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Old Codger Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 547 Melbourne. Gender:	Re: Risks grow for Antarctic life Reply #15 - Oct 8^th, 2013 at 1:10pm The whales eat the Krill! We must think of the starving whales, think of the BABY whales, think of the GAY whales! Think of the LESBIAN whales! we must STOP this slaughter, we should stage a demonstration. OC
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156214 Gender:	Re: Risks grow for Antarctic life Reply #16 - Oct 8^th, 2013 at 2:36pm Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 12:58pm: Anthropogenic Global Warming is an UNDENIABLE, OBSERVABLE FACT.
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Old Codger Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 547 Melbourne. Gender:	Re: Risks grow for Antarctic life Reply #17 - Oct 8^th, 2013 at 3:07pm "Anthropogenic Global Warming is an UNDENIABLE, OBSERVABLE FACT.' AGW is the greatest scam/fraud/conjob/mass hysteria in human history. FIXED! OC
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Reply #18 - Oct 8^th, 2013 at 3:17pm

Old Codger wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 3:07pm:

"Anthropogenic Global Warming is an UNDENIABLE, OBSERVABLE FACT.'

AGW is the greatest scam/fraud/conjob/mass hysteria in human history.

FIXED!

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Andrew Bolt would be proud of you. You stuck to your lines.

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Reply #19 - Oct 8^th, 2013 at 3:23pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 12:58pm:

Do you understand what the words in AGW even mean?

There are no words in 'AGW'.

'AGW' is an acronym, containing three letters.

Each letter represents a word: Anthropogenic Global Warming.

Anthropogenic = caused by humans.

Global = involving the entire planet.

Warming = rising slightly in temperature.

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 12:58pm:

Anthropogenic Global Warming is an UNDENIABLE, OBSERVABLE FACT.

No, it's a scientific theory.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Risks grow for Antarctic life Reply #20 - Oct 8^th, 2013 at 3:28pm - and we know the definition of Scientific theory, don't we?
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Reply #21 - Oct 8^th, 2013 at 6:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 3:23pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 12:58pm:

Do you understand what the words in AGW even mean?

There are no words in 'AGW'.

'AGW' is an acronym, containing three letters.

Each letter represents a word: Anthropogenic Global Warming.

Anthropogenic = caused by humans.

Global = involving the entire planet.

Warming = rising slightly in temperature.

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 12:58pm:

Anthropogenic Global Warming is an UNDENIABLE, OBSERVABLE FACT.

No, it's a scientific theory.

so you are claiming in public that the earth IS NOT warming, that CO2 is NOT a greenhouse gas?

The AGW fact really bothers you Greggy boy

Oh whats wrong, things heating up for you in here?

LIKE THE EARTH

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Reply #22 - Oct 8^th, 2013 at 9:05pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 6:58pm:

so you are claiming in public that the earth IS NOT warming, that CO2 is NOT a greenhouse gas?

The AGW fact really bothers you Greggy boy

Oh whats wrong, things heating up for you in here?

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Why are you being such a monkey see monkey do...!!

Why like all alarmists are you twisting someone words as you would like to see them instead of what they actually are.......?????

Sceptics don't disagree that the Earth is warming.

Sceptics don't disagree that CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

Sceptics don't disagree that human CO2 emissions have a part in the current warming.

What sceptics disagree on is that human CO2 emissions are responsible for all the warming that has occurred in the last 60 odd years or so.

What sceptics disagree on is the pseudo science of the alarmists that all the warming is due to human CO2 emissions.

Sceptics are p!ssed that snake oil is being offered up as scientific evidence that the Earth has been warming only because of the increase in manmade CO2 emissions.

And your right i'm not an expert on the climate, but I can read and from what I have learnt the anthropogenic global warming religion is a scam based on a lie.

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1. There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than Anthropogenic Global Warming..Ajax
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Reply #23 - Oct 8^th, 2013 at 10:22pm

Ajax wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 9:05pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 6:58pm:

so you are claiming in public that the earth IS NOT warming, that CO2 is NOT a greenhouse gas?

The AGW fact really bothers you Greggy boy

Oh whats wrong, things heating up for you in here?

LIKE THE EARTH

Why like all alarmists are you twisting someone words as

Were the scientists researching the CFC/ozone depletion problem in the 1980s and 1990s Alarmists?

