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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: Islamophobes retarded? Reply #180 - Oct 10^th, 2013 at 3:21pm You shouldn't talk about your fellow racists, bigots and Islamophobes like that old man!
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Reply #181 - Oct 10^th, 2013 at 3:22pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 7:45am:

freediver wrote on Oct 7^th, 2013 at 10:19pm:

Being subjective, terms like spineless and retarded are not only inherently worthless, but also completely lacking in meaning. Thus you can apply whatever meaning you want to them.

Thats a very spineless statement FD.

I doubt you'd find one Muslim who'd agree with this.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islamophobes retarded? Reply #182 - Oct 10^th, 2013 at 3:36pm Karnal wrote on Oct 10^th, 2013 at 3:22pm: I doubt you'd find one Muslim who'd agree with this. Quite right K. After all 'spineless' is a hard and fast universal term. Just like belief in freedom has nothing to do with personal morality, innit?
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Reply #183 - Oct 11^th, 2013 at 9:22am

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 10^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 10^th, 2013 at 3:22pm:

I doubt you'd find one Muslim who'd agree with this.

Quite right K. After all 'spineless' is a hard and fast universal term. Just like belief in freedom has nothing to do with personal morality, innit? Cheesy

Depends what FD thinks. He's the expert on all this.

FD's subject of choice is who we should criticize.

I believe the Muselmen feature prominently on his list.

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Reply #184 - Oct 11^th, 2013 at 10:11am

Karnal wrote on Oct 11^th, 2013 at 9:22am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 10^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 10^th, 2013 at 3:22pm:

I doubt you'd find one Muslim who'd agree with this.

Quite right K. After all 'spineless' is a hard and fast universal term. Just like belief in freedom has nothing to do with personal morality, innit? Cheesy

Depends what FD thinks. He's the expert on all this.

FD's subject of choice is who we should criticize.

I believe the Muselmen feature prominently on his list.

'Criticize' ~ or 'warn against' for the future societal health of his generational homeland?

It's irresponsible and plainly stupid to pretend that an already-identified problem of incompatible cultural values and an endemically hostile immigrant religious community should be left ignored and unexamined in the interest of political correctness and appeasement.

The motivation for FD's consuming interest is the same as mine: Why is no one in a position of leadership and power doing anything to address the self-defeating absurdity of helping to populate our homeland suburbs with yet more migrants of the Muslim faith who we already know from worldwide news reports are a social liability in terms of crime and unemployment, and who largely view us as 'Unworthies' for rejecting Allah.

The only reason I persist on the theme of Muslim immigration and Islam is because not one single politician in a leadership role is acknowledging the stupidity of continuing to bring this medieval and toxic mindset into the Australian homeland.

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Reply #185 - Oct 11^th, 2013 at 10:11am

Karnal wrote on Oct 11^th, 2013 at 9:22am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 10^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 10^th, 2013 at 3:22pm:

I doubt you'd find one Muslim who'd agree with this.

Quite right K. After all 'spineless' is a hard and fast universal term. Just like belief in freedom has nothing to do with personal morality, innit? Cheesy

Depends what FD thinks. He's the expert on all this.

FD's subject of choice is who we should criticize.

I believe the Muselmen feature prominently on his list.

And Brian! Anyone else who stands up to his bully-boy tactics! Anyone who thinks people should have a fair go! The list goes on and on... Cheesy

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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
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Reply #186 - Oct 11^th, 2013 at 1:10pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 11^th, 2013 at 10:11am:

Karnal wrote on Oct 11^th, 2013 at 9:22am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 10^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 10^th, 2013 at 3:22pm:

I doubt you'd find one Muslim who'd agree with this.

Quite right K. After all 'spineless' is a hard and fast universal term. Just like belief in freedom has nothing to do with personal morality, innit? Cheesy

Depends what FD thinks. He's the expert on all this.

FD's subject of choice is who we should criticize.

I believe the Muselmen feature prominently on his list.

'Criticize' ~ or 'warn against' for the future societal health of his generational homeland?

I'm not sure, Herbie. I don't know where FD's generational homeland is.

No, I think you just have to criticize. FD leaves all the warning up to Y.

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Reply #187 - Oct 14^th, 2013 at 5:08pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 8^th, 2013 at 7:42am:

Soren wrote on Oct 7^th, 2013 at 10:13pm:

Take a wild guess. I am not speaking classical Arabic - so you are allowed to think and interpret for yourself. Can you manage without an Islamic scholar guiding you?

Well S, it might be a little difficult for me since I am one of the retarded ones in your book. Surely, by definition, a "retarded" person is incapable of thinking and interpreting for themselves no? So I'm not sure how you expect me to answer that.

I just find this discussion interesting, because I'm curious to what sort of retardation afflicts me.

