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Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:23pm

Likely make up according to the Australian website

Greens 10

Labor 27

Libs and Nats 33

Others 2
Xenophon
DLP

In doubt

1 seat in SA ~ 3 way between Xenophon, Libs, and Greens

1 seat in Qld ~ 3 way between
Katter, Palmer and Greens

1 in NSW ~ 2 way between
1 Nation and Libs

A.C.T ~ 2 way between
Libs and Greens.

Unlikely Abbott will get control so to be prepared, to me the most likely path for Abbott would to call a DD at the first opportunity before people go off the coalition.

Agree?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/election-2013/liberal-hopes-of-...

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39397 Gender:	Re: The Senate Reply #1 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:24pm Let's hope so. PUP will get more.
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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: The Senate Reply #2 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:26pm 10 for the Greens? That doesn't sound right to me. Also, the last NSW spot is likely to be between One Nation and the Greens, not One Nation and the Coalition.
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Re: The Senate
Reply #3 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:29pm

____ wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:23pm:

the most likely path for Abbott would to call a DD at the first opportunity before people go off the coalition.

Bring it on baby!

He couldn't possibly give a bigger boost to the greens by calling an effective referendum on climate change.

By the way, I've been hearing the media rabbit on about double dissolutions for as long as I can remember. But it never happens.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: The Senate Reply #4 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:33pm That would be a great result. There doesn't seem to be much outstanding regarding their costings, so I wouldn't expect that to change anyone's opinion much. I certainly don't see SURPLUS standing out in that lot of mediocrity.
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PZ547 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9282 Gender:	Re: The Senate Reply #5 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:35pm . . People decided their vote weeks/months/years ago Nothing said here or throughout the campaigns will change their minds
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Re: The Senate
Reply #6 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:38pm

matty wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:26pm:

10 for the Greens? That doesn't sound right to me. Also, the last NSW spot is likely to be between One Nation and the Greens, not One Nation and the Coalition.

NSW
Oz has it between 1 Nation and Libs.
Go Greens' Cate Faehrmann.

Also they are giving a seat to the Greens in WA, where Scott Ludlam has a bit of a challenge considering so called progressive parties like Wiki and Sex are preferencing the hard right over the Greens.

10 is the total already and re-elected ... plus possibly another three Greens, if they all go our way.

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Re: The Senate
Reply #7 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:46pm

____ wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:38pm:

matty wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:26pm:

10 for the Greens? That doesn't sound right to me. Also, the last NSW spot is likely to be between One Nation and the Greens, not One Nation and the Coalition.

NSW
Oz has it between 1 Nation and Libs.
Go Greens' Cate Faehrmann.

Also they are giving a seat to the Greens in WA, where Scott Ludlam has a bit of a challenge considering so called progressive parties like Wiki and Sex are preferencing the hard right over the Greens.

10 is the total already and re-elected ... plus possibly another three Greens, if they all go our way.

Just sems a bit high to me, and I hope that One Nation and the Libs get in over Cate Faehrmann. Will probably be close either way,

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39397 Gender:	Re: The Senate Reply #8 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:50pm Ya gotta laugh at Abbott saying that Labor will not cause a DD, because he reckons they will be decimated. Quaint, wot. On that basis, yed reckon he'd be encouraging them to cause one.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: The Senate Reply #9 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:54pm I don't think Zed Seselja is under any serious threat from Simon Sheikh. Also, I'll eat my hat if Nick Xenophon loses. Interesting wikileaks aren't even considered in that projection.
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Fit of Absent Mindeness Gold Member Offline We need more fits of absent mindedness Posts: 1622 Brisbane Gender:	Re: The Senate Reply #10 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:56pm It will be entertaining to see a hostile senate. Abbott will have to negotiate - something that he doesn't seem to be all that strong at.
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Re: The Senate
Reply #11 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:57pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:50pm:

Ya gotta laugh at Abbott saying that Labor will not cause a DD, because he reckons they will be decimated. Quaint, wot. On that basis, yed reckon he'd be encouraging them to cause one.

Cheesy

Also, I think Abbott needs some educating regarding how our democracy works. If the nation refuses to hand the coalition a majority in the senate, then you don't have a mandate to scrap the carbon tax Mr Abbott. Its as simple as that Angry

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Re: The Senate
Reply #12 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:04pm

PZ547 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:35pm:

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People decided their vote weeks/months/years ago

Nothing said here or throughout the campaigns will change their minds

I've worked at the polling booths and I can honestly say that quite a large percentage of people still don't have a clue who they will vote for as they walk towards the polling booths.

Most people have little interest in politics and even less knowledge about the parties or the candidates. Most people don't even know the name of their local member of parliament.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: The Senate Reply #14 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:08pm Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:56pm: It will be entertaining to see a hostile senate. Abbott will have to negotiate - something that he doesn't seem to be all that strong at. He might have to take his daughters into parliament with him, they've got negotiating power.
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