms floods and droughts only began in 1979 and prior to that every day was perfect  Grin


LMFAO that's a good one, I'll remember it...cheers.




Its so true though, I was talking to an hysterical climate change nut on another board that claimed it had never snowed in his town before and the recent snowfall was surely a sign that the climate was out of control and humans were to blame, after five minutes of googling I came up with dozens of photos of previous snowfalls in his town, some dating back to 1919, do you think he thanked me for bringing this to his attention though?, no definately not, all he did was scream DENIAR  Grin Grin Grin


we need a thread about stupid things alarmists say....if I may add this gem..

One of my old cycling mates in Brisbane had a magpie swoop him about 2 months ago, you know, totally out of maggie swooping season, anyhow, he posted on Facebook that this was proof of global warming and that events like this should remove all doubt from the minds of those clearly not 'smart' enough to realise that the world was gonna explode or something  Grin Grin Grin

It never crossed his mind that the maggie might have had a hangover or something...perhaps the maggie was high on 'elevated' co2 levels????, alternatively just didn't give a damn what day of the year it was  Cheesy
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Reply #56 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 4:30pm
 
Rider wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 4:18pm:
Innocent bystander wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 3:41pm:
Ajax wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 3:32pm:
Innocent bystander wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 10:35am:
Ha ha good one, don't forget also that they believe storms floods and droughts only began in 1979 and prior to that every day was perfect  Grin


LMFAO that's a good one, I'll remember it...cheers.




Its so true though, I was talking to an hysterical climate change nut on another board that claimed it had never snowed in his town before and the recent snowfall was surely a sign that the climate was out of control and humans were to blame, after five minutes of googling I came up with dozens of photos of previous snowfalls in his town, some dating back to 1919, do you think he thanked me for bringing this to his attention though?, no definately not, all he did was scream DENIAR  Grin Grin Grin


we need a thread about stupid things alarmists say....if I may add this gem..

One of my old cycling mates in Brisbane had a magpie swoop him about 2 months ago, you know, totally out of maggie swooping season, anyhow, he posted on Facebook that this was proof of global warming and that events like this should remove all doubt from the minds of those clearly not 'smart' enough to realise that the world was gonna explode or something  Grin Grin Grin

It never crossed his mind that the maggie might have had a hangover or something...perhaps the maggie was high on 'elevated' co2 levels????, alternatively just didn't give a damn what day of the year it was  Cheesy




Its totally bizzare isn't it?, somewhere 1000 years ago an aborigine would have been swooped by an out of season maggie, I just had a conversation with another climate hysteric that claimed bushfires never happened before man buggered the planet yet all of the Australian bush has adapted itself over millions of years to bushfire conditions to the point that seeds will not even sprout unless they have been roasted by a bushfire first    Grin
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Reply #57 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 4:42pm
 
Rider wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 4:18pm:
we need a thread about stupid things alarmists say....



Such as AGW is an "undeniable ... fact of nature".

"Anthropogenic Global Warming is an UNDENIABLE, OBSERVABLE FACT."

Thanks Chimp.

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Reply #58 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 4:49pm
 
Haha they don't call him chimp for nothing, give him another banana.  Grin
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Reply #59 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 4:53pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 4:42pm:
Rider wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 4:18pm:
we need a thread about stupid things alarmists say....



Such as AGW is an "undeniable ... fact of nature".

"Anthropogenic Global Warming is an UNDENIABLE, OBSERVABLE FACT."

Thanks Chimp.



haha...yeah that was a .303 thru the foot alright  Smiley
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