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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 46287	Re: Disarming USA Reply #855 - Sep 12^th, 2015 at 4:48pm I love you to, DreamRyderX. I've been arguing against lax gun laws since the 1980s and will continue until I am dead and buried. Get used to me 'cause I'm going no where...
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Panther Gold Member Offline My Heart beats True for the Red White & Blue... Posts: 11860 Gender:	Re: Disarming USA Reply #856 - Sep 12^th, 2015 at 6:24pm Brian Ross wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 4:48pm: I love you to, DreamRyderX...... Just do ask me to take a warm shower with ya, ya silly savage!
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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #857 - Sep 12^th, 2015 at 6:26pm

Myth -- "The only purpose of a handgun is to kill people."

Source: http://bit.ly/1XW6SMQ Quote:

This often repeated statement is patently untrue, but to those Americans whose only knowledge of firearms comes from the nightly violence on television, it might seem believable. When anti-gun researcher James Wright, then of the University of Massachusetts, studied all the available literature on firearms, he concluded: "Even the most casual and passing familiarity with this literature is therefore sufficient to believe the contention that handguns have `no legitimate sport or recreational use.' "

There are an estimated 65-70 million privately owned handguns in the United States that are used for hunting, target shooting, protection of families and businesses, and other legitimate and lawful purposes. By comparison, handguns were used in an estimated 13,200 homicides in 1992 --less than 0.02% (two hundredths of 1%) of the handguns in America. Many of these reported homicides (1,500-2,800) were self-defense or justifiable and, therefore, not criminal. That fact alone renders the myth about the "only purpose" of handguns absurd, for more than
99%

of all handguns are used for no criminal purpose.

By far the most commonly cited reason for owning a handgun is protection against criminals. At least one-half of handgun owners in America own handguns for protection and security. A handgun's function is one of insurance as well as defense. A handgun in the home is a contingency, based on the knowledge that if there ever comes a time when it is needed, no substitute will do. Certainly no violent intent is implied, any more than a purchaser of life insurance intends to die soon.

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #858 - Sep 12^th, 2015 at 6:46pm

Panther wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 6:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 4:48pm:

I love you to, DreamRyderX......

Just do ask me to take a warm shower with ya, ya silly savage! Grin

To misquote William Congreve
Quote:

hath charms to soothe a savage breast, To soften rocks, or bend a knotted oak.

You will eventually see the error of your ways... Roll Eyes

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #859 - Sep 12^th, 2015 at 7:26pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

Panther wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 6:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 4:48pm:

I love you to, DreamRyderX......

Just do ask me to take a warm shower with ya, ya silly savage! Grin

To misquote William Congreve
Quote:

hath charms to soothe a savage breast, To soften rocks, or bend a knotted oak.

You will eventually see the error of your ways... Roll Eyes

Out of profound respect, because of your affinity for my inevitable salvation,
you will probably be the very first to know. Please keep me up to date too.

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #860 - Sep 12^th, 2015 at 7:39pm

Panther wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 7:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 6:46pm:

Panther wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 6:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 12^th, 2015 at 4:48pm:

I love you to, DreamRyderX......

Just do ask me to take a warm shower with ya, ya silly savage! Grin

To misquote William Congreve
Quote:

hath charms to soothe a savage breast, To soften rocks, or bend a knotted oak.

You will eventually see the error of your ways... Roll Eyes

Out of profound respect, because of your affinity for my inevitable salvation, you will probably be the very first to know. Please keep me up to date too. Cheesy

Oh, I'm sure you'll realise when your salvation has arrived, DreamRyderX. Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 46287	Re: Disarming USA Reply #861 - Sep 16^th, 2015 at 9:28pm
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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #862 - Sep 16^th, 2015 at 10:05pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 9:28pm:

Typical of your response, Brian. Much ado about nothing. Grin

In other news, there's been a development in Western arms adornment that has drawn criticism from Muslim groups:

......................

" ... An arms maker in Florida is engraving Christian symbols on its assault rifles, in a marketing ploy denounced by a Muslim group as fomenting "hatred, division and violence".

