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Reply #150 - Jul 29^th, 2013 at 5:52pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 8:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 7:51pm:

There were people on here happy that Thomson would get away with it and stay in parliament just to stop Tony Abbott winning a no confidence vote.

There seems some very light morality these days.

The only reason that Thomson was perused so relentlessly was for that same vote. Williamson was not perused with the same vigour and neither was Jackson etc. Whether Thomson is guilty or not the exercise has been a political witch hunt from the beginning.

Had he been out in the community there would have been no real fuss at all, that is a fact while it may reflect poorly on the community it is still true.

just to stop Tony Abbott

Very important for Australia to stop the TAbbott danger.

yeah... bugger that whole democracy thing!

What has the liberals doing anything they can to circumvent Democracy got to do with it ?

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #151 - Jul 29^th, 2013 at 5:55pm

cods wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 5:50pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 8:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 7:51pm:

There were people on here happy that Thomson would get away with it and stay in parliament just to stop Tony Abbott winning a no confidence vote.

There seems some very light morality these days.

The only reason that Thomson was perused so relentlessly was for that same vote. Williamson was not perused with the same vigour and neither was Jackson etc. Whether Thomson is guilty or not the exercise has been a political witch hunt from the beginning.

Had he been out in the community there would have been no real fuss at all, that is a fact while it may reflect poorly on the community it is still true.

just to stop Tony Abbott

Very important for Australia to stop the TAbbott danger.

yeah... bugger that whole democracy thing!

I was just thinking longy if the libs were in govt and mid stream they changed the leader so everyone had a new PM who was busy running round changing things and doing god only knows what in haste>??? without any mandate whatever..

do you think our friends from the left would be screaming by now for an election?

or would that not be democracy labor style

You don't remember when Howard promised to hand over to Costello mid term? Think it would have been a sensible change? They should have done it and no problem from me at all.

I would have liked to see how he would have been in the top job.

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #152 - Jul 29^th, 2013 at 7:35pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 1:04pm:

cods wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:01am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 8:03pm:

The only reason that Thomson was perused so relentlessly was for that same vote. Williamson was not perused with the same vigour and neither was Jackson etc. Whether Thomson is guilty or not the exercise has been a political witch hunt from the beginning.

Had he been out in the community there would have been no real fuss at all, that is a fact while it may reflect poorly on the community it is still true.

just to stop Tony Abbott

I dispute that dna..

THOMO put himself out there to be voted in as an MP....

Williamson and Jackson did not..

dont you think we have every right to believe anyone that is an MP.. is at the least HONEST and above BEING DRAGGED THROUGH THE COURTS FOR STEALING.

you seem to believe that being a member of parliament should give him or anyone I guess special treatment..

I dont happen to believe that in fact I expect Better if not MORE from our members and I dont care which side they are on..

maybe its time you started expecting more instead of always finding and excuse for their behavior...

if he had been in the private sector... even a copper he would have been suspended from day one....

sorry if its a crime to expect more from our parliamentarians..

and there you have it Cods, albeit by accident, but you've finally gotten something right. Despite the fact that, from the looks of it, Thommo, Williamson And Jackson have all appeared to have been drinking from the same trough, the only one you care about is Thommo.

Does the fact that Jackson and Williamson appear to have been guilty of the same thing not matter? Why? Is it because they can't help abbot win government.

there is a HIGHER standard for MPs. I don't know why you don't know that.

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #153 - Jul 29^th, 2013 at 7:36pm

Verge wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 2:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 1:21pm:

It's against corp policy.

I have been in there with a guy who sits on the SLT - and we're one of the 10 biggest companies in the world. That's pretty pecking order.

My brother was at a function last week attended by some big powerbrokers in the labor party. That doesnt make him the PM now does it?

that makes him guilty by association of a number of things then!

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #154 - Jul 29^th, 2013 at 7:39pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 5:52pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 8:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 7:51pm:

There were people on here happy that Thomson would get away with it and stay in parliament just to stop Tony Abbott winning a no confidence vote.

There seems some very light morality these days.

