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Reply #15 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:26pm

ian wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 8:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 8:49pm:

Read the link - it was a pet that only licked people.

Right. Get real, a Bull Mastiff defending its territory is a lethal killing machine regardless how it behaves to its owners. I have had direct experience with these types of dogs. they are very dangerous if they dont consider you part of their pack.

And so have I.

Rotties, Pit-Bulls, Staffies, and a Dobermann.

And it ALL comes down to training and socialisation.

Responsible ownership, basically.

A dog that's properly trained and socialised WILL NOT ATTACK.

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Reply #16 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:20pm:

In the good old days you were allowed to have a big dog to deter burglars.
No one should be walking up your driveway without permission.

How else were they supposed to speak to the homeowners? Call out from the front gate?

Dogs are still good burglar deterrants. Let them loose in the backyard in a safe enclosure - but during the day you expect to get the occasional visitor - so they should at least be restrained at the front of the house.

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Reply #17 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:33pm

mantra wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:00pm:

Come on guys - who hasn't had a dog bark at them?

The police were in the dog's driveway -
they were trespassing.

The family might be considered by some people to be irresponsible. Most people don't like walking through a gate when there's a dog loose, but there was no warning - the dog just ran straight out of the house.

I've had big dogs before and would never let them out the front door unsupervised where they could quite easily attack someone. They had never bitten anyone - but there is always the first time.

And what if by accident the dog did get out the front door &
barked at a policeman & then got killed for it?

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Reply #18 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:36pm

Kat wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:26pm:

Responsible ownership, basically.

A dog that's properly trained and socialised WILL NOT ATTACK.

I talk about reality not some sort of utopian myth where everyone takes intelligent responsibility, which they dont and never will. The truth is that some dogs are bred to be guard dogs and are extremely territorial and will react viciously to anyone enroaching on their territory, its bred into them and nothing will change it. Dogs are also pack animals and must know that their place in the pack is below humans, most people dont know this and never will understand it. All those breeds you mention should be banned entirely, they are just ego dogs.

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Reply #20 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:02pm

ian wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:38pm:

Kat wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:26pm:

A dog that's properly trained and socialised WILL NOT ATTACK.

Oh yeah, and this bit is total cr@p. Any dog will attack when it feels threatened by a human it doesnt recognise as one of its pack.

One of my friends had a Dobermann & it was a sooky bubba. Grin

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Reply #21 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:06pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:20pm:

In the good old days you were allowed to have a big dog to deter burglars.No one should be walking up your driveway without permission.

How do you get permission if you can't knock on the door? I'm not saying you can't have a guard dog, but you have to be responsible with a dog. Especially one that big that will scare everyone it runs at.

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Reply #22 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:09pm

ian wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:38pm:

Kat wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:26pm:

A dog that's properly trained and socialised WILL NOT ATTACK.

Oh yeah, and this bit is total cr@p. Any dog will attack when it feels threatened by a human it doesnt recognise as one of its pack.

rubbish . He will attack if you threaten him or his pack, a well trained and socialised dog does not interpret someone walking up to the door as a threat.

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Reply #23 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:02pm:

ian wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:38pm:

Kat wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:26pm:

A dog that's properly trained and socialised WILL NOT ATTACK.

Oh yeah, and this bit is total cr@p. Any dog will attack when it feels threatened by a human it doesnt recognise as one of its pack.

One of my friends had a Dobermann & it was a sooky bubba. Grin

I've had several ... absolutely the best dogs in my opinion.

My male was 50kg, he had a habit of sniffing peoples crotches.... because of his size everyone would panic and think he was about to bite their balls off. My bitch was a sweetie. Although like all women, she could be very temperamental.

Dobermans must be trained. Fail to train them properly and you are asking for trouble

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Reply #24 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:15pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:20pm:

In the good old days you were allowed to have a big dog to deter burglars.No one should be walking up your driveway without permission.

How do you get permission if you can't knock on the door? I'm not saying you can't have a guard dog, but you have to be responsible with a dog. Especially one that big that will scare everyone it runs at.

Good point - you need a fence with a buzzer or intercom unit at the gate.

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Reply #25 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:16pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:02pm:

ian wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:38pm:

Kat wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:26pm:

A dog that's properly trained and socialised WILL NOT ATTACK.

Oh yeah, and this bit is total cr@p. Any dog will attack when it feels threatened by a human it doesnt recognise as one of its pack.

One of my friends had a Dobermann & it was a sooky bubba. Grin

I've had several ... absolutely the best dogs in my opinion.

My male was 50kg, he had a habit of sniffing peoples crotches.... because of his size everyone would panic and think he was about to bite their balls off. My bitch was a sweetie. Although like all women, she could be very temperamental.

Dobermans must be trained. Fail to train them properly and you are asking for trouble

All dogs need to be trained & socialized with people & other dogs.

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Reply #26 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:16pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:15pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:20pm:

In the good old days you were allowed to have a big dog to deter burglars.No one should be walking up your driveway without permission.

How do you get permission if you can't knock on the door? I'm not saying you can't have a guard dog, but you have to be responsible with a dog. Especially one that big that will scare everyone it runs at.

Good point - you need a fence with a buzzer or intercom unit at the gate.

If you have that, you can let the dog out the front. My dog was restricted to the backyard by day, and only allowed in front at night.

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Reply #27 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:17pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:02pm:

ian wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:38pm:

Kat wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:26pm:

A dog that's properly trained and socialised WILL NOT ATTACK.

Oh yeah, and this bit is total cr@p. Any dog will attack when it feels threatened by a human it doesnt recognise as one of its pack.

One of my friends had a Dobermann & it was a sooky bubba. Grin

I've had several ... absolutely the best dogs in my opinion.

My male was 50kg, he had a habit of sniffing peoples crotches.... because of his size everyone would panic and think he was about to bite their balls off. My bitch was a sweetie. Although like all women, she could be very temperamental.

Dobermans must be trained. Fail to train them properly and you are asking for trouble

All dogs need to be trained & socialized with people & other dogs.

it tends to not to be such a problem when its a Chihuahua

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Reply #28 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:23pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:02pm:

ian wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:38pm:

Kat wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:26pm:

A dog that's properly trained and socialised WILL NOT ATTACK.

Oh yeah, and this bit is total cr@p. Any dog will attack when it feels threatened by a human it doesnt recognise as one of its pack.

One of my friends had a Dobermann & it was a sooky bubba. Grin

I've had several ... absolutely the best dogs in my opinion.

My male was 50kg, he had a habit of sniffing peoples crotches.... because of his size everyone would panic and think he was about to bite their balls off. My bitch was a sweetie. Although like all women, she could be very temperamental.

Dobermans must be trained. Fail to train them properly and you are asking for trouble

All dogs need to be trained & socialized with people & other dogs.

it tends to not to be such a problem when its a Chihuahua

Golden Retrievers & Labradors are fine.
They are the only dogs allowed in schools with kids.

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Reply #29 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 11:07pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 10:09pm:

ian wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:38pm:

Kat wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:26pm:

A dog that's properly trained and socialised WILL NOT ATTACK.

Oh yeah, and this bit is total cr@p. Any dog will attack when it feels threatened by a human it doesnt recognise as one of its pack.

rubbish . He will attack if you threaten him or his pack, a well trained and socialised dog does not interpret someone walking up to the door as a threat.

You clearly dont know what you are talking about, if you understood one little bit about dog packs you wouldnt have made this stupid statement.

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