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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #90 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 3:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 2:59pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 2:56pm:

If you are looking at firearm death the states is way behind many nations. Africa and the ratbag muslim countries would take the prize.

Well, Africa isn't a country.

However, South Africa's rate is double that of the USA.

The rate in Honduras is three times more than South Africa.

(Americans are still gun nuts, though)

I didn't say Africa was a country. You can't put the numerous countries who's rule of law is a gun ahead of the states for gun crime. There's no proper stats to compare anyway. I'm sure Syria and Afghanistan don't keep stats.

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Reply #92 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 3:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 3:17pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 3:06pm:

You can't put the numerous countries who's rule of law is a gun ahead of the states for gun crime.

Doesn't take anything away from the fact that Americans are gun nuts.

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I can't argue there.

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Panther Gold Member Offline My Heart beats True for the Red White & Blue... Posts: 11857 Gender:	Re: Disarming USA Reply #93 - Feb 17^th, 2015 at 9:39am Who in their wildest dreams thinks that there is a force on earth that can disarm all the American Citizens of their personal weapons, much less disarm the USA? JFYI ......... It has been suggested that American Citizens have a larger arsenal than the US Federal Government does.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 46284	Re: Disarming USA Reply #94 - Feb 17^th, 2015 at 8:31pm Possibly true, DrymriderX but then, what does it matter? Americans, despite their worst fears actually control their own government. It is a reflection of their society I fear.
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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #95 - Feb 17^th, 2015 at 9:08pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 4:27pm:

Jeff from Tennessee wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 4:15pm:

I am not familiar with your cadet programs but in the usa our cadet programs (ROTC) have only honor guard type training where guns are concerned. Their are some explorer type programs that do weapons training but they are more law enforcement based. I was thinking more of a basic firearms safety class for the kids. More like sex ed, not boot camp.

Well my brother was in the Cadets in high school, and they did do range days. As I recall, there were even rifles stored in the cadet's store room in the school ( mind you, this was 30+ years ago, so it might be very different now)

Been there, done that. My high school was the same - cadets with real guns and live-fire training. Bivouacs and ANZAC days.

Mind you, this was during the tail-end of Vietnam and the draft.

And no-one really wanted to go there - we'd already got the news.

Missed out on that experience by

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #96 - Feb 17^th, 2015 at 9:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 8:31pm:

Possibly true, DrymriderX but then, what does it matter? Americans, despite their worst fears actually control their own government. It is a reflection of their society I fear. Roll Eyes

Better than the government controlling the people. When the people have the upper hand, somehow the government remains the servant of the people, & that's the way it's meant to be.

100+ million gun owners ensures no invasion, & government that stays in line.

The people tell government to jump, the government asks ..... how high??

There are some that say if the government attempted to disarm the people, the people couldn't compete with the arms of the police force & the army.

Well, it has been determined that over 70% of both law enforcement & the armed services would side with the people, simply because they are the people, against any totalitarian/tyrannical government.

The people already have military grade weaponry, & the former law enforcement & military will bring whatever weaponry they have in their possession.

American Gun Owners are already astute in the art of gorilla warfare.

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #97 - Feb 18^th, 2015 at 1:57pm

Panther wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 9:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 8:31pm:

Possibly true, DrymriderX but then, what does it matter? Americans, despite their worst fears actually control their own government. It is a reflection of their society I fear. Roll Eyes

Better than the government controlling the people. When the people have the upper hand, somehow the government remains the servant of the people, & that's the way it's meant to be.

So, we have an American People, controlling their government, which is made up of American people, who are reflecting the society from which they are drawn? So, what are the Americans so afraid of DrymriderX? So fearful that they feel they must arm themselves against it to the point where they dress like the soldiers they are going to fight against and act like them? I've been there, I've seen the US militias running up and down hill and dale and I'm still unable to figure out what they're guarding against that can't be blatted with one of the Nukes they control!?! Cheesy

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MumboJumbo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1474 Gender:	Re: Disarming USA Reply #98 - Feb 18^th, 2015 at 8:33pm Panther wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 9:42pm: American Gun Owners are already astute in the art of gorilla warfare.
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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #99 - Feb 19^th, 2015 at 9:04am

|dev|null wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 1:57pm:

Panther wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 9:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 8:31pm:

Possibly true, DrymriderX but then, what does it matter? Americans, despite their worst fears actually control their own government. It is a reflection of their society I fear. Roll Eyes

Better than the government controlling the people. When the people have the upper hand, somehow the government remains the servant of the people, & that's the way it's meant to be.