The only reason that Thomson was perused so relentlessly was for that same vote. Williamson was not perused with the same vigour and neither was Jackson etc. Whether Thomson is guilty or not the exercise has been a political witch hunt from the beginning.

Had he been out in the community there would have been no real fuss at all, that is a fact while it may reflect poorly on the community it is still true.

just to stop Tony Abbott

Very important for Australia to stop the TAbbott danger.

yeah... bugger that whole democracy thing!

What has the liberals doing anything they can to circumvent Democracy got to do with it ?

you do know that politics is an ADVERSARIAL contest, right??? bringing down the government is quite fair since the constitution provides the capability to do so. Do you think for a moment that if The indies had sided with abbott that Gillard would hesitate to attempt to bring him down?? of course not. actually, that is the job of the opposition leader.

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #155 - Jul 29^th, 2013 at 7:41pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 5:55pm:

cods wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 5:50pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 8:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 7:51pm:

There were people on here happy that Thomson would get away with it and stay in parliament just to stop Tony Abbott winning a no confidence vote.

There seems some very light morality these days.

The only reason that Thomson was perused so relentlessly was for that same vote. Williamson was not perused with the same vigour and neither was Jackson etc. Whether Thomson is guilty or not the exercise has been a political witch hunt from the beginning.

Had he been out in the community there would have been no real fuss at all, that is a fact while it may reflect poorly on the community it is still true.

just to stop Tony Abbott

Very important for Australia to stop the TAbbott danger.

yeah... bugger that whole democracy thing!

I was just thinking longy if the libs were in govt and mid stream they changed the leader so everyone had a new PM who was busy running round changing things and doing god only knows what in haste>??? without any mandate whatever..

do you think our friends from the left would be screaming by now for an election?

or would that not be democracy labor style

You don't remember when Howard promised to hand over the Costello mid term? Think it would have been a sensible change? They should have done it and no problem from me at all.

I would have liked to see how he would have been in the top job.

I liked Costello too but howard's position was that if he was unwilling to fight for the job then he didn't have what it took to survive in it. and given that as soon as the Libs lost govt he turned around a quit pretty much proves the assertion. The job of leader was his on a plate and he knocked it back. good chance he would be PM now instead of Rudd and looking for his second term.

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #156 - Jul 29^th, 2013 at 8:26pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 7:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 1:04pm:

cods wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:01am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 8:03pm:

The only reason that Thomson was perused so relentlessly was for that same vote. Williamson was not perused with the same vigour and neither was Jackson etc. Whether Thomson is guilty or not the exercise has been a political witch hunt from the beginning.

Had he been out in the community there would have been no real fuss at all, that is a fact while it may reflect poorly on the community it is still true.

just to stop Tony Abbott

I dispute that dna..

THOMO put himself out there to be voted in as an MP....

Williamson and Jackson did not..

dont you think we have every right to believe anyone that is an MP.. is at the least HONEST and above BEING DRAGGED THROUGH THE COURTS FOR STEALING.

you seem to believe that being a member of parliament should give him or anyone I guess special treatment..

I dont happen to believe that in fact I expect Better if not MORE from our members and I dont care which side they are on..

maybe its time you started expecting more instead of always finding and excuse for their behavior...

if he had been in the private sector... even a copper he would have been suspended from day one....

sorry if its a crime to expect more from our parliamentarians..

and there you have it Cods, albeit by accident, but you've finally gotten something right. Despite the fact that, from the looks of it, Thommo, Williamson And Jackson have all appeared to have been drinking from the same trough, the only one you care about is Thommo.

Does the fact that Jackson and Williamson appear to have been guilty of the same thing not matter? Why? Is it because they can't help abbot win government.

there is a HIGHER standard for MPs. I don't know why you don't know that.

what a pathetic excuse ...what sort of higher standard do you set for Abbott? not just an MP, but the leader of the liberals and the man most likely to be our next PM ..... do you hold his abusing the system and taxpayers of $9000 to a higher standard? Don't you think he should be held to the highest standard, second only to the PM?

besides, Thommo wasn't a MP at the time of the alleged incidents. Admit it dopey, if Abbott was in govt. it would have barely got a mention

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #157 - Jul 29^th, 2013 at 8:27pm

The job of an opposition is to hold the govermemt to account, represent their constituents and to provide a viable alternative.

