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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Risks grow for Antarctic life Reply #30 - Oct 8^th, 2013 at 11:49pm Yes - What Rhetoric that is indeed. I'm taking that as a rhetorical question. Do you believe in the Greenhouse effect, Greggary ?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156214 Gender:	Re: Risks grow for Antarctic life Reply #31 - Oct 8^th, 2013 at 11:54pm muso wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 11:49pm: I'm taking that as a rhetorical question. No squirming out of it. It wasn't a rhetorical question: I want an answer. So, what rhetoric are you talking about? Time to man up.
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Winston Smith Gold Member Offline Ministry of Truth Posts: 1549 Oceania Gender:	Re: Risks grow for Antarctic life Reply #32 - Oct 9^th, 2013 at 12:01am Sometimes when faced with degeneracy, euthanasia is the only moral solution.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Risks grow for Antarctic life Reply #33 - Oct 9^th, 2013 at 12:03am I wouldn't do that to him.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156214 Gender:	Re: Risks grow for Antarctic life Reply #34 - Oct 9^th, 2013 at 12:04am muso wrote on Oct 9^th, 2013 at 12:03am: I wouldn't do that to him. You're running away, muso (and starting to look a little silly). The rhetoric you were talking about? Hmmm ... ?
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Reply #35 - Oct 9^th, 2013 at 12:11am

What Rhetoric? Blatent lies, half truths and downright simplifications, such as you'll find on Anthony Watt's site, the Heartland Institute, Craig Idso's family site, and the kind of waffle that Monckton comes up with. These are some examples of rhetoric with no scientific basis whatsoever.

It's quite seductive, because the message is simple, albeit deceiving. Much easier than wading through highly technical material.

Goodnight.

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Reply #36 - Oct 9^th, 2013 at 12:18am

muso wrote on Oct 9^th, 2013 at 12:11am:

What Rhetoric? Blatent lies, half truths and downright simplifications, such as you'll find on Anthony Watt's site, the Heartland Institute, Craig Idso's family site, and the kind of waffle that Monckton comes up with. These are some examples of rhetoric with no scientific basis whatsoever.

Can you please provide a link to me quoting any of these sources?

After, all you did say "gullible laymen like you and Ajax can be totally convinced by the rhetoric".

So, show us all where I say that I'm convinced by the rhetoric.

You can't, can you?

I'm calling you out as a lying troll, muso.

Unless you can support your claim, your credibility has just sunk lower than Chimp's (which, quite frankly, I didn't think was possible).

Over to you ...

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156214 Gender:	Re: Risks grow for Antarctic life Reply #37 - Oct 9^th, 2013 at 12:24am Too easy.
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Reply #38 - Oct 9^th, 2013 at 5:52am

muso wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 11:44pm:

Christopher Monckton is probably a good example of a denialist. He's basically a crook, to the extent that he doesn't care if he's been caught out fiddling with graphs, reversing their axes, telling blatent lies and saying some really stupid things.

What possible motivation would he have to do that?, do you have any specific examples, and please don't quote Dikran Marsupial from scepticalcranks Grin

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Reply #39 - Oct 9^th, 2013 at 6:40am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2013 at 12:18am:

muso wrote on Oct 9^th, 2013 at 12:11am:

What Rhetoric? Blatent lies, half truths and downright simplifications, such as you'll find on Anthony Watt's site, the Heartland Institute, Craig Idso's family site, and the kind of waffle that Monckton comes up with. These are some examples of rhetoric with no scientific basis whatsoever.

Can you please provide a link to me quoting any of these sources?

After, all you did say "gullible laymen like you and Ajax can be totally convinced by the rhetoric".

So, show us all where I say that I'm convinced by the rhetoric.

You can't, can you?

I'm calling you out as a lying troll, muso.

Unless you can support your claim, your credibility has just sunk lower than Chimp's (which, quite frankly, I didn't think was possible).

Over to you ...

You're just playing games and tiptoeing past the real agenda. I'm not wasting my time Googling denialist sites. The very fact that you use words like "alarmist" and the fact that you are not even interested in the science shows that you are part of the true faithful, led by Rupert Murdoch's media empire and Gina Rinehart's poster boy Andrew Bolt.

It's just a game to you. You're smart enough to stay away from the science, because deep down, you realise that you can't provide anything of substance to back up your claims.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Risks grow for Antarctic life Reply #40 - Oct 9^th, 2013 at 6:43am Innocent bystander wrote on Oct 9^th, 2013 at 5:52am: What possible motivation would he have to do that?, do you have any specific examples, and please don't quote Dikran Marsupial from scepticalcranks Does insanity require a motivation? I don't know Dikran.
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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: Risks grow for Antarctic life Reply #41 - Oct 9^th, 2013 at 8:54am Monckton actually used to do reports for cashed up companies that wanted a slice of the squillions of free taxpayer dollarios being uselessly squandered by the idiot left. His advice was cash in early as the whole thing is a scam that will implode eventually, how smart was he?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156214 Gender:	Re: Risks grow for Antarctic life Reply #42 - Oct 9^th, 2013 at 9:03am muso wrote on Oct 9^th, 2013 at 6:40am: ... you realise that you can't provide anything of substance to back up your claims. What "claims" are they, exactly?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156214 Gender:	Re: Risks grow for Antarctic life Reply #43 - Oct 9^th, 2013 at 9:05am muso wrote on Oct 9^th, 2013 at 6:40am: I'm not wasting my time Googling denialist sites. Nobody's asking you to do that. I asked you to "show us all where I say that I'm convinced by the rhetoric." You conveniently skipped right past that.
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Reply #44 - Oct 9^th, 2013 at 9:54am

muso wrote on Oct 9^th, 2013 at 12:11am:

What Rhetoric? Blatent lies, half truths and downright simplifications, such as you'll find on Anthony Watt's site, the Heartland Institute, Craig Idso's family site, and the kind of waffle that Monckton comes up with. These are some examples of rhetoric with no scientific basis whatsoever.

It's quite seductive, because the message is simple, albeit deceiving. Much easier than wading through highly technical material.

Goodnight.

Hey muso the highlighted bit that's what the IPCC is full of.

Lucky for you true believers there are sceptics that actually question the validity of what the IPCC says....???

Otherwise you guys would be preaching a science that is only found in the IPCC computer circulation models and NOT IN THE REAL WORLD.

for example if it wasn't for sceptics you would still believe,

There is a hot spot in the tropopause,

All glaciers would melt by 2035,

There was no medieval warm period,

There was no mini ice age,

Co2 and temperature correlate,

0.3 ph ocean acidification will kill all life on Earth,

A carbon tax ETS will save us all from human CO2 emissions,

Polar bears would become extinct,

We have never before had this much CO2 in our atmosphere,

Man is totally responsible for the last 60 years of warming, even though we're coming out of a mini ice age and for the last 30 odds years our sun was very active.

We would have 0.2 degrees celcius per decade of unequivocal warming,

In the old days when politics didn't meddle with science the failing of the above points would have been enough to throw the AGW hypothesis in the rubbish bin where it belongs.

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1. There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than Anthropogenic Global Warming..Ajax
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