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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111572 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse Reply #225 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:34pm Hi Longy, you need to watch this movie to find out about Christianity:
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111572 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse Reply #226 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:34pm .
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59987 Here Gender:	Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse Reply #227 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:39pm Rudd stated that Saint Paul said in the new testament that slaves should obey their masters. He is correct. end of story.
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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #228 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:43pm

As a gay person who just happened to be raised in the church of "love/peace/tolerance*" *(as long as you were straight!) and never believed any of it, it amuzes me that some of these so called "christians" don't actually know what that book of theirs says.

It couldn't possibly be that Christians don't in fact follow the bible to a T and some of them are bigots and use the bible to mask this bigotry could it?

When are we going to make shellfish, working on Sundays and a wearing 2 types of material/playing football (no pig skin!) illegal?

What about stoning non virgins on their wedding night?

It appears that they can pick and choose what they do and don't follow - who knew?

As religion declines in Australia:

http://blogs.wsj.com/dispatch/2012/06/21/australians-lose-their-faith/

Australia’s 4.8 million nonreligious in the 2011 census was also about a million more than was recorded five years earlier at the last national headcount.

Even better for generation y:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/generation-y-turning-away-from-religion/2006/08/05/1154198378623.html

LESS than half Australia's young people believe in a god and many believe there is little truth in religion, a new study has found.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12811197

A study using census data from nine countries shows that religion there is set for extinction, say researchers.

The team took census data stretching back as far as a century from countries in which the census queried religious affiliation: Australia, Austria, Canada, the Czech Republic, Finland, Ireland, the Netherlands, New Zealand and Switzerland.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nigel-barber/atheism-to-defeat-religion-by-2038_b_1565108.html

Averaging across the two measures of atheism, the entire world population would cross the atheist threshold by about 2038 (average of 2035 for disbelief and 2041 for religiosity). Although 2038 may seem improbably fast, this requires only a shift of approximately 1 percent per year whether in religiosity or belief in God. Using the Human Development Index as a clock suggests an even earlier arrival for the atheist transition (1).

Is the loss of religious belief something fear? Contrary to the claims of religious leaders, Godless countries are highly moral nations with an unusual level of social trust, economic equality, low crime and a high level of civic engagement (5). We could do with some of that.

I really couldn't care less if someone is religious or what they believe - as it doesn't effect me/is personal why should I.

Of course - It appears that it's fun to judge others (Judge not lest ye be judged!).

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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #229 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:28pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:21pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:04pm:

Just to let you know, the Abolition of Slavery movement was spearheaded by evangelical and Quaker Christians and they relied on Biblical (ie New Testament) arguments as the moral basis of abolishing slavery.

and was opposed by people not dissimilar to the lefties on here. That same Christian ethic created the worlds first age of consent which was amazingly OPPOSED by the self-same moral vacuums.

Horseshit.

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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #230 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:31pm

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 4:43pm:

As a gay person who just happened to be raised in the church of "love/peace/tolerance*" *(as long as you were straight!) and never believed any of it, it amuzes me that some of these so called "christians" don't actually know what that book of theirs says.

It couldn't possibly be that Christians don't in fact follow the bible to a T and some of them are bigots and use the bible to mask this bigotry could it?

When are we going to make shellfish, working on Sundays and a wearing 2 types of material/playing football (no pig skin!) illegal?

What about stoning non virgins on their wedding night?

It appears that they can pick and choose what they do and don't follow - who knew?

As religion declines in Australia:

http://blogs.wsj.com/dispatch/2012/06/21/australians-lose-their-faith/

Australia’s 4.8 million nonreligious in the 2011 census was also about a million more than was recorded five years earlier at the last national headcount.

Even better for generation y:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/generation-y-turning-away-from-religion/2006/08/05/1154198378623.html

LESS than half Australia's young people believe in a god and many believe there is little truth in religion, a new study has found.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12811197

A study using census data from nine countries shows that religion there is set for extinction, say researchers.

The team took census data stretching back as far as a century from countries in which the census queried religious affiliation: Australia, Austria, Canada, the Czech Republic, Finland, Ireland, the Netherlands, New Zealand and Switzerland.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nigel-barber/atheism-to-defeat-religion-by-2038_b_1565108.html

Averaging across the two measures of atheism, the entire world population would cross the atheist threshold by about 2038 (average of 2035 for disbelief and 2041 for religiosity). Although 2038 may seem improbably fast, this requires only a shift of approximately 1 percent per year whether in religiosity or belief in God. Using the Human Development Index as a clock suggests an even earlier arrival for the atheist transition (1).

Is the loss of religious belief something fear? Contrary to the claims of religious leaders, Godless countries are highly moral nations with an unusual level of social trust, economic equality, low crime and a high level of civic engagement (5). We could do with some of that.

I really couldn't care less if someone is religious or what they believe - as it doesn't effect me/is personal why should I.

Of course - It appears that it's fun to judge others (Judge not lest ye be judged!).

I don't know which church you went to but obviously your understanding of the bible remains extremely poor.

