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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Retired Navy bod says boats can be returned Reply #45 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:22pm I'm almost afraid to ask skippy, but what is a conga line? It seems to figure large in your thought processes.
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Re: Retired Navy bod says boats can be returned
Reply #46 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:26pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 12:53pm:

Dale Ftard wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 11:59am:

Why are leftards such little poofters about sending a boat full of of dole bludgers back to where they came from. It's not fking rocket science. The world is not powered by handwringing and crocodile tears Roll Eyes

Oh, goody, another angry, cliche ridden, name calling rightard. Just what this forum needs.

NOT!!

There are already more than enough ignorant, foul-mouthed, meat-headed righties here.

We don't need more.

It's gotten to the stage where even the moderate right are copping the abuse from these
retards.

They should hang their heads in shame.

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Dale Ftard Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136 Gender:	Re: Retired Navy bod says boats can be returned Reply #47 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:26pm We can load you up on the first boat that get turned around when Tony is PM. It will save the country your dole payment and raise the collective intelligence of the left at the same time
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Re: Retired Navy bod says boats can be returned
Reply #48 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:29pm

Dale Ftard wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:26pm:

We can load you up on the first boat that get turned around when Tony is PM.

It will save the country your dole payment and raise the collective intelligence of the left at the same time

If that's the best you can come up with, best smack off now.

I was going to add 'while you're ahead', but you're not.

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Reply #49 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:35pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 11:19am:

ian wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 11:02am:

you made the claim sunshine. Now support it.

no you did... i refuted you...

What a maroon, you cant even remember what you posted, next time type with both hands and stop dribbling on the keyboard.

Grendel wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 10:39am:

Well that's wrong most get scuttled by our Navy and some even make it to mainland Australia... hardly any we know of sink unaided.

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Reply #50 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:38pm

Dale Ftard wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:26pm:

We can load you up on the first boat that get turned around when Tony is PM.

It will save the country your dole payment and raise the collective intelligence of the left at the same time

I have to laugh, Abbotts popularity is dropping by a point a day, soon its going to be as low as your IQ. Hes never going to win with a 20 percent preferred rating.

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Reply #51 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 4:24pm

ian wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:38pm:

Dale Ftard wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:26pm:

We can load you up on the first boat that get turned around when Tony is PM.

It will save the country your dole payment and raise the collective intelligence of the left at the same time

I have to laugh, Abbotts popularity is dropping by a point a day, soon its going to be as low as your IQ. Hes never going to win with a 20 percent preferred rating.

hate to tell you Ian but the PPM does not equal the Party that wins the election you'd do better to look at 2pp, but even that is unreliable.

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Reply #52 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 4:45pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 4:24pm:

ian wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:38pm:

Dale Ftard wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:26pm:

We can load you up on the first boat that get turned around when Tony is PM.

It will save the country your dole payment and raise the collective intelligence of the left at the same time

I have to laugh, Abbotts popularity is dropping by a point a day, soon its going to be as low as your IQ. Hes never going to win with a 20 percent preferred rating.

hate to tell you Ian but the PPM does not equal the Party that wins the election you'd do better to look at 2pp, but even that is unreliable.

Yea, LOL. The TPP is GROWING TWO points a day in LABORS FAVOUR. Grin

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Socrates Gold Member Offline A Dog With A Bone Posts: 583 Gender:	Re: Retired Navy bod says boats can be returned Reply #53 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 4:48pm bogarde73 wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:22pm: I'm almost afraid to ask skippy, but what is a conga line? It seems to figure large in your thought processes. Skippy....thought process?..... Sorry couldn't resist.....
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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Retired Navy bod says boats can be returned Reply #54 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 4:54pm The blame for deaths of refugees rests squarely with the detention regimes and the efforts to undermine human security and social justice...society bears the burden and presumption of guilt...
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Re: Retired Navy bod says boats can be returned
Reply #55 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 5:09pm

ian wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 10:33am:

The mans an idiot. these boats barely make it out of Java they are so rickety. All that will happen is they will start scutting their boats.

The Navy doesn't promote people to Vice Admiral for being an idiot.
Wake up.
The smugglers boats are no different to the ones in 2002-2005.
When they start scuttling their boats, people will drown and the smugglers will be killing off their business.
A few are scuttled, a few are returned, and then they stop.
Just like last time.

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Reply #56 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:15pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 5:09pm:

ian wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 10:33am:

The mans an idiot. these boats barely make it out of Java they are so rickety. All that will happen is they will start scutting their boats.

The Navy doesn't promote people to Vice Admiral for being an idiot.
Wake up.
The smugglers boats are no different to the ones in 2002-2005.
When they start scuttling their boats, people will drown and the smugglers will be killing off their business.
A few are scuttled, a few are returned, and then they stop.
Just like last time.

hes not an Admiral, hes a retired Admiral, which means basically he was good at being a top paper shuffler. despite which we have no way of knowing what his agenda is in making these remarks. And yes, the boats are different to the ones in 2002. The people smugglers have become much better at wringing the last dollar out of their targets by buyin the oldest, cheapest most rickety boats they can find. Also not sure if you noticed this, being the observational mastermind that you are but people are already drowning. and others are still queing up to make the journey.

