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Reply #105 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 2:22pm

Ajax wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 12:28pm:

You really are a sad individual aren't you.

The only thing that's sad is that your responses don't address the points that were made, which is probably because you have no idea of the issues in question.

I have shown this time and time again. You are inept at very simple arithmetic, and you failed to address any of the points in that article.

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Dude empirical data doesn't lie and as long as you try to make out as though empirical data is this or that, you will also hang yourself.

Dude, you wouldn't know what empirical data was unless you cut and pasted it from Joanne Nova or Anthony Watts.

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Stop putting your faith in computer circulation models,

What the hell is a computer circulation model and how does it relate to Argos temperature data? I have no idea what you're talking about.

You need to speak something other than gibberish.

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Reply #107 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 7:10pm

To all that may read these global warming religious silly inclinations as to why the glaciers and arctic are melting.

Just google it and you will find that the arctic and glaciers started melting about 200 years ago.

It had nothing to do with the miniscule amount of CO2 that man throws up into the atmosphere.

The alarmists who control this forum aren't interested in analysing the science of both sides they only want to scare the sh!t out of people into backing their religion.

Sure man's small and miniscule amount of CO2 probably has played a small and miniscule part in the warming we have observed.

But these AGW zealots are blaming all the warming on man's CO2 emissions.

Even though we are coming out of a mini ice age.

How can you take these people seriously......?????

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Reply #108 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 8:55pm

Ajax wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 7:10pm:

To all that may read these global warming religious silly inclinations as to why the glaciers and arctic are melting.

Just google it and you will find that the arctic and glaciers started melting about 200 years ago.

It had nothing to do with the miniscule amount of CO2 that man throws up into the atmosphere.

The alarmists who control this forum aren't interested in analysing the science of both sides they only want to scare the sh!t out of people into backing their religion.

Sure man's small and miniscule amount of CO2 probably has played a small and miniscule part in the warming we have observed.

But these AGW zealots are blaming all the warming on man's CO2 emissions.

Even though we are coming out of a mini ice age.

How can you take these people seriously......?????

As usual, baseless assertions with no data to back them up. Where's your data?

I've already shown a correlation coefficient of 0.86 for the past 50 years data showing a strong correlation between CO2 and Global mean surface temperatures.

How do you suppose that we measure the concentration of gases in the atmosphere? Usually an instrument called a Long Path Fourier Transfer Infrared Spectrometer is used. Of course there are many other methods that can be used, but the readings agree very closely.

We measure gas concentrations, including CO2 using Infrared radiation. It's not theoretical. It's a well established practical measurement. It is established beyond the shadow of a doubt that carbon dioxide absorbs in the Long Wave Infrared, and the extent at which it absorbs. Radiative Forcing can be measured.

I don't expect you to understand that Ajax, but hopefully others will.

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Global cooling started. Reply #109 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 9:02pm polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 5:49pm: note how summer sea ice extent has more than halved since 1900. And no evidence of any significant melting before about 1950. Ajax - about that 200 year continuous melting - Did you lie, or did you just refer to Monckton? (same thing).
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Reply #110 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 9:14pm

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High-Arctic Heat Tops 1,800-Year High, Says Study
Modern Spike Outmatches Naturally Driven 'Medieval Warm Period'

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Summers on the Norwegian archipelago of Svalbard are now warmer than at any other time in the last 1,800 years, including during medieval times when parts of the northern hemisphere were as hot as, or hotter, than today, according to a new study in the journal Geology.

“The Medieval Warm Period was not as uniformly warm as we once thought--we can start calling it the Medieval Period again,” said the study’s lead author, William D’Andrea, a climate scientist at Columbia University’s Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory. “Our record indicates that recent summer temperatures on Svalbard are greater than even the warmest periods at that time.”

The naturally driven Medieval Warm Period, from about 950 to 1250, has been a favorite time for people who deny evidence that humans are heating the planet with industrial greenhouse gases. But the climate reconstruction from Svalbard casts new doubt on that era’s reach, and undercuts skeptics who argue that current warming is also natural. Since 1987, summers on Svalbard have been 2 degrees to 2.5 degrees C (3.6 to 4.5 degrees F) hotter than they were there during warmest parts of the Medieval Warm Period, the study found.

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Global cooling started. Reply #111 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 2:57am Some more perspective
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Reply #112 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 10:15am

muso wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 9:02pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 5:49pm:

note how summer sea ice extent has more than halved since 1900.

And no evidence of any significant melting before about 1950.

Ajax - about that 200 year continuous melting - Did you lie, or did you just refer to Monckton? (same thing).

The question is why are you telling lies....???

I'm sure you must have looked it up that the arctic has been melting for the last 200 years or so.

September 1957 - arctic decreases by 40%

May 1947 - arctic melting

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/22429983?searchTerm=climate%20change&sea...

November 1922 - arctic melting

http://docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/050/mwr-050-11-0589a.pdf

Seriously dude when you present the facts present the overall picture and not just the cherry picked information that suits your cause.

Otherwise how do you expect to be taken seriously.....?????

BTW where was the manmade CO2 emissions back then...???

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Reply #113 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 10:25am

MOTR wrote on Sep 16^th, 2013 at 2:57am:

Some more perspective

Considering we had cooling from 1940 to 1970 it would make sense that the arctic would increase.

Now that we are finishing a warming trend the opposite is true.

Lets see if we revert back to a cooling trend which is suggested by data from the last ten years or so.

Then AGW religion will die on its arse.......!!!!!

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Figure 2 shows the following periods for relative global cooling and warming phases:

1. 30-years of global cooling from 1880 to 1910
2. 30-years of global warming from 1910 to 1940
3. 30-years of global cooling from 1940 to 1970
4. 30-years of global warming from 1970 to 2000

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Global cooling started. Reply #114 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 10:58am Sounds like an incantation.
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Reply #115 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 12:46pm

muso wrote on Sep 16^th, 2013 at 10:58am:

Sounds like an incantation.

Just facts dude........??????

You know like these same clowns that where screaming for a new ice age in the 1970's cause we had 30 years of cooling and even thought about melting the arctic to save the planet....????

Didn't think about those cuddly polar bears back then did they....????

Now they want to tax the air we breath to supposedly save the planet........?????/

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