So, we have an American People, controlling their government.........So, what are the Americans so afraid of DrymriderX?

An American once said that ".... there is nothing to fear but fear itself......"

Their having arms, & being free to bear them.....without having a "need", other than the need to be adequately prepared for anything that might come their way.

And if nothing comes their way, they can rest assuredly in the knowledge that they are prepared nonetheless.

I think the only "fear" is the fear that you may have that Americans have this inalienable Right & Freedom, that you could have, but don't want, which is your personal right.

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Reply #100 - Feb 19^th, 2015 at 3:55pm

Still doesn't convince me. Americans controlling the American government which in turn controls all those nuclear weapons they have... Makes me wonder if we should be fearing this schizophrenic American society which believes the American government is going to blow all them up, despite them controlling it. Reminds me of your viewpoint actually... Grin

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #101 - Feb 19^th, 2015 at 9:59pm

|dev|null wrote on Feb 19^th, 2015 at 3:55pm:

......Makes me wonder if we should be fearing this schizophrenic American society which believes the American government is going to blow all them up, despite them controlling it.

Don't be silly. Americans stopped being concerned about Nuclear weapons when the wall came down & the Soviet Union dissolved.

Even with all the hoopla in the Ukraine, Americans were more focused on illegals coming across the border with Islamists mixed in.

That issue is more explosive than your Nuclear straw man.

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Reply #102 - Feb 20^th, 2015 at 5:30am

Lionel Edriess wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 9:08pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 4:27pm:

Jeff from Tennessee wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 4:15pm:

I am not familiar with your cadet programs but in the usa our cadet programs (ROTC) have only honor guard type training where guns are concerned. Their are some explorer type programs that do weapons training but they are more law enforcement based. I was thinking more of a basic firearms safety class for the kids. More like sex ed, not boot camp.

Well my brother was in the Cadets in high school, and they did do range days. As I recall, there were even rifles stored in the cadet's store room in the school ( mind you, this was 30+ years ago, so it might be very different now)

Been there, done that. My high school was the same - cadets with real guns and live-fire training. Bivouacs and ANZAC days.

Mind you, this was during the tail-end of Vietnam and the draft.

And no-one really wanted to go there - we'd already got the news.

Missed out on that experience by

THAT

much.

We had cadets at school until about 1977. We had a heap of .22 Lee Enfield/SMLE rifles, a few .303 SMLE, a couple of Bren guns and a couple of .22 cal pistols.

Had a go with the .22 a couple of times. Saw one of the Brens being used, but no real interest to join the cadets....

Everything was stored under one of the school buildings. Pretty lax security as we managed to pilfer enough spare parts to put together a functional .22.

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Reply #103 - Feb 20^th, 2015 at 2:47pm

Panther wrote on Feb 19^th, 2015 at 9:59pm:

|dev|null wrote on Feb 19^th, 2015 at 3:55pm:

......Makes me wonder if we should be fearing this schizophrenic American society which believes the American government is going to blow all them up, despite them controlling it.

Don't be silly. Americans stopped being concerned about Nuclear weapons when the wall came down & the Soviet Union dissolved.

Even with all the hoopla in the Ukraine, Americans were more focused on illegals coming across the border with Islamists mixed in.

That issue is more explosive than your Nuclear straw man.

Is it? According to who? You or the people I read on the interweb thingie? Mmm? Grin

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Reply #104 - Feb 20^th, 2015 at 8:55pm

|dev|null wrote on Feb 19^th, 2015 at 3:55pm:

Still doesn't convince me. Grin

Being an idiot of great thickness, no reasonable argument could EVER convince you, by definition.
You will always be on the side of dark, stupid and harmful forces in this world. Shoulder to shoulder with Brain, PB and the rest of the sinister, stumbling and gormless agents of evil. That is your inescapable function in life.

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