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Reply #30 - Sep 4th, 2013 at 11:09pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2013 at 10:23pm:
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Golden Retrievers & Labradors are fine.
They are the only dogs allowed in schools with kids.

ironically these are the breeds responsible for thw largest number of dog attacks. I need a shovel for all the BS in this thread.
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Reply #31 - Sep 4th, 2013 at 11:18pm
 
ian wrote on Sep 4th, 2013 at 11:09pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2013 at 10:23pm:
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Golden Retrievers & Labradors are fine.
They are the only dogs allowed in schools with kids.

ironically these are the breeds responsible for thw largest number of dog attacks. I need a shovel for all the BS in this thread.



I heard that on the radio many years ago from a vet in Melbourne.
What breed would you trust in a school with kids?
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Reply #32 - Sep 4th, 2013 at 11:18pm
 
Read this, you might learn something.


Training and aggression[edit source | editbeta]
In a domestic situation, canine aggression is normally suppressed. Exceptions are if the dog is trained to attack, feels threatened, or is provoked. It is important to remember that dogs are predators by nature, instinct is something that never completely disappears, and that predatory behavior against other animals (such as chasing other animals) may train a dog or a pack of dogs to attack humans. It is possible to acclimate a dog to common human situations in order to avoid adverse reactions by a pet. Dog experts advocate removal of a dog's food, startling a dog, and performing sudden movements in a controlled setting to teach the dog who its leader is, to defuse aggressive impulses in common situations. This also allows better animal care since owners may now remove an article directly from a dog's mouth or transport a wounded pet to seek medical attention.

Small children are especially prone to being misunderstood by dogs, in part because their size and movements can be similar to prey. Also, young children may unintentionally provoke a dog (pulling on ears or tails is common, as is surprising a sleeping dog) because of their inexperience. To avoid potential conflicts, even reliably well-behaved children and dogs should never be allowed to interact in the absence of an adult who knows and understands the dog's personality and trained cues.

Dogs with strong chase instincts, (e.g. collies, shepherds), may fail to recognize a person as a being not to be herded. They may fixate on a specific aspect of the person, such as a fast-moving, brightly colored shoe, as a prey object. This is probably the cause for the majority of non-aggressive dogs chasing cyclists and runners. In these cases, if the individual stops, the dog often loses interest since the movement has stopped. This is not always the case, and aggressive or territorial dogs might take the opportunity to attack.

Additionally, most dogs that bark at strangers, particularly when not on "their" territory, will flee if the stranger challenges it, though this is not recommended behaviour as challenging the dog is just as likely to evoke a bite. Mailmen, being the classic example, provoke a strong territorial response because they come back day after day to the dog's territory. In the dog's mind they are constantly intruding on their territory and that sets up a learned behavior.

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Unsupervised children[edit source | editbeta]
This is arguably the most critical factor in fatal dog attacks on children, who because of their small size are usually not able to withstand an attack until help arrives. Many adults survived severe dog attacks simply by virtue of the fact that they were able to sustain and fend the dogs off to some degree until assistance arrived, although the elderly are particularly vulnerable.

Children often engage in behavior that will trigger a dog attack. For example, approaching a chained dog, trying to hug or kiss an unfamiliar animal, trying to pull its tail or engaging in other behavior that the dog may feel is threatening. Behavior such as this on the part of children may invoke either an aggressive territorial response from the dog or an aggressive defensive behavior from the dog.

The age group with the second-highest amount of fatalities due to a dog attack are 2-year-old children. Over 88% of these fatalities occurred when the 2-year-old child was left unsupervised with a dog(s) or the child wandered off to the location of the dog.

Breed-specific attacks[edit source | editbeta]

Dog attacks on humans that appear most often in the news are those that require the hospitalization of the victim or those in which the victim is killed. Dogs of all sizes have mauled and killed humans, although large dogs are capable of inflicting more damage quickly.

When dogs are near humans with whom they are familiar, they normally become less aggressive. However, it should not be assumed that because a dog has been with humans, it will not attack anybody - even a family member. Caution needs to be taken when approaching new dogs for the first time.[9]

Due to the pit bull-type breeds' perceived aggression, owning such an animal is not allowed in Australia and many European countries, and in several US and Canadian localities (see breed-specific legislation for details).

It is sometimes argued that certain breeds are inherently aggressive towards humans and shouldn't be allowed at all, or that, due to the popularity of certain potentially dangerous breeds, these dogs are often owned by irresponsible owners who provide insufficient training or, worse, aggressiveness training. An opposing argument is that no breed is inherently aggressive towards humans and that regulating one breed simply moves the irresponsible owners to start focusing on breeds that haven't yet been regulated, moving the problem to other breeds. This is one of the positions taken by the American Veterinary Medical Association.[10]

Although research and analysis[1] suggests that breed-specific legislation is not completely effective in preventing dog attacks, with each new attack, pressure mounts to enact such legislation, despite indications[2] that dangerous dog legislation would be more effective—that is, focusing on specific individual dogs having exhibited signs of aggression.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_attack
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Reply #33 - Sep 4th, 2013 at 11:23pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2013 at 11:18pm:
ian wrote on Sep 4th, 2013 at 11:09pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 4th, 2013 at 10:23pm:
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Golden Retrievers & Labradors are fine.
They are the only dogs allowed in schools with kids.

ironically these are the breeds responsible for thw largest number of dog attacks. I need a shovel for all the BS in this thread.



