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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #240 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:09pm

Longweekend,
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come back to me when you've red the entire Bible from cover to cover. and here's a clue... it ISNT on youtube.

I have read the entire Bible many times.
You can't discount a video because it's on Youtube.

The video in question is actually a full length movie
dealing with the inquisition
that has been copied into low resolution for youtube.

I suggest you watch all of the videos that Nail & I post on Ozpolitic
to help with your ignorance on important matters.
You were once an inquisition denier & only through my efforts
did you finally learn the truth -
the history of your much loved religion is worse by 1000 times
than that which happened as a result of the Nazis.

I will continue to post the truth without your permission.

you are forgiven

namaste

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111572 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse Reply #241 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:10pm The video that Longy will not watch:
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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #242 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 8:04pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 10:43am:

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 12:15am:

Quantum wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 11:30pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 11:17pm:

Quantum wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 11:08pm:

So people who are not in support of gay marriage are homophobic bigots and are therefore not real Christians? That is an unbelievable claim.

No - that is not unbelieveable at all.

Christ taught us to love each over and treat others as we would have them treat ourselves. That is the central tenet of Christianity.

Not discrimination based on bigotry.

Right. So anything goes from now on?

Person wants to marry his cat. This must be supported. Why? Because;

Christ taught us to love each over and treat others as we would have them treat ourselves. That is the central tenet of Christianity.

Not discrimination based on bigotry.

Person wants to marry his 6 year old son. This must be supported. Why? Because;

Christ taught us to love each over and treat others as we would have them treat ourselves. That is the central tenet of Christianity.

Not discrimination based on bigotry.

Person wants to marry his iphone. This must be supported. Why? Because;

Christ taught us to love each over and treat others as we would have them treat ourselves. That is the central tenet of Christianity.

Not discrimination based on bigotry.

Person wants to marry his brother. This must be supported. Why? Because;

Christ taught us to love each over and treat others as we would have them treat ourselves. That is the central tenet of Christianity.

Not discrimination based on bigotry.

Person wants to marry his entire family and the horse in the backyard after sticking his iphone up his arse. This must be supported. Why? Because;

Christ taught us to love each over and treat others as we would have them treat ourselves. That is the central tenet of Christianity.

Not discrimination based on bigotry.

And this is just marriage! I guess if someone wanted to rape and kill hundreds of people because they were born with a deformity in their brain leading them to not understand the evil of their behaviour, this must be supported. Why? Because;

Christ taught us to love each over and treat others as we would have them treat ourselves. That is the central tenet of Christianity.

Not discrimination based on bigotry.

Anything goes, because the rabbit told us so.

We live in a secular society where religion plays very little role in setting our laws.....It is people using the bible to state their case that have no basis for their argument as religion plays no active part in Parliament....Laws are based on fairness and equality not bigotry.....Your whole argument only serves to prove why religion has no place in our Parliamentary system of Government!!!

Roll Eyes

you answered not a single objection raised but merely return to your anti-religion rant. why could you not answer the question?

I have no problem with religion.....It is the faithful who have NFI!!!

Roll Eyes

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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #243 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 9:43pm

Phil,
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Person wants to marry his entire family and the horse in the backyard after sticking his iphone up his arse.
This must be supported. Why? Because;

Christ taught us to love each over and treat others as we would have them treat ourselves. That is the central tenet of Christianity.

Not discrimination based on bigotry.

Very funny. Grin

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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #244 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 9:54pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:31pm:

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:43pm:

As a gay person who just happened to be raised in the church of "love/peace/tolerance*" *(as long as you were straight!) and never believed any of it, it amuzes me that some of these so called "christians" don't actually know what that book of theirs says.

It couldn't possibly be that Christians don't in fact follow the bible to a T and some of them are bigots and use the bible to mask this bigotry could it?

When are we going to make shellfish, working on Sundays and a wearing 2 types of material/playing football (no pig skin!) illegal?

What about stoning non virgins on their wedding night?

It appears that they can pick and choose what they do and don't follow - who knew?

As religion declines in Australia:

http://blogs.wsj.com/dispatch/2012/06/21/australians-lose-their-faith/

Australia’s 4.8 million nonreligious in the 2011 census was also about a million more than was recorded five years earlier at the last national headcount.

Even better for generation y:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/generation-y-turning-away-from-religion/2006/08/05/1154198378623.html

LESS than half Australia's young people believe in a god and many believe there is little truth in religion, a new study has found.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12811197

A study using census data from nine countries shows that religion there is set for extinction, say researchers.

The team took census data stretching back as far as a century from countries in which the census queried religious affiliation: Australia, Austria, Canada, the Czech Republic, Finland, Ireland, the Netherlands, New Zealand and Switzerland.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nigel-barber/atheism-to-defeat-religion-by-2038_b_1565108.html

Averaging across the two measures of atheism, the entire world population would cross the atheist threshold by about 2038 (average of 2035 for disbelief and 2041 for religiosity). Although 2038 may seem improbably fast, this requires only a shift of approximately 1 percent per year whether in religiosity or belief in God. Using the Human Development Index as a clock suggests an even earlier arrival for the atheist transition (1).

Is the loss of religious belief something fear? Contrary to the claims of religious leaders, Godless countries are highly moral nations with an unusual level of social trust, economic equality, low crime and a high level of civic engagement (5). We could do with some of that.

I really couldn't care less if someone is religious or what they believe - as it doesn't effect me/is personal why should I.

Of course - It appears that it's fun to judge others (Judge not lest ye be judged!).

