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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30601 Gender:	Will Abort slap a gst on all online sales ? Aug 13^th, 2013 at 11:51am Haven't heard much about this lately. If there are any reporters or journalists reading this then perhaps they could ask Abort about this. I know his libbo mates Gerry Harvey and co are hanging out for it
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 113010 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Will Abort slap a gst on all online sales ? Reply #1 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 11:56am Nail - this is a forbidden topic - just like negative gearing.
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Will Abort slap a gst on all online sales ? Reply #2 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:08pm okay suppositories... you've heard the report on this before. GST on online sales will cost MORE to collect than the tax collected. That alone is a killer blow. But since online sales are all way above 10% cheaper, it doesn't change the purchasers motivations one iota. Try some thinking next time.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 60306 Here Gender:	Re: Will Abort slap a gst on all online sales ? Reply #3 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:29pm Abbott has completely ruled out any changes to the GST, we all heard him the other night right ????? If Abbott introduces a GST on online transactions it makes his statement the other night a lie.
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Reply #4 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:34pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:08pm:

okay suppositories... you've heard the report on this before. GST on online sales will cost MORE to collect than the tax collected. That alone is a killer blow. But since online sales are all way above 10% cheaper, it doesn't change the purchasers motivations one iota.

Try some thinking next time.

Abort needs to rule it out period. Not talking about it is no answer.

It's like his answer to the question of gst increases by saying that it needs the support of all state governments. That's not the question.

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Reply #5 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:36pm

Dnarever wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:29pm:

Abbott has completely ruled out any changes to the GST, we all heard him the other night right ?????

If Abbott introduces a GST on online transactions it makes his statement the other night a lie.

He didn't actually say that he would rule it out. He said that gst increases are determined by the agreement of all state governments. You need to read between the lines when it comes to pollies answers because they all go to lying school.

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Reply #6 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 1:04pm

I think there SHOULD be

NEEDS to be

Eventually, MUST be

With the year by year shift in sales ratio, in the ON-LINE favour - on-line sales will EVENTUALLY play HAVOC with GST receipts - though how this would be DONE is the big problem

Here's MY solution

Put a 12.5% GST ( ... come on, it's affordable) on all off-shore purchases - and pay the, say, American vendor the 2.5% extra as a commission for collection
Non-compliance ( ... though why they would ?) would result in a ban under tax law from trading with an Australian customer base

PLUS - it would give a BOOST - albeit small - to Australian businesses and employment

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Reply #7 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 1:09pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:36pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:29pm:

Abbott has completely ruled out any changes to the GST, we all heard him the other night right ?????

If Abbott introduces a GST on online transactions it makes his statement the other night a lie.

He didn't actually say that he would rule it out. He said that gst increases are determined by the agreement of all state governments. You need to read between the lines when it comes to pollies answers because they all go to lying school.

thats true... "we have no plans to change the GST"..could mean anything.. however a change to on line GST according to those who buy just about everything on line.. it wouldnt make all that much difference anyway..to the cost.. someone did say the work involved wouldnt be worth them doing it.. but I wouldnmt know about that..

I doubt they would need the States to agree to online GST....

I have always thought it unfair but maybe thats because I dont buy on line.. Shocked

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Reply #8 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 1:12pm

Dnarever wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:29pm:

Abbott has completely ruled out any changes to the GST, we all heard him the other night right ?????

If Abbott introduces a GST on online transactions it makes his statement the other night a lie.

get the fact straight dna.. he said THEY HAVE NO PLANS TO CHANGE THE GST>>..

that doesnt smack of ruling it out COMPLETELY and you know it...

why its almost a

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD...

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Will Abort slap a gst on all online sales ? Reply #9 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 1:12pm Abbott has already ruled out changes to the GST. You cant just keep on pretending otherwise with nonsense like this.
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Reply #10 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 1:25pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 1:12pm:

Abbott has already ruled out changes to the GST. You cant just keep on pretending otherwise with nonsense like this.

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 12:27pm:

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Tony Abbott
ALSO pledged there would be "no new taxes under a government I lead"
- and within weeks announced plans for a

GREAT BIG NEW TAX

( ... hitting FAR more businesses than carbon permits) to pay for his $3000 a week parental leave for the rich scheme

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Reply #11 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 1:55pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 1:12pm:

Abbott has already ruled out changes to the GST. You cant just keep on pretending otherwise with nonsense like this.

It's a pretty simple concept. By way of analogy......if I don't intend to travel to Adelaide, I have no need to look at a map as to how to get there, yes? If I am not actually considering sending a satellite to Neptune, I need not spend money on a commission finding out how much such an exercise might cost, yes.

I don't care if Abbott examines the taxation system, but, as he has zero intention of fiddling with the GST, he needs to exclude the GST from the examination to make it relevant.

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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14245 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: Will Abort slap a gst on all online sales ? Reply #12 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 2:07pm cods wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 1:12pm: THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD... THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD...
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Reply #13 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 2:09pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 2:07pm:

cods wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 1:12pm:

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD...

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but a very effective one. And the reason why you wont believ that Abbott is not planning GST changes is in large measure that Gillard lied and broke her promise sao quickly and so unapologetically that you imagine everyone else is like her. Fortunately, they are not.

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Reply #14 - Aug 13^th, 2013 at 2:27pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 2:07pm:

cods wrote on Aug 13^th, 2013 at 1:12pm:

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD...

http://crappypictures.com/images/2012/08/broken-record2.gif

DONT THINK WE WILL FORGET!!!!!.......

YOU MAY BUT WE WILL ENJOY REMINDING YOU......

WE LURRRRRRRRRRRVE BROKEN RECORDS....

THE RECORDS WE DONT LIKE...

ARE BIGGEST DEBT IN AUSTRALIAS HISTORY... Cry

SHAME LABOR SHAME. Wink

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