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Re: Will Abort slap a gst on all online sales ?
Reply #15 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 2:29pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 2:09pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 2:07pm:
cods wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 1:12pm:
THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD...


THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD...








but a very effective one.  And the reason why you wont believ that Abbott is not planning GST changes is in large measure that Gillard lied and broke her promise sao quickly and so unapologetically that you imagine everyone else is like her.  Fortunately, they are not.




You are NO FOOL - I'll give you that - as to be unaware that ...

The Rudd ETS model contained a one year, fixed price run in


The Howard ETS model contained a one year, fixed price run in


The Gillard ETS model contained a one year, fixed price run in
- but in a democratic process, was extended to three years by Bandt, Windsor and Oakeshott, in a deal essential to "putting a price on carbon" - a policy taken by Gillard to the 2010 Federal Election



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Reply #16 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 2:34pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 2:09pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 2:07pm:
cods wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 1:12pm:
THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD...


THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD...






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but a very effective one.  And the reason why you wont believ that Abbott is not planning GST changes is in large measure that Gillard lied and broke her promise sao quickly and so unapologetically that you imagine everyone else is like her.  Fortunately, they are not.




poor old buzz he hasnt got much to come back with has he...LOL>. after disappearing.. all he had was his Baillieu thread and when he left.. bingo.. nothing...

I dont think we need to ask.. who is his HERO do you?...

at least I can see some faults with the libs.. but bloody hell this lot wont admit anything..after seeing the excuses for kevs cheating I think I have read everything now..

and the fact that kev wont have a peoples debate as Abbott would like makes me even more certain he cheated he knew what the questions were  he doesnt like surprise questions..

well thats what I think anyway... but we know buzz will adore him and has probably already sent in his $10. Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #17 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 3:43pm
 
cods wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 1:12pm:
Dnarever wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 12:29pm:
Abbott has completely ruled out any changes to the GST, we all heard him the other night right ?????

If Abbott introduces a GST on online transactions it makes his statement the other night a lie.




get the fact straight dna.. he said THEY HAVE NO PLANS TO CHANGE THE GST>>..

that doesnt smack of ruling it out COMPLETELY and you know it...

why its almost a
THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD...




Hey I come out on your side saying that Abbott said no changes to the GST and out of habit you say I'm wrong he will change the GST?????

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Reply #18 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 4:01pm
 
cods wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 2:34pm:
poor old buzz he hasnt got much to come back with has he...LOL>. after disappearing .... bingo .. nothing...





Cods, singing the latest Longweekend58 "chorus"


( ... poor woman - can't even compose her OWN lies)






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Reply #19 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 4:12pm
 
GST should be increased.

Direct taxation should be reduced.


I make no qualms about supporting this as tax streamlining - GST is infinitely more difficult to avoid and applies across everyone.
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Reply #20 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 5:11pm
 
Only business collect GST. How many sellers on ebay and so on that are not a registered business? I see cans of worms opening here.
May cash be king again!!!!!!!
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Reply #21 - Aug 13th, 2013 at 5:33pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 2:29pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 2:09pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 2:07pm:
cods wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 1:12pm:
THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD...


THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD...








but a very effective one.  And the reason why you wont believ that Abbott is not planning GST changes is in large measure that Gillard lied and broke her promise sao quickly and so unapologetically that you imagine everyone else is like her.  Fortunately, they are not.




You are NO FOOL - I'll give you that - as to be unaware that ...

The Rudd ETS model contained a one year, fixed price run in


The Howard ETS model contained a one year, fixed price run in


The Gillard ETS model contained a one year, fixed price run in
- but in a democratic process, was extended to three years by Bandt, Windsor and Oakeshott, in a deal essential to "putting a price on carbon" - a policy taken by Gillard to the 2010 Federal Election





yeah you just keep telling yourself that.  the fact remains that the CT was a promise NOT to be implemented and was broken within days of the election.  it killed Gillard's PMship[ and has sent Labor to the pit of unelectability - as deserved.
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Reply #22 - Aug 14th, 2013 at 12:27pm
 
De-registered User wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 5:11pm:
Only business collect GST. How many sellers on ebay and so on that are not a registered business? I see cans of worms opening here.
May cash be king again!!!!!!!





A vendor is ONLY required to register for, pay and collect GST on a turnover of over $75,000 per annum



beware ...



eBay latest target in ATO blitz

Friday, 4 March 2011

The Australian Taxation Office is taking advantage of its new IT systems to detect rorts in the cash economy, with eBay sellers identified as a target.

The ATO now has access to forms of advanced data-matching through its new IT systems, worth more than $756 million.

The system enables the ATO to match reported income against records collected by banks, Centrelink and other organisations. Last year, the ATO checked 500 million records gathered from third parties like eBay.

The renewed attack on the cash economy aims to recover millions of dollars in unreported liabilities. In 2010, the ATO recovered more than $214 million.

http://www.startupsmart.com.au/financing-a-business/tax/ebay-latest-target-in-at...



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Reply #23 - Aug 14th, 2013 at 12:29pm
 
GST SHOULD BE INCREASED.

Direct Tax should be reduced.