I don't know which church you went to but obviously your understanding of the bible remains extremely poor.

Then why don't you and you churchy mates go out and kill homos just like it says in your bible ??

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111572 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse Reply #245 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 9:58pm Nail, Quote: Then why don't you and you churchy mates go out and kill homos just like it says in your bible ?? Hi Nail, Religious clowns like him just cherry pick the Bible for any bits they like. If Longy truly read his bible he would discredit it as nonsense.
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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #246 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 10:07pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:39pm:

Rudd stated that Saint Paul said in the new testament that slaves should obey their masters.

He is correct. end of story.

nah - rudd said "slavery is the natural condition as the bible says it is"
Which is wrong.

slaves did and do exist. which is different to what rudd says.

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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #247 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 10:09pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 9:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:31pm:

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:43pm:

As a gay person who just happened to be raised in the church of "love/peace/tolerance*" *(as long as you were straight!) and never believed any of it, it amuzes me that some of these so called "christians" don't actually know what that book of theirs says.

It couldn't possibly be that Christians don't in fact follow the bible to a T and some of them are bigots and use the bible to mask this bigotry could it?

When are we going to make shellfish, working on Sundays and a wearing 2 types of material/playing football (no pig skin!) illegal?

What about stoning non virgins on their wedding night?

It appears that they can pick and choose what they do and don't follow - who knew?

As religion declines in Australia:

http://blogs.wsj.com/dispatch/2012/06/21/australians-lose-their-faith/

Australia’s 4.8 million nonreligious in the 2011 census was also about a million more than was recorded five years earlier at the last national headcount.

Even better for generation y:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/generation-y-turning-away-from-religion/2006/08/05/1154198378623.html

LESS than half Australia's young people believe in a god and many believe there is little truth in religion, a new study has found.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12811197

A study using census data from nine countries shows that religion there is set for extinction, say researchers.

The team took census data stretching back as far as a century from countries in which the census queried religious affiliation: Australia, Austria, Canada, the Czech Republic, Finland, Ireland, the Netherlands, New Zealand and Switzerland.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nigel-barber/atheism-to-defeat-religion-by-2038_b_1565108.html

Averaging across the two measures of atheism, the entire world population would cross the atheist threshold by about 2038 (average of 2035 for disbelief and 2041 for religiosity). Although 2038 may seem improbably fast, this requires only a shift of approximately 1 percent per year whether in religiosity or belief in God. Using the Human Development Index as a clock suggests an even earlier arrival for the atheist transition (1).

Is the loss of religious belief something fear? Contrary to the claims of religious leaders, Godless countries are highly moral nations with an unusual level of social trust, economic equality, low crime and a high level of civic engagement (5). We could do with some of that.

I really couldn't care less if someone is religious or what they believe - as it doesn't effect me/is personal why should I.

Of course - It appears that it's fun to judge others (Judge not lest ye be judged!).

I don't know which church you went to but obviously your understanding of the bible remains extremely poor.

Then why don't you and you churchy mates go out and kill homos just like it says in your bible ??

don't argue with longy ... he's an expert in everything, it's everyone who is stupid Cheesy

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40951 Gender:	Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse Reply #248 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 10:13pm imagine the smirking nassacist tubby controlfreaks attitude when in private ? he attacks a pastor in a public forum like this.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111572 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse Reply #249 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 10:19pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 10:13pm: imagine the smirking nassacist tubby controlfreaks attitude when in private ? he attacks a pastor in a public forum like this. Hi Sprint, why have homos hijacked the Greens & now the Labor party? In Iran they would hang people with those views.
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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #250 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 10:29pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 10:13pm:

imagine the smirking nassacist tubby controlfreaks attitude when in private ?

he attacks a pastor in a public forum like this.

If you're referring to Rudd , I think the pastor attacked him first ... who the bugger is the paster to tell Rudd his choice is unchristian?

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #251 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 10:30pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 10:13pm:

imagine the smirking nassacist tubby controlfreaks attitude when in private ?

he attacks a pastor in a public forum like this.

Except that he didn't.

A dick-headed sky-pilot tried to invoke God to argue against same sex marriage.

And Rudd pwned him.

Fact.

Suck it up, and move on.

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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #252 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 10:43pm

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:43pm:

When are we going to make shellfish, working on Sundays and a wearing 2 types of material/playing football (no pig skin!) illegal?

What about stoning non virgins on their wedding night?

It appears that they can pick and choose what they do and don't follow - who knew?

Homosexual union, whether briefly or for life, cannot be a bridge between the generations. But marriage is. Whether it succeeds or fail, that is it's purpose.

So-called gay marriage can never serve that purpose, carry out that function and meet that social or personal need, so it just playing dress-ups and mummies and daddies. It's infantile. Like the anal and genital fixation that it is.

On another level it is just an attempt at justifying and normalising and equalising homosexual sex when it is evidently not the norm and not equal. The 'we love each other' explanation for it is silly and a diversion from this basic aim of normalising homosexual sex. Lots of people love each other and have no sex of any kind with each other - brothers, sisters, parent and children, friends. Nobody is clamouring for them to get 'marriage equality' even though they also love one another.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40951 Gender:	Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse Reply #253 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 10:43pm the pastor did not ask that. he said "People are ringing me up asking why can they trust you when you change your mind on things, such as homos getting married." the query was on rudd changing his mind.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse Reply #254 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 10:45pm Dnarever wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:39pm: Rudd stated that Saint Paul said in the new testament that slaves should obey their masters. He is correct. end of story. Where does Paul say that?
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