It is not to dismantle a sitting government with sleaze and innuendo, nor miss represent the true position of the economy.

How many times did they attempt to suspend standing orders?

Abbots junk yard dog routine has gone on long enough and has done nothing to portray our leaders to a positive light.

I hope we get another hung parliament to teach the barstards a lesson that if they want to play the man and not the ball we will elect neither of them again.

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #159 - Jul 29^th, 2013 at 8:49pm

Verge wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 8:27pm:

The job of an opposition is to hold the govermemt to account, represent their constituents and to provide a viable alternative.

It is not to dismantle a sitting government with sleaze and innuendo, nor miss represent the true position of the economy.

How many times did they attempt to suspend standing orders?

Abbots junk yard dog routine has gone on long enough and has done nothing to portray our leaders to a positive light.

I hope we get another hung parliament to teach the barstards a lesson that if they want to play the man and not the ball we will elect neither of them again.

Be an interesting scenario if we had a House full of Independents...

Actually 'scarey' is more the word.

Wonder if we could start a "Neither Liberal, Nor Labor Party"?

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #160 - Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:00pm

Verge wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 8:27pm:

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I hope we get another hung parliament to teach the barstards a lesson that if they want to play the man and not the ball we will elect neither of them again.

Agreed; another hung parliament is the most just outcome. The question is, will they ever learn?

By electing Abbott as leader, the Liberals have shown that they've learned nothing from their time in opposition. Labor, I think, suffered from Gillard's success in negotiating government.

Maybe political parties should be banned.

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Lobo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7407 Sydney Gender:	Re: Why would anyone support Thommo? Reply #162 - Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:15pm muso wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:02pm: Lobo wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 8:49pm: Wonder if we could start a "Neither Liberal, Nor Labor Party"? Please Explain The NLNL Party. Would pick up all those disenchanted voters from both sides. Could be a winner...
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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #163 - Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:32pm

Lobo wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:15pm:

muso wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:02pm:

Lobo wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 8:49pm:

Wonder if we could start a "Neither Liberal, Nor Labor Party"?

Wink

Please Explain Grin

The NLNL Party.

Would pick up all those disenchanted voters from both sides.

Could be a winner...

who would you preference?

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Re: Why would anyone support Thommo?
Reply #164 - Jul 29^th, 2013 at 9:40pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 7:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 5:55pm:

cods wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 5:50pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 29^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 8:03pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 28^th, 2013 at 7:51pm:

There were people on here happy that Thomson would get away with it and stay in parliament just to stop Tony Abbott winning a no confidence vote.

There seems some very light morality these days.

The only reason that Thomson was perused so relentlessly was for that same vote. Williamson was not perused with the same vigour and neither was Jackson etc. Whether Thomson is guilty or not the exercise has been a political witch hunt from the beginning.

Had he been out in the community there would have been no real fuss at all, that is a fact while it may reflect poorly on the community it is still true.

just to stop Tony Abbott

Very important for Australia to stop the TAbbott danger.

yeah... bugger that whole democracy thing!

I was just thinking longy if the libs were in govt and mid stream they changed the leader so everyone had a new PM who was busy running round changing things and doing god only knows what in haste>??? without any mandate whatever..

do you think our friends from the left would be screaming by now for an election?

or would that not be democracy labor style

You don't remember when Howard promised to hand over the Costello mid term? Think it would have been a sensible change? They should have done it and no problem from me at all.

I would have liked to see how he would have been in the top job.

I liked Costello too but howard's position was that if he was unwilling to fight for the job then he didn't have what it took to survive in it. and given that as soon as the Libs lost govt he turned around a quit pretty much proves the assertion. The job of leader was his on a plate and he knocked it back. good chance he would be PM now instead of Rudd and looking for his second term.

howard's position was that if he was unwilling to fight for the job then he didn't have what it took to survive in it

What a load of rubbish - Howard power hungry position was that if he could get and then keep the job then his word meant very little.

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