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Re: IPCC 95% sure about AGW
Reply #420 - Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 5:02pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 5:56pm:

remember the good old days when the AGW denialist church congregation was afraid to show data past the 1980s?

The sun is going in to a quite period for the next few decades.

The temperature will now follow suit, proving once and for all manmade CO2 doesn't control temperature on Earth.

Stay tuned...................................!!!!!!

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Re: IPCC 95% sure about AGW
Reply #421 - Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 7:32pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 5:56pm:

remember the good old days when the AGW denialist church congregation was afraid to show data past the 1980s?

Remember when the Alarmist church were (still are) too afraid to show data that pre dates 1880? "Muh Hockey stick".

(Pssst I can Ad Hominem and throw up fallacies too Wink

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Re: IPCC 95% sure about AGW
Reply #422 - Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 7:40pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 5:56pm:

remember the good old days when the AGW denialist church congregation was afraid to show data past the 1980s?

Oh look what happens when you pick an arbitrary time section and apply an arbitrary trend line

Temperature and solar activity on a downward trend and the IPCC are off to the moon.
(Bias is as bias does)

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Re: IPCC 95% sure about AGW
Reply #424 - Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 8:03pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 7:57pm:

Hey vuk11 you smelly freak

Why do you believe that rising CO2 levels will cool the planet?

I don't.
I believe a declining solar trend and carbon sinks will reduce the impact and potentially reverse it though. I believe that the power of c02 is nothing compared to a combination of every other climate driver including solar activity and carbon sinks. Is that not reasonable? Or is c02 the be all and end all for you regardless of every other factor involved?

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Re: IPCC 95% sure about AGW
Reply #425 - Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 8:17pm

Vuk11 wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 8:03pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 7:57pm:

Hey vuk11 you smelly freak

Why do you believe that rising CO2 levels will cool the planet?

I don't.

I believe a declining solar trend and carbon sinks will reduce the impact and potentially reverse it though.

I

declining solar trend?

describe the underlying mechanism and physics that is driving this DECLINIGN SOLAR TREND of yours

What time scale does it operate over?

(you must think everybody is incapable of exposing yoru childish lies and garbage online - are you embarrassed yet?)

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Re: IPCC 95% sure about AGW
Reply #426 - Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 8:25pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 8:17pm:

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declining solar trend?

describe the underlying mechanism and physics that is driving this DECLINIGN SOLAR TREND of yours

What time scale does it operate over?

(you must think everybody is incapable of exposing yoru childish lies and garbage online - are you embarrassed yet?)

You seem to be so well versed and have excellent knowledge of solar cycles why won't you tell us? Do you think solar activity is black and white to? That it just sits in neat little cycles like in your lab experiments?

Where am I lying?
Are you saying that a decline in solar activity in combination with carbon sinks will heat up the earth? (See I can straw man too Grin

) But seriously do you deny that the above would reduce the impact of c02? Why don't you answer questions? Why do you just throw around straw men all the time? Careful Chimp with all the straw men around we might have another c02 caused bush fire....lit by children! Cheesy

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Re: IPCC 95% sure about AGW
Reply #427 - Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 8:35pm

Ajax wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 5:02pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 5:56pm:

remember the good old days when the AGW denialist church congregation was afraid to show data past the 1980s?

The sun is going in to a quite period for the next few decades.

The temperature will now follow suit, proving once and for all manmade CO2 doesn't control temperature on Earth.

Stay tuned...................................!!!!!!

WOW big predictions from the man who cant find any models to support his lunatic religion, and who dismisses every model as garbage

Now Mr Nostradamus is predicting a quiet period for the sun

Don't tell me that you have been attributing the recent warming trend to a noisey period of the suns life?

perhaps you should examine the solar irradiance variation data for the Sun - its well documented

Mr Ajax is re-writing Physics online - in ONE swoop he will win the next Nobel prize

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Re: IPCC 95% sure about AGW
Reply #428 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 7:24am

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 8:35pm:

WOW big predictions from the man who cant find any models to support his lunatic religion, and who dismisses every model as garbage

Now Mr Nostradamus is predicting a quiet period for the sun

Don't tell me that you have been attributing the recent warming trend to a noisey period of the suns life?

perhaps you should examine the solar irradiance variation data for the Sun - its well documented

Mr Ajax is re-writing Physics online - in ONE swoop he will win the next Nobel prize

Not me chimp, but some very prominent scientists all around the world.