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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #231 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:32pm

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:28pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:21pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:04pm:

Just to let you know, the Abolition of Slavery movement was spearheaded by evangelical and Quaker Christians and they relied on Biblical (ie New Testament) arguments as the moral basis of abolishing slavery.

and was opposed by people not dissimilar to the lefties on here. That same Christian ethic created the worlds first age of consent which was amazingly OPPOSED by the self-same moral vacuums.

Horseshit.

Concur.

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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #232 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:32pm

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:28pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:21pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:04pm:

Just to let you know, the Abolition of Slavery movement was spearheaded by evangelical and Quaker Christians and they relied on Biblical (ie New Testament) arguments as the moral basis of abolishing slavery.

and was opposed by people not dissimilar to the lefties on here. That same Christian ethic created the worlds first age of consent which was amazingly OPPOSED by the self-same moral vacuums.

Horseshit.

actually it is not. you would be surprised the numbers and types of people who opposed the end of slavery and the incredible people that opposed and age of consent of just TEN YEARS.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #233 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:35pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 2:02pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 12:09pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 10:55am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 10:52am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 10:43am:

Maqqa wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2013 at 8:48pm:

I have gone to various online Bible sites and did a search on "slavery natural condition"

Couldn't find it

And NATURALLY, you WOULDN'T

At NO stage did the Prime Minister give any impression that slavery as a "natural condition" was in any way a DIRECT QUOTE from ANY Bible

It was an interpretation - as HE read it
And a VALID interpretation - at THAT

Wasting your time Buzz - they only understand what they want.

I have no idea why conservatives lose the ability to comprehend anything they don't like.

and we have no idea why people like you apparently believe in nothing, stand for nothing and fall for everything. You wouldn't know a principle if it bit you in the bum. Would wouldn't recognise a moral or ethical position if it attacked you in the street.

Other than hating Abbott, I see nothing you actually stand for or believe. it must be lonely in the dark hours of early morning and you awake to find you believe in nothing.

"People like us" believe in social justice, helping the poor sick and vulnerable in our society, not judging other people for choices they make that dont affect or damage others, righting economic injustice.

Just like jesus did.

That's why "people like us" vote for left leaning , socially progressive parties and reject the policies of right wing conservatives.

You can believe in the nonsense of "bible inerrancy" all you like mate , but you are judged on deeds not words.

You righties have highjacked christianity and turned it into a cold hearted , small minded cult of selfishness and cruelty.

yeah and who runs all those schools? church. who runs all thos hospitals? church. who founded social welfare? church

yeah terrible people

What have schools , hospitals and the founding of social welfare got to do with the highjacking of christianity by people like you?

Non sequiturs galore.

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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #234 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:36pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:32pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:28pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:21pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:04pm:

Just to let you know, the Abolition of Slavery movement was spearheaded by evangelical and Quaker Christians and they relied on Biblical (ie New Testament) arguments as the moral basis of abolishing slavery.

and was opposed by people not dissimilar to the lefties on here. That same Christian ethic created the worlds first age of consent which was amazingly OPPOSED by the self-same moral vacuums.

Horseshit.

actually it is not. you would be surprised the numbers and types of people who opposed the end of slavery and the incredible people that opposed and age of consent of just TEN YEARS.

actually, it is. D1ckhead

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #235 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:37pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:32pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:28pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:21pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:04pm:

Just to let you know, the Abolition of Slavery movement was spearheaded by evangelical and Quaker Christians and they relied on Biblical (ie New Testament) arguments as the moral basis of abolishing slavery.

and was opposed by people not dissimilar to the lefties on here. That same Christian ethic created the worlds first age of consent which was amazingly OPPOSED by the self-same moral vacuums.

Horseshit.

actually it is not. you would be surprised the numbers and types of people who opposed the end of slavery and the incredible people that opposed and age of consent of just TEN YEARS.

But you know they were all lefties.

Horseshit.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111572 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse Reply #236 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:41pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:34pm: Hi Longy, you need to watch this movie to find out about Christianity: Longweekend, don't be sneaky & ignore me. Have you seen this movie or not?
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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #237 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:06pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:34pm:

Hi Longy,
you need to watch this movie to find out about Christianity:

Longweekend,
don't be sneaky & ignore me.

Have you seen this movie or not?

why would I watch any of the endless crap you post. Do you even realise how poorly you are regarded here? People on both sides of the political fence think you are a dope.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #238 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:25pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:34pm:

Hi Longy,
you need to watch this movie to find out about Christianity:

Longweekend,
don't be sneaky & ignore me.

Have you seen this movie or not?

why would I watch any of the endless crap you post. Do you even realise how poorly you are regarded here? People on both sides of the political fence think you are a dope.

Longloser,
No one on this forum supports you.
You are like an ostrich - never wanting to know the truth.

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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #239 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:44pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:25pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 5:41pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 3:34pm:

Hi Longy,
you need to watch this movie to find out about Christianity:

Longweekend,
don't be sneaky & ignore me.

Have you seen this movie or not?

why would I watch any of the endless crap you post. Do you even realise how poorly you are regarded here? People on both sides of the political fence think you are a dope.

Longloser,
No one on this forum supports you.
You are like an ostrich - never wanting to know the truth.

come back to me when you've red the entire Bible from cover to cover. and here's a clue... it ISNT on youtube.

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