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Reply #57 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:48pm

ian wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:15pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 5:09pm:

ian wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 10:33am:

The mans an idiot. these boats barely make it out of Java they are so rickety. All that will happen is they will start scutting their boats.

The Navy doesn't promote people to Vice Admiral for being an idiot.
Wake up.
The smugglers boats are no different to the ones in 2002-2005.
When they start scuttling their boats, people will drown and the smugglers will be killing off their business.
A few are scuttled, a few are returned, and then they stop.
Just like last time.

hes not an Admiral, hes a retired Admiral, which means basically he was good at being a top paper shuffler. despite which we have no way of knowing what his agenda is in making these remarks. And yes, the boats are different to the ones in 2002. The people smugglers have become much better at wringing the last dollar out of their targets by buyin the oldest, cheapest most rickety boats they can find. Also not sure if you noticed this, being the observational mastermind that you are but people are already drowning. and others are still queing up to make the journey.

You purport to know a lot about the nitty gritty of the people smugglers operations Ian.
Should we inform the AFP about you or are you talking out of the top of your head. Roll Eyes

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Reply #58 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:48pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 1:46pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 1:15pm:

And you welcome it don't you pansi. Along with the rest of your Socialist Alliance, society-destroying friends. You want nothing more than to pull down everything that is or was good about Australia and replace it with what? Some drug-induced notion of nirvana?

I would much prefer to see people living safely in their own country, but that's not to be, partly due to the interference of the west, religious differences and greed inc.

What to do?

Make their countries better so they don't want to leave

Make our country worse so they don't want to come here

or

Make our country better with refugees and asylum seekers as part of the community

because they will come, one way or another, despite the bleating by the right.

You can't have it both ways, you praise the government that initiates the war, but you can't handle the consequences.

Time and time again,

Yugoslavia, Bosnia, Croatian and Serbian refugees before the war....next to none

Vietnamese refugees before the war....zero

Iraqi refugees before the war....zero

Afghanistan refugees before the war...zero

Prepare for the Syrians..........

See a pattern?

tell us again why the west or even just Oz are to blame in any way for Syria or Yugoslavia? and the vietnamese started are war aided by the communist NORTH. Afghan refugees have been coming for decades. It wasnt exactly paradise before 1980 you know.

you really are quite the fool.

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Reply #59 - Jul 6^th, 2013 at 7:50pm

skippy. wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 2:05pm:

salad in wrote on Jul 6^th, 2013 at 10:05am:

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Military men say turning back boats can work

Retired Vice Admiral Chris Ritchie, who was Chief of Navy between 2002 and 2005, says turning back the boats can work - despite what so many journalists of the Left seem to think:

A turn-back operation as it was practised in 2001 is a hazardous, risky task because of the nature of the people that you’re dealing with. They’re people who are intent on getting to Australia and you’re trying to turn them back from Australia.

But nevertheless it’s a legitimate Navy operation. It’s something that Navy’s have done over centuries. And in that sense, if the government gives a direction to do it, then Navy people will do it and they’ll do it well.

The journalist wonders why just four were turned back:

TONY EASTLEY: Why did the practice stop when it did?

CHIRS RITCHIE: No more boats came.

TONY EASTLEY: None at all?

CHIRS RITCHIE: None at all. None at all.

TONY EASTLEY: If that same model of returning boats was to be reinstituted today, do you think it would still work?

CHIRS RITCHIE: If the conditions were replicated, it could still work.

Australia’s most recent defence attaché to Jakarta agrees and dismisses Kevin Rudd’s absurd warnings of Tony Abbott’s policy risking war:

Retired Brigadier Gary Hogan, who finished his three-year posting in Jakarta last year, says it is not realistic to talk about risking conflict with our northern neighbour.

“I think the strength of our strategic partnership would make that an unlikely scenario,” he said…

“I do think it’s possible for us to push back boats or to intercept boats and to lead them back to their source,” he told ABC News 24.

“We can’t do it on our own, we must do it with the Indonesians and I think we can do it with the Indonesians.

“I think it’s possible for us to get that level of cooperation with the Indonesian navy, in fact we already have that level of cooperation with the navy in the eastern end of the Indonesian archipelago.”

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/milit...

Chris Ritchie isn't a casual contributor to blogs; he's a retired vice admiral with hands-on experience. We didn't go to war over the issue of turning boats back previously so Indonesia can't now say such a policy is unacceptable.

LOL the conga line think some retired sailor knows more about international law than law experts. No wonder the conga line are so delusional. Roll Eyes

and admiral is a mere 'sailor'?? sometimes you outdo yourself with the depth of your stupidity. he was the HEAD of the navy. Id say he has an understanding of naval international law that exceeds most if not all.

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