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Reply #15 - Aug 25th, 2013 at 9:10am
 
freediver wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 8:23am:
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One solution I've employed to get rid of a neighbour's nuisance cat is to trap it in a cat-trap cage ($60 at your local hardware shop) ~ and take the cat to the vets, telling them it's a stray.

9 times out of 10 the cat owners haven't had it microchipped ... and so it gets collected by the council from the vets - or gets euthanized by the vets. (Didn't cost me a cent).


So you still want the cats dead, you just don't want people doing it in a "hysterical" manner?


I used the term 'hysterical' to describe the gross over-reaction of certain home-owners to finding a cat on their property. The reaction is like the cartoon of a woman standing on a chair with a cute little mouse running around the floor.

Or finding a Wolfman spider in the bedroom. Shrieks of panic and hysteria.

I did not say anything about killing a cat in a hysterical manner.

The vets told me that only the sick ones get put down ~ or those too feral to be given a home. Otherwise they're all taken to the council pound for re-homing, or getting the chop.

Killing cats by throwing bricks at them is not something I approve off. Nor is drowning them.

Shooting them, I can live with ... but then I'll also support any reciprocal action of a violent or fatal kind.

I once worked with a guy who got his friend to come at night to shoot a neighbour's backyard dog that was a 'nuisance' barker.
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Reply #16 - Aug 25th, 2013 at 9:23am
 
I used the term 'hysterical' to describe the gross over-reaction of certain cat-owners to finding a dead cat on their property.
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Reply #17 - Aug 25th, 2013 at 11:44am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 8:49am:
On a list of what can annoy you about your neighbours ~ your cat occasionally straying onto their property would rate around 5 or 6 in the annoyance ratings.

Having to suffer routine and persistent loud and intrusive noise coming across from the neighbours would rate right up there at the top of the list.

etc.

Someone's beautiful little cat quietly tippy-toeing onto a neighbour's property ~ a big deal? Are you kidding me?


Putting it like that - of course it sounds unreasonable to be upset about a neighbour's cat trespassing on your property, but it depends what is important to you.

Lizards, birds and frogs are important to me and local cats love my garden. It's like a giant killing field for them. Acquiring a cat has helped to get rid of other cats. She's a tough territorial little thing, but she's under constant surveillance. She can now sit on a chair next to the pet lorikeet and ignore her even when her tail is getting pecked.

Neighbours generally are a nuisance, but you can leave notes in their mailbox which usually shuts them up - temporarily at least.

The local council will act only if a cat has been caught killing two birds or more, but if I know who the cat belongs to - I'll complain to the owner first - then I'll lodge a complaint with the council. Usually a warning from a ranger is effective enough for the owner to be more vigilant in restraining their cat.
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Reply #18 - Aug 25th, 2013 at 12:30pm
 
mantra wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 11:44am:
Putting it like that - of course it sounds unreasonable to be upset about a neighbour's cat trespassing on your property, but it depends what is important to you.

Lizards, birds and frogs are important to me and local cats love my garden.


I once asked a neighbour who's a gun fanatic if he knew where I could get an airgun from. I even explored the possibility of getting an airgun through the mail from the US.

A stinging ping on the flank of a visitting cat would soon stop it coming over.

My cats have never attacked the Blue-Tongued lizards on my property, and sparrows are 99% what they catch when this rarely happens.

mantra wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 11:44am:
It's like a giant killing field for them. Acquiring a cat has helped to get rid of other cats. She's a tough territorial little thing, but she's under constant surveillance. She can now sit on a chair next to the pet lorikeet and ignore her even when her tail is getting pecked.


That's incredible.

mantra wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 11:44am:
Neighbours generally are a nuisance, but you can leave notes in their mailbox which usually shuts them up - temporarily at least.


If you're a female, they'll leave you alone, but if you're a man ~ you'll soon have some Neanderthal knocking on your door wanting to engage you in fisticuffs on your own front lawn.

Like yourself, I live in a lower socio-economic neighbourhood where eye-contact is not recommended as you go about your business.

Avoiding eye-contact with your neighbours is your first line of defence.

mantra wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 11:44am:
The local council will act only if a cat has been caught killing two birds or more, but if I know who the cat belongs to - I'll complain to the owner first - then I'll lodge a complaint with the council. Usually a warning from a ranger is effective enough for the owner to be more vigilant in restraining their cat.


If I pulled a stunt like dobbing in a neighbour to the council ~ I would thereafter be living in a state of siege from shouted abuse to things being thrown over the fence.

I once had an Italian family living the other side of my back fence.

The 65 year old who was at home all the time used to call out to me for conversation about 3 or 4 times a day ~ no matter what I was doing, and even if I had guests.

Then one day I ignored her and went into the house. And that was the start of a typical Italian vendetta against me.

Stones thrown against my back door. Their dog's poo thrown over the fence. Shouts of "Bastardo!"

All because I simply didn't want to be at the beck and call of this woman who had nothing else to do all day.

... and a brick-to-London the family would have been telling each other that my reluctance to be button-holed several times a day was a case of Anglo 'racism' ... some kind of anti-wogism.


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Reply #19 - Aug 25th, 2013 at 6:34pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 12:30pm:
If you're a female, they'll leave you alone, but if you're a man ~ you'll soon have some Neanderthal knocking on your door wanting to engage you in fisticuffs on your own front lawn.

