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Reply #2805 - Nov 12^th, 2023 at 1:13pm

Brian claims to have no right or ability to criticise Muslims, Islam or Muslim countries, but will happily call people Nazis if they point out his idiocy.

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 12^th, 2023 at 11:47am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 12^th, 2023 at 7:59am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 11^th, 2023 at 4:00pm:

Poor, poor, Soren. This coming from the man who's only response is an ad huminem insult to any serious comment made about a topic? Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you're too afraid to admit your family's history as part of the holocaust. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Why are you pathetically and falsely accusing Frank’s family of being Nazis?

'cause he acts like one, Larry. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #2806 - Nov 12^th, 2023 at 9:30pm

He's on a roll now:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 12^th, 2023 at 1:40pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Larry, you seem to like Soren's bullshit. Does that make you a Nazi too, afterall there doesn't appear all that much difference between what you and what he says. Do you also have a picture of Uncle Adolf up on the wall? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #2807 - Nov 12^th, 2023 at 11:24pm

To the perception of a follower of ISLAM......

What is the fault [and the 'place'], of the Jew and of the infidel?

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So before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life.
It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world. And all of us against the infidel.”

― Leon Uris, The Haj
https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/798555-the-haj

And who is the greater enemy, of all devout followers of ISLAM, at this moment of time?
[.....Hamas is a militant ISLAMIC entity!!]

We should not kid ourselves, that it is the Gazans, who are now the victims.

The ISLAMIC militants in Gaza, today, are still fighting.

And they are [effectively] fighting/launching attacks from behind the skirts of woman and children.

That has been the modus in combat, in the fight against any stronger infidel, for centuries.

IMAGE...

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami

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How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior

January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong

"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-isla...

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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #2808 - Nov 20^th, 2023 at 4:22pm

freediver wrote on Nov 12^th, 2023 at 9:30pm:

He's on a roll now:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 12^th, 2023 at 1:40pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Larry, you seem to like Soren's bullshit. Does that make you a Nazi too, afterall there doesn't appear all that much difference between what you and what he says. Do you also have a picture of Uncle Adolf up on the wall? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #2809 - Nov 27^th, 2023 at 6:36pm

Frank wrote on Nov 20^th, 2023 at 4:22pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 12^th, 2023 at 9:30pm:

He's on a roll now:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 12^th, 2023 at 1:40pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Larry, you seem to like Soren's bullshit. Does that make you a Nazi too, afterall there doesn't appear all that much difference between what you and what he says. Do you also have a picture of Uncle Adolf up on the wall? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU

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Reply #2810 - Jun 10^th, 2025 at 3:44pm

mothra wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2025 at 9:07am:

Gnads wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2025 at 8:59am:

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Pro-Palestinian protesters storm Jewish holiday event at Brisbane pub
A private Jewish celebration in Brisbane turned chaotic when pro-Palestinian protesters stormed the venue, jostling patrons and hurling objects at them.

Protesting the gross inhumanity Israel is inflicting on Gaza is not antisemitic.

Were it so, there wouldn't be millions of Jewish people doing it.

John Smith wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2025 at 5:35pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2025 at 3:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2025 at 3:19pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2025 at 3:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2025 at 2:46pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2025 at 1:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2025 at 1:24pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2025 at 11:43am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2025 at 3:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2025 at 9:32am:

Just a one way street with you. You're another woke Jew hater.

don't be such a melodramatic bitch. Opposing Israels genocide of Palestinians is not, nor has it ever been, 'Jew hating'

ya dumbarse

What about assaulting Jews down at the local pub?

Depends on their motive now doesn't it. Roll Eyes

What if they beat up Jews down at the local pub to protest what is happening in the middle east?

Depends on their motive FD.

Are you going to tell us the details of your spineless apologetics John, or do you want me to guess?

I know you start frothing at the mouth every time anyone dare criticise the Israelis fd, but you need to calm down, untwist your panties, and take a deep breath. Now that you've done that, be specific, what part of my comment are you struggling with?

Do you always spinelessly apologise for Muslims who beat up Jews?

Are you scared to answer fd? Or do you just not know what part you struggle with, you just know that you struggle?

freediver wrote on Jun 6^th, 2025 at 9:53am:

freediver wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2025 at 5:10pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2025 at 9:07am:

Protesting the gross inhumanity Israel is inflicting on Gaza is not antisemitic.

Were it so, there wouldn't be millions of Jewish people doing it.

How about beating up Jews down at the local pub Mothra? Is that anti semitic?

