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Sep 3rd, 2013 at 8:48pm
 
I have gone to various online Bible sites and did a search on "slavery natural condition"

Couldn't find it

So I wonder those who clapped and applaud Rudd's come back last night was as idiotic as he is??!!


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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-03/grant-how-could-a-christian-pm-call-the-bi...

I am appalled at how this national leader, publicly claiming "an informed conscience and a Christian conscience", misrepresented the Holy Book of the faith he confesses, on its teaching on one matter (slavery) to avoid its teaching on another matter (of marriage), in order to justify his abandonment of that biblical teaching.

Let's be clear. Even a cursory reading of the Bible would tell you it never says slavery is a "natural condition". Never. Not once.
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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #1 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 8:52pm
 
Whats amazing to me is his sudden conversion to be a champion of gay and homosexual rights soooo conveniently close to the september election,  Grin Grin
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Reply #2 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 8:58pm
 
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KEVIN RUDD: Well, mate, if I was going to have that view, the Bible also says that slavery is a natural condition. Because St Paul said in the New Testament, “Slaves be obedient to your masters.”



How in the F#cK did he make the connection between being slaves should be obedient to slavery being a natural condition??!!!
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Reply #3 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:00pm
 
You are an absolute twat, Maqqa.

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    However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you.  You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land.  You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance.  You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.  (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)


Anyone who has spent time reading the bible understands that slavery was accepted as a natural condition.

Your ignorance makes you cannon fodder for the LNP.
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Reply #4 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:02pm
 
MOTR  -

You didn't actually expect Maqqa to come up with something intelligent now did you?
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Reply #5 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:03pm
 
Maqqa, what will you do when the Libs win the election?

Hang around jerking off about the Labor opposition?

How boring is that?
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Reply #6 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:04pm
 
rudd still didn't answer the question...

two face lying bastard...

and of course he came up with something smart to try and belittle that guy.. .what a pig..
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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #7 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:06pm
 
MOTR wrote on Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:00pm:
You are an absolute twat, Maqqa.

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    However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you.  You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land.  You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance.  You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.  (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)


Anyone who has spent time reading the bible understands that slavery was accepted as a natural condition.

Your ignorance makes you cannon fodder for the LNP.



Yes - Kevin was right.


http://www.evilbible.com/Slavery.htm

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Except for murder, slavery has got to be one of the most immoral things a person can do.  Yet slavery is rampant throughout the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments.  The Bible clearly approves of slavery in many passages, and it goes so far as to tell how to obtain slaves, how hard you can beat them, and when you can have sex with the female slaves.



    Many Jews and Christians will try to ignore the moral problems of slavery by saying that these slaves were actually servants or indentured servants.  Many translations of the Bible use the word "servant", "bondservant", or "manservant" instead of "slave" to make the Bible seem less immoral than it really is.  While many slaves may have worked as household servants, that doesn't mean that they were not slaves who were bought, sold, and treated worse than livestock.



    The following passage shows that slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock.



    However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you.  You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land.  You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance.  You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.  (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)



    The following passage describes how the Hebrew slaves are to be treated.



    If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years.  Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom.  If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year.  But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him.  If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master.  But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children.  I would rather not go free.'  If he does this, his master must present him before God.  Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl.  After that, the slave will belong to his master forever.  (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)
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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #8 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:06pm
 
True Blue... wrote on Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:04pm:
rudd still didn't answer the question...

two face lying bastard...

and of course he came up with something smart to try and belittle that guy.. .what a pig..


bugger off idiot .... anyone who debates marriage equality with the line 'but the bible says' is asking to be belittled.
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Reply #9 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:24pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:06pm:
True Blue... wrote on Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:04pm:
rudd still didn't answer the question...

two face lying bastard...

and of course he came up with something smart to try and belittle that guy.. .what a pig..


bugger off idiot .... anyone who debates marriage equality with the line 'but the bible says' is asking to be belittled.


bullshit you Turd...

it just goes to show that Rudd is so low that he'll use the church to try and get votes because its obvious he doesn't believe in the Bibles word...