I don't think you actually believe in the literal truth of the Koran, nor in the perfect example of Mohammed s a guide to life in all places and times -see your contribution to the child bride discussion where you said that it is unacceptable to marry off girls who are regarded as children in our society. (Unless there was some undisclosed fingers-crossed element in the way you formulated that stance, somehow not meaning to apply to Muslims.)

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50230 At my desk.	Re: Islamophobes retarded? Reply #188 - Oct 17^th, 2013 at 6:22pm He considers it morally acceptable when the child brides are properly trained.
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Reply #189 - May 1^st, 2014 at 8:41am

Twenty-five years after Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini issued a fatwa against Salman Rushdie for writing The Satanic Verses

, Vanity Fair writer Paul Elie hears from Rushdie himself and authors including Stephen King, Ian McEwan, E. L. Doctorow, Gay Talese, and Martin Amis, as well as editors from Viking and Penguin, the book’s respective U.K. and American publishers, about how the prophetic and provocative book made its author a hunted man and unleashed a fury around the world. Bombs exploded in bookshops in the U.S. and the U.K.; the book’s Japanese translator was shot and killed, its Italian translator was stabbed, its Turkish translator was attacked, its Norwegian publisher was shot, and two clerics in Saudi Arabia and Tunisia who spoke out against the fatwa were shot and killed. In total, Elie writes, more than 60 people died in the controversy.

Stephen King went so far as to intervene on Rushdie’s behalf when a number of bookstores in the U.S. announced plans not to sell the book or to remove it from their shelves. At the behest of two Viking editors, King called the chief of bookstore chain B. Dalton and gave him an ultimatum: “You don’t sell The Satanic Verses, you don’t sell Stephen King.” The store reversed course. “You can’t let intimidation stop books,” King now says, recalling the episode. “It’s as basic as that. Books are life itself.”

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2014/04/salman-rushdie-fatwa-satanic-vers...

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Reply #190 - May 1^st, 2014 at 9:26am

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“It’s as basic as that. Books are life itself.”

Books and written words convey ideas and concepts, things which will outlive and out last this physical universe.

Psalms 23:1
The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #191 - May 1^st, 2014 at 12:29pm

Yadda wrote on May 1^st, 2014 at 9:26am:

Quote:

“It’s as basic as that. Books are life itself.”

Books and written words convey ideas and concepts, things which will outlive and out last this physical universe.

Psalms 23:1
The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

what have you done righteous?

Peter waldo your fellow chrstian said there is no pleasure or materials in paradise, so now God has a house which you will enter?

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Reply #192 - May 1^st, 2014 at 2:46pm

wally1 wrote on May 1^st, 2014 at 12:29pm:

Yadda wrote on May 1^st, 2014 at 9:26am:

Quote:

“It’s as basic as that. Books are life itself.”

Books and written words convey ideas and concepts, things which will outlive and out last this physical universe.

Psalms 23:1
The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

what have you done righteous?

Er... stood up against fatwahs and intimidation?
Will that count, opposing tyranny?

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Reply #193 - May 1^st, 2014 at 2:54pm

Soren wrote on May 1^st, 2014 at 2:46pm:

wally1 wrote on May 1^st, 2014 at 12:29pm:

what have you done righteous?

Er... stood up against fatwahs and intimidation?
Will that count, opposing tyranny?

Ah.

Soren wrote on Apr 30^th, 2014 at 8:05pm:

Give the bastards the chance to act civilised (our influence) but they stick with their Suhartos, Sukarnos, Nehrus, Ghandis, Marcoses and Mugabes and assorted other tribal, backward, primitive bastards.

And of course it IS the white man's burden when they do so. If you were to compel them to act right, they would denounce you as white colonialist beasts who takes away their precious innate tribal blood lust and hatred of each other (the stuff that has given their existence its miserable meaning for millennia). If you do NOT compel them, they will denounce you as white colonial corrupters and endorsers of their innate tribal blood lust and hatred of each other.

White man's burden = there is no cure for the resentment backward peoples because they realise, without words, that their only option is the white man's way. This means abandoning their very culture and who wants to do that? But there is no room for people with bones through their noses or sclerotic 7th century ideas in the heads, is there?
The world, like the caravan, has moved on.

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Reply #194 - May 1^st, 2014 at 3:17pm

Soren wrote on May 1^st, 2014 at 2:46pm:

wally1 wrote on May 1^st, 2014 at 12:29pm:

Yadda wrote on May 1^st, 2014 at 9:26am:

Quote:

“It’s as basic as that. Books are life itself.”

Books and written words convey ideas and concepts, things which will outlive and out last this physical universe.

Psalms 23:1
The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

what have you done righteous?

Er... stood up against fatwahs and intimidation?
Will that count, opposing tyranny?

He can't oppose tyrancy when he is a tyrant.

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