The Crusader assault rifle is inscribed with the cross of the Knights Templar, a religious order that fought in the Crusades, and a psalm from the Bible — features that its maker, Spike's Tactical, says are intended to keep the weapons out of Muslim hands.

"We wanted to make sure we built a weapon that would never be able to be used by Muslim terrorists to kill innocent people or advance their radical agenda," company spokesman Ben Thomas said.

The Christian symbols would prevent the guns from being shipped to the Middle East, he said, claiming the rifles had been a hit with the company's customers.

"We sold out of rifles in the first 72 hours and there's a backlog of several weeks," he said, declining to say how many had sold.

The Florida branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations issued a statement decrying "this manufacturer's fancy new gun".

"This is just another shameful marketing ploy intended to profit from the promotion of hatred, division, and violence," it said.

Mr Thomas, asserting he was not a bigot, insisted: "If they think the word of Jesus Christ causes hatred, they don't understand Jesus Christ." .......

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-16/gun-maker-markets-christian-assault-rifles...

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Rather reminds one of the time the British Army was accused of greasing its ammunition with pork fat. Remember that, Brian?

In a world where Red Cross aid packages are rejected because of the symbolism involved, I see no reason why the weaponry of the West should not be so adorned, so as to deny that same weaponry to the 'faithful'.

If the Allies had not bombed the Shiite out of innocent German cities in WW2, they may have never had a future they currently enjoy under democracy.

We have the option of sewing every Islamic terrorist we kill into a pig skin and throwing it into the ocean. But that's both counter-productive and insensitive. Roll Eyes

So we have to play nice, now? Can't put Bible verses on our weaponry because it's offensive?

Grin

We're not even allowed to raise our voices, let alone own an 'offensive weapon'.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 46287	Re: Disarming USA Reply #863 - Sep 16^th, 2015 at 11:16pm Lionel Edriess wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 10:05pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 9:28pm: Typical of your response, Brian. Much ado about nothing. Works OK for me, Lionel.
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Lionel Edriess Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1932 Gender:	Re: Disarming USA Reply #864 - Sep 16^th, 2015 at 11:27pm Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 11:16pm: Lionel Edriess wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 10:05pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 9:28pm: Typical of your response, Brian. Much ado about nothing. Works OK for me, Lionel. My apologies! You must be on Win10.
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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #865 - Sep 17^th, 2015 at 12:05am

Lionel Edriess wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 11:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 11:16pm:

Lionel Edriess wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 10:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 9:28pm:

Typical of your response, Brian. Much ado about nothing. Grin

Works OK for me, Lionel. Roll Eyes

My apologies!

You must be on Win10.

Cool

No, I use Linux, the Prince of OSs. Wink

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Reply #866 - Sep 17^th, 2015 at 8:30am

Lionel Edriess wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 10:05pm:

In other news, there's been a development in Western arms adornment that has drawn criticism from Muslim groups:

......................

" ... An arms maker in Florida is engraving Christian symbols on its assault rifles, in a marketing ploy denounced by a Muslim group as fomenting "hatred, division and violence".

The Crusader assault rifle is inscribed with the cross of the Knights Templar, a religious order that fought in the Crusades, and a psalm from the Bible — features that its maker, Spike's Tactical, says are intended to keep the weapons out of Muslim hands.

"We wanted to make sure we built a weapon that would never be able to be used by Muslim terrorists to kill innocent people or advance their radical agenda," company spokesman Ben Thomas said.

The Christian symbols would prevent the guns from being shipped to the Middle East, he said, claiming the rifles had been a hit with the company's customers.

"We sold out of rifles in the first 72 hours and there's a backlog of several weeks," he said, declining to say how many had sold.

The Florida branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations issued a statement decrying "this manufacturer's fancy new gun".

"This is just another shameful marketing ploy intended to profit from the promotion of hatred, division, and violence," it said.

Mr Thomas, asserting he was not a bigot, insisted: "If they think the word of Jesus Christ causes hatred, they don't understand Jesus Christ." .......

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-16/gun-maker-markets-christian-assault-rifles...

...........................