I am - and remain - a firm believer in that.
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Reply #24 - Aug 20th, 2013 at 9:57am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 13th, 2013 at 1:04pm:
I think there
SHOULD be

NEEDS to be

Eventually,
MUST be


With the year by year shift in sales ratio, in the ON-LINE favour - on-line sales will EVENTUALLY play HAVOC with GST receipts - though how this would be DONE is the big problem

Here's MY solution

Put a 12.5% GST ( ... come on, it's affordable) on all off-shore purchases - and pay the, say, American vendor the 2.5% extra as a commission for collection
Non-compliance ( ... though why they would ?) would result in a ban under tax law from trading with an Australian customer base


PLUS - it would give a BOOST - albeit small - to Australian businesses and employment








Web sales worth $6.2b escape GST

August 20, 2013

Australian consumers have avoided the GST on goods valued at $6.2 billion shipped here through the mail last year, a gain of 16 per cent.

That is likely to further stoke the anger of local retailers who are demanding the government allows them to compete on a level playing field. The amount involved is just over 2 per cent of all retail sales.

Figures released by the Australian Bureau of Statistics on Monday estimated for the first time the value of goods bought by local shoppers from overseas online stores, where any deal under the value of $1000 is not charged GST

The ABS has admitted in a new briefing paper that a large number of parcels imported under the low value threshold (LVT) of $1000 were flooding into Australia and not at present included in the macro-economic accounts.

''The ABS estimates the value of goods imported under the LVT which are not currently included in the macro-economic accounts was $5.375 billion for 2010-11 and $6.226 billion for 2011-12.''


This represents a 15.8 per cent growth in the value of packages valued below $1000 coming into the country.

If GST was successfully charged on the more than $6 billion of goods it could raise as much as $600 million for empty government coffers.


It comes at a time when the federal budget is under increasing strain because of a revenue shortfall.

The ABS figures will fuel the anger of retailers struggling in the midst of a protracted downturn in consumer spending while trying to compete with overseas sites that don't charge GST.

They have been fuming over the GST-free threshold for years and have run a heated campaign demanding the government lower the threshold or end it.

In 2011, retailers' hopes the threshold would be lowered or scrapped were dashed when the Productivity Commission's final report on the state of the retail sector stopped short of recommending the government drop the $1000 GST-free threshold on goods bought from overseas websites by Australian shoppers.

It came down to cost. The report found lowering the threshold to $20 would raise more than $550 million in tax revenue but the cost of processing under the present system would escalate to more than $2 billion, more than three times the additional revenue.

The ABS has estimated Australian consumers bought $4.5 billion of goods online from domestic retailers in 2011-12 as well as $6.226 billion from overseas sites. The figures do not include money spent on overseas holidays or goods bought from overseas and delivered online, such as music, movies, ebooks and mobile apps


http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/web-sales-worth-62b...



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Reply #25 - Aug 20th, 2013 at 10:03am
 
There already is a GST on online purchases if bought from an aussie based retailer, or if they are over $1000 if bought from overseas.

The gov has already said that the cost to recoup the GST would far outweigh the revenue collected????


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Reply #26 - Aug 20th, 2013 at 10:04am
 
Good post Buzz,
let's hope they don't put a GST on goods below $1,000.

I bought some memory RAM for an old laptop which was not available in Australia.

What a great thrill to have a laptop all working properly for such little cost.  Smiley
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Reply #27 - Aug 20th, 2013 at 10:06am
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 10:04am:
Good post,
let's hope they don't put a GST on goods below $1,000.

I bought some memory RAM for an old laptop which was not available in Australia.

What a great thrill to have a laptop all working properly for such little cost.  Smiley




you have to ask.. what do other countries do??.. they all have their own form of GST I cant believe no one collects it for online.
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Reply #28 - Aug 20th, 2013 at 11:00am
 
cods wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 10:06am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 10:04am:
Good post,
let's hope they don't put a GST on goods below $1,000.

I bought some memory RAM for an old laptop which was not available in Australia.

What a great thrill to have a laptop all working properly for such little cost.  Smiley




you have to ask.. what do other countries do??.. they all have their own form of GST I cant believe no one collects it for online.


The UK limit for VAT is only $20 I think so they collect it on virtually everything.  but nobody makes any money on it because it costs more to collect it than the money collected.
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Reply #29 - Aug 20th, 2013 at 11:24am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 11:00am:
cods wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 10:06am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 20th, 2013 at 10:04am:
Good post,
let's hope they don't put a GST on goods below $1,000.

I bought some memory RAM for an old laptop which was not available in Australia.

What a great thrill to have a laptop all working properly for such little cost.  Smiley







you have to ask.. what do other countries do??.. they all have their own form of GST I cant believe no one collects it for online.


The UK limit for VAT is only $20 I think so they collect it on virtually everything.  but nobody makes any money on it because it costs more to collect it than the money collected.




so it doesnt make sense...woujld you do something in your home or buisiness that cost you more than you bring in?? I doubt it.. yet we let govts get away with this.. why not double the GST or VAT in that case??...after all they are imported goods in the end are they not?

I watched the fruit farmers on TV last night horrific what we are doing here now.. these people are being thrown to the wolves..since when do we allow a cannery to bring in fruit from overseas and can it here and watch our farmers burn their trees...this will backfire on us down the track you watch...

have you ever bought fruit from the USA cherries and grapes they cost a fortune  and thats what we will be stuck with when all our farmers have been killed off...looks like they will be better off growing animal fodder...its a disgrace what happening here year in year out..... and then we read how much bloody CEOs are getting... Angry Angry
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