Some of many,

(Baliunas & Jastrow 1990)
(Foukal & Lean 1990)
(Friis-Christensen & Lassen 1991)
(Lockwood et al 1992)
(Scuderi 1993)
(Charvatova & Strestik 1995)
(Balinius & Soon 1996-1998)
(Soon et al 1996)
(Hoyt & Schatten 1997)
(Nicola Scaffeta & Bruce J West 2008)

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Re: IPCC 95% sure about AGW
Reply #429 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 11:34am

Ajax wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 7:24am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 8:35pm:

WOW big predictions from the man who cant find any models to support his lunatic religion, and who dismisses every model as garbage

Now Mr Nostradamus is predicting a quiet period for the sun

Don't tell me that you have been attributing the recent warming trend to a noisey period of the suns life?

perhaps you should examine the solar irradiance variation data for the Sun - its well documented

Mr Ajax is re-writing Physics online - in ONE swoop he will win the next Nobel prize

Not me chimp, but some very prominent scientists all around the world.

Some of many,

(Baliunas & Jastrow 1990)
(Foukal & Lean 1990)
(Friis-Christensen & Lassen 1991)
(Lockwood et al 1992)
(Scuderi 1993)
(Charvatova & Strestik 1995)
(Balinius & Soon 1996-1998)
(Soon et al 1996)
(Hoyt & Schatten 1997)
(Nicola Scaffeta & Bruce J West 2008)

where are the predictions for global cooling as CO2 levels increase?

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Re: IPCC 95% sure about AGW
Reply #430 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 11:40am

Vuk11 wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 7:40pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 5:56pm:

remember the good old days when the AGW denialist church congregation was afraid to show data past the 1980s?

Oh look what happens when you pick an arbitrary time section and apply an arbitrary trend line

Temperature and solar activity on a downward trend and the IPCC are off to the moon.
(Bias is as bias does)

Too short a period, Vuk.

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Re: IPCC 95% sure about AGW
Reply #431 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 11:50am

muso wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 11:40am:

Vuk11 wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 7:40pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 5:56pm:

remember the good old days when the AGW denialist church congregation was afraid to show data past the 1980s?

Oh look what happens when you pick an arbitrary time section and apply an arbitrary trend line

Temperature and solar activity on a downward trend and the IPCC are off to the moon.
(Bias is as bias does)

Too short a period, Vuk.

I was surprised to learn that you masquerade in these threads as an AGW denier posting the usual debunked fossil fuel spin, just to ferment a fake debate.

Why would you do that?

natural spontaneous debates are far more effective and honest

Even if it means a long break from debating

cheers

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Re: IPCC 95% sure about AGW
Reply #432 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 12:42pm

muso wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 11:40am:

Vuk11 wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 7:40pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 5:56pm:

remember the good old days when the AGW denialist church congregation was afraid to show data past the 1980s?

Oh look what happens when you pick an arbitrary time section and apply an arbitrary trend line

Temperature and solar activity on a downward trend and the IPCC are off to the moon.
(Bias is as bias does)

Too short a period, Vuk.

IMO all time periods are arbitrary and only useful in proving a specific point. Either a claim of something over a historic period (long time frame) or a claim of say for example a 15 year stall in temperature which would require 15+ year time frame.

The point of that graph was that arbitrary trend lines chosen in arbitrary times frames are misleading.

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Re: IPCC 95% sure about AGW
Reply #434 - Oct 24^th, 2013 at 8:59pm

Vuk11 wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 8:03pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 7:57pm:

Hey vuk11 you smelly freak

Why do you believe that rising CO2 levels will cool the planet?

I don't.
I believe a declining solar trend and carbon sinks will reduce the impact and potentially reverse it though. I believe that the power of c02 is nothing compared to a combination of every other climate driver including solar activity and carbon sinks. Is that not reasonable? Or is c02 the be all and end all for you regardless of every other factor involved?

==>>that's called "noise" buddy!! Cool

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