Did you agree with the research and international response? A response that was rapid and which banned CFCs globally.

I wonder what scientific methods they used? Which journals did they publish in? Were there collaborative investigations carried out by experts internationally that made recommendations?

Can you explain the difference between the CFC response and the response to mitigating the thermal effects of human driven carbon emissions?

Why not?

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Reply #24 - Oct 8^th, 2013 at 11:20pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 6:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 3:23pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 12:58pm:

Do you understand what the words in AGW even mean?

There are no words in 'AGW'.

'AGW' is an acronym, containing three letters.

Each letter represents a word: Anthropogenic Global Warming.

Anthropogenic = caused by humans.

Global = involving the entire planet.

Warming = rising slightly in temperature.

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 12:58pm:

Anthropogenic Global Warming is an UNDENIABLE, OBSERVABLE FACT.

No, it's a scientific theory.

The AGW fact really bothers you Greggy boy

The AGW theory isn't a fact, Chimp. It's a scientific theory (one day you'll learn the difference).

And, it doesn't bother me at all.

You, however, seem to be close to having a coronary.

Settle, petal.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156214 Gender:	Re: Risks grow for Antarctic life Reply #25 - Oct 8^th, 2013 at 11:25pm Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 6:58pm: LIKE THE EARTH Caps lock, and large font. A sure sign that you're losing the plot (and the argument). Remain calm, old boy.
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Reply #26 - Oct 8^th, 2013 at 11:27pm

Ajax wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 9:05pm:

Sceptics don't disagree that CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

Correct. Denialists do. Here's an example:

Ajax wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 9:01pm:

muso wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 1:17pm:

[quote]OK, Let's start with the established fact that you don't believe in the Greenhouse Effect then.

Are you going to change my mind...........????

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If you ask any smart high school student studying science, they will call that causation the "Greenhouse Effect". By the above statement, you are denying the existence of the Greenhouse Effect.

How can a science that is VERY FAR from SETTLED be taught as fact in our schools.....brainwashing.....!!!!!!

Another example:

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Carbon Dioxide and Global Warming

Where We Stand on the Issue
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Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change

There is little doubt the air's CO2 concentration has risen significantly since the inception of the Industrial Revolution; and there are few who do not attribute the CO2 increase to the increase in humanity's use of fossil fuels.

There is also little doubt the earth has warmed slightly over the same period; but there is no compelling reason to believe that the rise in temperature was caused by the rise in CO2.

Furthermore, it is highly unlikely that future increases in the air's CO2 content will produce any global warming; for there are numerous problems with the popular hypothesis that links the two phenomena.

A weak short-term correlation between CO2 and temperature proves nothing about causation.

Proponents of the notion that increases in the air's CO2 content lead to global warming point to the past century's weak correlation between atmospheric CO2 concentration and global air temperature as proof of their contention. However, they typically gloss over the fact that correlation does not imply causation, and that a hundred years is not enough time to establish the validity of such a relationship when it comes to earth's temperature history.

Craig Idso - another denialist who doesn't believe that CO2 is a Greenhouse Gas.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156214 Gender:	Re: Risks grow for Antarctic life Reply #27 - Oct 8^th, 2013 at 11:30pm muso wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 11:27pm: Ajax wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 9:05pm: Sceptics don't disagree that CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Correct. Denialists do. Correct. Are there any in this forum?
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Reply #28 - Oct 8^th, 2013 at 11:44pm

Not really. The ones in this forum are probably too naive to be denialists. To be a denialist, you need to be smart. Despite the fact that you know that the established science is correct, you need to be able to lie convincingly so that gullible laymen like you and Ajax can be totally convinced by the rhetoric - Hook line and sinker.

Christopher Monckton is probably a good example of a denialist. He's basically a crook, to the extent that he doesn't care if he's been caught out fiddling with graphs, reversing their axes, telling blatent lies and saying some really stupid things. He's a true professional crook and conman. You guys are just wannabees. You are not worthy.

You haven't even pretended to be members of the Houe of Lords.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156214 Gender:	Re: Risks grow for Antarctic life Reply #29 - Oct 8^th, 2013 at 11:47pm muso wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 11:44pm: ... can be totally convinced by the rhetoric ... What rhetoric is that? Please explain.
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