Let’s be clear. Even a cursory reading of the Bible would tell you it never says slavery is a “natural condition”. Never. Not once…


yet again... another lie by Rudd defended by the moronic Stooge Labor supporters... along with his bullying of a priest ffs...

lower than a snakes belly that pig..  Angry
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Reply #10 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:26pm
 
True Blue... wrote on Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:24pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:06pm:
True Blue... wrote on Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:04pm:
rudd still didn't answer the question...

two face lying bastard...

and of course he came up with something smart to try and belittle that guy.. .what a pig..


bugger off idiot .... anyone who debates marriage equality with the line 'but the bible says' is asking to be belittled.


bullshit you Turd...

it just goes to show that Rudd is so low that he'll use the church to try and get votes because its obvious he doesn't believe in the Bibles word...

Let’s be clear. Even a cursory reading of the Bible would tell you it never says slavery is a “natural condition”. Never. Not once…


yet again... another lie by Rudd defended by the moronic Stooge Labor supporters... along with his bullying of a priest ffs...

lower than a snakes belly that pig..  Angry


you didn't even see the show did you?  Grin Grin Grin Grin

You've no idea what you are on about ...
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Re: Rudd smacked down on Bible verse
Reply #11 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:34pm
 
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you didn't even see the show did you?  Grin Grin Grin Grin

You've no idea what you are on about ...


True Blue doesn't need to have seen it.

Why let anything get in the way of a good outburst?
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Reply #12 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:55pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:06pm:
MOTR wrote on Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:00pm:
You are an absolute twat, Maqqa.

Quote:
    However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you.  You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land.  You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance.  You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.  (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)


Anyone who has spent time reading the bible understands that slavery was accepted as a natural condition.

Your ignorance makes you cannon fodder for the LNP.



Yes - Kevin was right.


http://www.evilbible.com/Slavery.htm

Quote:
Except for murder, slavery has got to be one of the most immoral things a person can do.  Yet slavery is rampant throughout the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments.  The Bible clearly approves of slavery in many passages, and it goes so far as to tell how to obtain slaves, how hard you can beat them, and when you can have sex with the female slaves.



    Many Jews and Christians will try to ignore the moral problems of slavery by saying that these slaves were actually servants or indentured servants.  Many translations of the Bible use the word "servant", "bondservant", or "manservant" instead of "slave" to make the Bible seem less immoral than it really is.  While many slaves may have worked as household servants, that doesn't mean that they were not slaves who were bought, sold, and treated worse than livestock.



    The following passage shows that slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock.



    However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you.  You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land.  You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance.  You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.  (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)



    The following passage describes how the Hebrew slaves are to be treated.



    If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years.  Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom.  If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year.  But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him.  If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master.  But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children.  I would rather not go free.'  If he does this, his master must present him before God.  Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl.  After that, the slave will belong to his master forever.  (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)


Howdy, Bobbie. Ah hope you ain’t stickin up for no bumchums.

Preacher talks about Leviticus. You ever read that?
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Reply #13 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 10:08pm
 
Give the man same space, Karnal. If Paul had of run into you on the road to Damascus, perhaps Jesus would be a historical footnote.
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Reply #14 - Sep 3rd, 2013 at 10:11pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:26pm:
True Blue... wrote on Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:24pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:06pm:
True Blue... wrote on Sep 3rd, 2013 at 9:04pm:
rudd still didn't answer the question...

two face lying bastard...

and of course he came up with something smart to try and belittle that guy.. .what a pig..


bugger off idiot .... anyone who debates marriage equality with the line 'but the bible says' is asking to be belittled.


bullshit you Turd...

it just goes to show that Rudd is so low that he'll use the church to try and get votes because its obvious he doesn't believe in the Bibles word...

Let’s be clear. Even a cursory reading of the Bible would tell you it never says slavery is a “natural condition”. Never. Not once…


yet again... another lie by Rudd defended by the moronic Stooge Labor supporters... along with his bullying of a priest ffs...

lower than a snakes belly that pig..  Angry


you didn't even see the show did you?  Grin Grin Grin Grin

You've no idea what you are on about ...


Nothing new or remotely surprising about that.

He seldom does.
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