Mothra? What exactly were you trying to spinelessly apologise for here?

freediver wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 5:47am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 9^th, 2025 at 6:37pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 9^th, 2025 at 6:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 8^th, 2025 at 6:46pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 8^th, 2025 at 11:23am:

John Smith wrote on Jun 8^th, 2025 at 7:56am:

i'm sure you think that is even remotely relevant agatha ... but i've got bad news for you.

It's relevant to the OP - you retard.

really, some bloke in the usa is relevant to protestors crashing a party in brisbane? I must have missed that bit in the op Cheesy

All anti-semitic aint it? You retard.

For you islamaphobes any criticism of the Israelis is antisemitism .. thats how stupid you all are

the op is about a specific incident ya dumb arse.

What about beating up Jews down at the local pub to 'protest' Israel. Is that anti semitic John? Or are you still afraid to answer?

mothra wrote on Jun 9^th, 2025 at 8:04am:

I've often wondered but i'm going with 40%.

40% of this forum are dumber than dogshit.

You are also afraid to answer Mothra.

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Reply #2811 - Jun 17^th, 2025 at 1:40pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 17^th, 2025 at 1:17pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 17^th, 2025 at 1:13pm:

Can we say no to Iran developing nukes and launching them at Israel? Do you think they will listen?

That's what JCPOA was doing until Trump cancelled it.

And they were listening and complying, verified daily by the International Atomic Energy Agency.

Do you always tell lies, or only about Jews?

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/iaea-board-declares-iran-breach-non-proliferation-duties-diplomats-say-2025-06-12/

IAEA board declares Iran in breach of non-proliferation obligation

Kanga? Why are you spreading the Islamic supremacists lies for them?

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Reply #2812 - Jun 17^th, 2025 at 7:38pm

Kanga is sticking by his story. Even when Muslim extremists start building nuclear weapons with an openly stated intention of wiping out the Jews, he still need to make up lies to defend them. Even the IAEA cannot convince Kanga of what the IAEA thinks.

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 17^th, 2025 at 5:21pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 17^th, 2025 at 3:16pm:

So when you defended Iran by saying they were "listening and complying, verified daily by the International Atomic Energy Agency," you really meant they were not listening, were engaged in a festering standoff with the IAEA, and that the IAEA had declared Iran in breach of its non-proliferation obligations? And you insist that I was lying by quoting the article?

So, not interested in good-faith discussion then.

I thought as much.

Firstly, I'm not defending Iran.

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it's wilful misrepresentation

So you just happened to leave out the bit about the festering standoff between the IAEA and Iran, and the fact that the IAEA had declared Iran in breach of its non-proliferation obligations when you claimed Iran was "listening and complying, verified daily by the International Atomic Energy Agency"?

Or do you actually think Iran's non-compliance only began because of Trump?

Can you explain how "festering standoff" means the same thing as "verified daily"?

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The May 31 IAEA report, a board-mandated "comprehensive" account of developments, found three of the four locations "were part of an undeclared structured nuclear programme carried out by Iran until the early 2000s and that some activities used undeclared nuclear material".

Kanga are you getting Trump mixed up with Bush Snr? Do you play spin the wheel to figure out which US president to blame for Muslims trying to wipe out the Jews?

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Reply #2813 - Jun 18^th, 2025 at 2:03pm

Even when it was pointed out to him, Smith couldn't see it. Apparently that is because the Jews are confused, not Smith.

John Smith wrote on Jun 18^th, 2025 at 9:33am:

Even the isrealis have now given up the pretense that they are shooting at hamas, who is hiding behind civilians

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"The IDF regrets any harm to uninvolved individuals and operates to minimise harm as much as possible to them while maintaining the safety of our troops."

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Reply #2814 - Jun 18^th, 2025 at 3:17pm

Just to clarify John, are you claiming that you know the Jews have "given up the pretense" as you put it, because of things the Jew did not say?

And you know the Jew has never said these things because it was not quoted exactly as you demand he say it in an article you stumbled across on the internet in which he said a bunch of other things?

Never mind that the exact quote you expect the Jew to say is so stupid that it only reveals your naiveté about how you think war is conducted, or at least, how you think the Jews should conduct war.

And the fact that the Jew said other things that are almost the exact opposite of what you concluded must be attributed to confusion on the part of the Jew, and not to your confusion, your hatred of Jews, and your eagerness to spread lies about Jews at every opportunity?

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Reply #2819 - Oct 13^th, 2025 at 9:18pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 8:42pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 1:50pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 13^th, 2025 at 1:11pm:

Tut, tut, such a silly judgement. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Why?
You want blasphemy laws returned to protect Islam?

Would you also want to jail bible burners? Or only those who offend Islam?

Whats wrong with giving a religious belief legal protection? Christianity enjoys it in many Christian states, why not Islam? Islam is just as majestic as Christianity. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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