I heard that on the radio many years ago from a vet in Melbourne.
What breed would you trust in a school with kids?


he was probably referring to dogs specifically trained not to react to children yelling, pulling tails etc ... I wouldn't recommend letting any dog into a school yard unless under the strictest controls ...
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Reply #34 - Sep 4th, 2013 at 11:41pm
 
Maybe the vet was meaning that - I can't remember - it was so long ago.

He did specifically mention only Labs & Retrievers.
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Reply #35 - Sep 5th, 2013 at 8:14am
 
In my personal experience I've found dogs with a bit of retriever in them very gentle, but I know of people who have been bailed up by them and scared out of their wits.

There are a lot of cattle dogs or crosses around and they can be extremely aggressive, but they tend to give one bite and that's enough for them.

Terriers are the worst, but of course you don't get mauled to death by a small one.

Pit bulls, mastiffs, rotweilers, dobermans, German shepherds and bull terriers would be worst.



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Reply #36 - Sep 5th, 2013 at 8:31am
 
The dog sounds like a normal dog being territorial and protecting its patch. The owner should have ensured the dog was under control either by training or restricting its access to anybody who enters the property.
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Reply #37 - Sep 5th, 2013 at 8:34am
 
mantra wrote on Sep 5th, 2013 at 8:14am:
In my personal experience I've found dogs with a bit of retriever in them very gentle, but I know of people who have been bailed up by them and scared out of their wits.

There are a lot of cattle dogs or crosses around and they can be extremely aggressive, but they tend to give one bite and that's enough for them.

Terriers are the worst, but of course you don't get mauled to death by a small one.

Pit bulls, mastiffs, rotweilers, dobermans, German shepherds and bull terriers would be worst.






Absolute rubbish.
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Reply #38 - Sep 5th, 2013 at 8:38am
 
viewpoint wrote on Sep 5th, 2013 at 8:31am:
The dog sounds like a normal dog being territorial and protecting its patch. The owner should have ensured the dog was under control either by training or restricting its access to anybody who enters the property.



Yes it was just a normal dog that barked at an intruder -
& was killed by a trigger happy policeman.


Shame on the police.
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Reply #39 - Sep 5th, 2013 at 10:14am
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 5th, 2013 at 8:38am:
viewpoint wrote on Sep 5th, 2013 at 8:31am:
The dog sounds like a normal dog being territorial and protecting its patch. The owner should have ensured the dog was under control either by training or restricting its access to anybody who enters the property.



Yes it was just a normal dog that barked at an intruder -
& was killed by a trigger happy policeman.


Shame on the police.


he didn't just bark he was running at the cop ... would you wait to see if he bit you or licked you if you were in the cops shoes? The dog would weigh 60 - 70 kgs .... that's a big dog to be charging at you. I bet you would have either shot him as well, or turned and run away.
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Reply #40 - Sep 5th, 2013 at 10:19am
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2013 at 10:14am:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 5th, 2013 at 8:38am:
viewpoint wrote on Sep 5th, 2013 at 8:31am:
The dog sounds like a normal dog being territorial and protecting its patch. The owner should have ensured the dog was under control either by training or restricting its access to anybody who enters the property.



Yes it was just a normal dog that barked at an intruder -
& was killed by a trigger happy policeman.


Shame on the police.


he didn't just bark he was running at the cop ... would you wait to see if he bit you or licked you if you were in the cops shoes? The dog would weigh 60 - 70 kgs .... that's a big dog to be charging at you. I bet you would have either shot him as well, or turned and run away.



I would have talked to it & said -

what a nice doggy.

It would then have wagged it's tail & we would have all been friends.
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Reply #41 - Sep 5th, 2013 at 10:37am
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 5th, 2013 at 10:19am:
I would have talked to it & said -

what a nice doggy.

It would then have wagged it's tail & we would have all been friends.



Haha. I'm not sure whether I believe you Bobby. Most people would instinctively freeze in fear. The dog would sense it and it's unpredictable as to what it's reaction might be.




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Reply #42 - Sep 5th, 2013 at 10:42am
 

"police humanely destroy bred-to-kill beast."

well done coppers, thanks.
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Reply #43 - Sep 5th, 2013 at 11:41am
 
I second the notion:

Shame on these police


Heaven help anyone whose car backfired, or kid whos balloon popped in their vicinity - they'd be in the morgue, and half of ozpolitic will be defending the trigger-happy pussies who killed them.
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Reply #44 - Sep 5th, 2013 at 11:49am
 
... wrote on Sep 5th, 2013 at 11:41am:
I second the notion:

Shame on these police


Heaven help anyone whose car backfired, or kid whos balloon popped in their vicinity - they'd be in the morgue, and half of ozpolitic will be defending the trigger-happy pussies who killed them.


How would you react if you had this animal running towards you in a menacing way?

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