Rather reminds one of the time the British Army was accused of greasing its ammunition with pork fat. Remember that, Brian?

In a world where Red Cross aid packages are rejected because of the symbolism involved, I see no reason why the weaponry of the West should not be so adorned, so as to deny that same weaponry to the 'faithful'.

If the Allies had not bombed the Shiite out of innocent German cities in WW2, they may have never had a future they currently enjoy under democracy.

We have the option of sewing every Islamic terrorist we kill into a pig skin and throwing it into the ocean. But that's both counter-productive and insensitive. Roll Eyes

So we have to play nice, now? Can't put Bible verses on our weaponry because it's offensive?

Grin

We're not even allowed to raise our voices, let alone own an 'offensive weapon'.

Gotta love it!!!!!! Only in America, Land of the Free ... Home of the Brave!!

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #867 - Sep 17^th, 2015 at 12:17pm

Lionel Edriess wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 10:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16^th, 2015 at 9:28pm:

Typical of your response, Brian. Much ado about nothing. Grin

In other news, there's been a development in Western arms adornment that has drawn criticism from Muslim groups:

......................

" ... An arms maker in Florida is engraving Christian symbols on its assault rifles, in a marketing ploy denounced by a Muslim group as fomenting "hatred, division and violence".

The Crusader assault rifle is inscribed with the cross of the Knights Templar, a religious order that fought in the Crusades, and a psalm from the Bible — features that its maker, Spike's Tactical, says are intended to keep the weapons out of Muslim hands.

"We wanted to make sure we built a weapon that would never be able to be used by Muslim terrorists to kill innocent people or advance their radical agenda," company spokesman Ben Thomas said.

The Christian symbols would prevent the guns from being shipped to the Middle East, he said, claiming the rifles had been a hit with the company's customers.

"We sold out of rifles in the first 72 hours and there's a backlog of several weeks," he said, declining to say how many had sold.

The Florida branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations issued a statement decrying "this manufacturer's fancy new gun".

"This is just another shameful marketing ploy intended to profit from the promotion of hatred, division, and violence," it said.

Mr Thomas, asserting he was not a bigot, insisted: "If they think the word of Jesus Christ causes hatred, they don't understand Jesus Christ." .......

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-16/gun-maker-markets-christian-assault-rifles...

...........................

Rather reminds one of the time the British Army was accused of greasing its ammunition with pork fat. Remember that, Brian?

In a world where Red Cross aid packages are rejected because of the symbolism involved, I see no reason why the weaponry of the West should not be so adorned, so as to deny that same weaponry to the 'faithful'.

If the Allies had not bombed the Shiite out of innocent German cities in WW2, they may have never had a future they currently enjoy under democracy.

We have the option of sewing every Islamic terrorist we kill into a pig skin and throwing it into the ocean. But that's both counter-productive and insensitive. Roll Eyes

So we have to play nice, now? Can't put Bible verses on our weaponry because it's offensive?

Grin

We're not even allowed to raise our voices, let alone own an 'offensive weapon'.

That's great marketing.

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Disarming USA....The Left's Impossible Dream!
Reply #868 - Sep 30^th, 2015 at 7:21pm

Woman Calls 911, Waits for Police, Then Takes Personal Responsibility For Her Own Defense.

Source: BREITBART Quote:

On September 9 Breitbart News reported that a female Dayton, Ohio homeowner who had been targeted for crime multiple times called 911 to report an alleged invader, then shot and killed the suspect herself.

News reports have since revealed that the police response time for that 911 call was over an hour long.

For example, ABC 22 ran a story titled, “Why did it take over an hour to respond to a home invasion call?” In it, they report that the female homeowner called 911 only to be told “to keep an eye out for the officer and call them back if [she heard] anything else.”

An hour later the officer had not arrived, but the suspect had made it inside the home and was allegedly coming toward the woman, who shot and fatally wounded him........continued

If she hadn't provided for her own protection it would probably have been her in the lead obituary.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 46287	Re: Disarming USA Reply #869 - Sep 30^th, 2015 at 7:27pm Why don't you quote the whole 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution, DreamRyderX? Does it embarrass you?
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