Like yourself, I live in a lower socio-economic neighbourhood where eye-contact is not recommended as you go about your business.

Avoiding eye-contact with your neighbours is your first line of defence.


Most of the contact with neighbours has been by an anonymous note, although I have approached a few people personally and always hoped no-one would take revenge. Those were the days when I had a couple of large, aggressive dogs - so I felt safe. I wouldn't do it today.

I did have some psycho come to my front porch once and throw a few plant pots at the house. That was a bit worrying.

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 12:30pm:
I once asked a neighbour who's a gun fanatic if he knew where I could get an airgun from. I even explored the possibility of getting an airgun through the mail from the US.

A stinging ping on the flank of a visitting cat would soon stop it coming over.


What if you accidentally hit it in the eye? Those BB guns used to be sold over the counter when I was a child. My brother had one he used for shooting water rats when he was only about 8. The laws were slack then and nobody cared whether a kid lost an eye or got shot in the ear by one of those things.

I doubt you could import one, but you could possibly buy one on the black market if your neighbour has some contacts for illegal weapons.
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Reply #20 - Aug 25th, 2013 at 7:10pm
 
mantra wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 6:34pm:
Most of the contact with neighbours has been by an anonymous note,


My brother once left a polite note on someone's door about their dog barking incessantly all night long, and sure enough this fellow and a friend knocked on every door in the neighbourhood streets.

My brother immediately said it was him who left the note, and the issue was the barking dog and not initiating a vendetta.

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It's stopped in the last 6 months in the next street from me, but there used to be several residential properties that had big dogs with big deep voices barking almost non-stop at night for hours.

Thank God they were a little too far from me to be a nuisance, but I used to wonder how the hell the neighbours over there could put up with this racket for about 6 or 7 years that it went on.

I genuinely believe that Australians have thick skins and semi-anaesthetised nerves that makes them a lot more immune to being annoyed or disturbed by the sort of racket that upsets people from north and western Europe.

The insensitivity is something I've noticed since arriving here.

The nerve synapses don't fire so readily as they do with people from the temperate climates, and this makes Australians surprised that you're feeling a bit pissed off with some persistent racket like a barking dog or a sound system playing at full blast.

It's why we're called 'whingeing Poms' because our sensitivities haven't yet had time to adjust to Australian conditions and become dulled into a semi-comatose stupor from the summer heat, the bad beer, and the mindless idiocy of 'Footy'.  Cool

mantra wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 6:34pm:
Those were the days when I had a couple of large, aggressive dogs - so I felt safe. I wouldn't do it today.


Perhaps it's time you got a large and aggressive husband (or Toy Boy?)

mantra wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 6:34pm:
What if you accidentally hit it in the eye?


I don't drink and I don't suffer from Parkinson's, so the only chance of me shooting it in the eye would be if someone knudged my elbow and said ... "Go on, then!" ... just as I pulled the trigger.

mantra wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 6:34pm:
... but you could possibly buy one on the black market if your neighbour has some contacts for illegal weapons.


Oh hell no. He's incorruptible. He does everything about guns to the letter of the book. No cut corners. I could hit him, and he wouldn't punch me back because that alone would lose him his fire arm licence.
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Reply #21 - Aug 25th, 2013 at 10:45pm
 
Herbert .. you need one of these .... stop annoying your neighbours

http://www.catsafe.com.au/
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Reply #22 - Aug 26th, 2013 at 8:21am
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 25th, 2013 at 10:45pm:
Herbert .. you need one of these .... stop annoying your neighbours

http://www.catsafe.com.au/


Oh God ... not you too. At my cat forum website I've been hounded (is that the right word?) by mobs of North Shore cashed-up doctors' wives that I should buy a whole complex of modular cage-tunnels for my cats in the backyard.

Not .... a ..... chance. No way.

That's just way too precious.

If I was a breeder of $1000 exotic pussy-cats to supplement my meager Age Pension I might consider it worthwhile to protect my little furry investments, but ... all I have are lower socio-economic moggy bogans with no pretensions and appalling table-manners.

In fact, for the first time ever Gizmo gave my face a spray about 3 in the morning last night. True story. I'm going to have to close the bedroom door in future.   

Love comes in many forms, but being woken at 3 in the morning by a stream of hot piss from a cat that's lady gaga about me is not an option.

I'm seriously thinking of pissing on Gizmo in the backyard to see how he reacts. It might teach him a lesson. First I'll stick him in the wire cat-trap cage so he can't make a bolt for it ...
(evil chuckling issues from deep in my throat)

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Reply #23 - Aug 26th, 2013 at 8:31am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 26th, 2013 at 8:21am:
In fact, for the first time ever Gizmo gave my face a spray about 3 in the morning last night. True story. I'm going to have to close the bedroom door in future.   Love comes in many forms


you can seek help for that you know .....
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Reply #24 - Aug 26th, 2013 at 8:51am
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 26th, 2013 at 8:31am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 26th, 2013 at 8:21am:
In fact, for the first time ever Gizmo gave my face a spray about 3 in the morning last night. True story. I'm going to have to close the bedroom door in future.   Love comes in many forms


you can seek help for that you know .....


What? Give Gizmo the chop? I can't do that. When I got Gizmo he fit weightlessly in the palm of my hand like a little ball of fluff.

Our destinies are linked forever.

True Love.

4 eva

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